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The Straight Story

(48,121 posts)
Mon Mar 18, 2013, 10:03 PM Mar 2013

Driver's Beer Can't Show Open Container Offense (open container ok as long as empty)

Driver's Beer Can't Show Open Container Offense

WASHINGTON (CN) - Police officers who saw an open beer can in a car cup holder lacked probable cause to initiate a search, a federal judge ruled.

The government had sought reconsideration after U.S. District Judge Richard Roberts previously determined that police improperly conducted a warrantless search of Eric Hemingway's car - violating the Fourth Amendment - and that the subsequent arrest of Hemingway and seizure of physical evidence from his vehicle were fruits of that illegal search.

Roberts refused to credit claims that police had probable cause to arrest Hemingway for possession of an open container of alcohol before the search.

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Roberts added: "An open container in a car is not contraband unless it contains alcohol. Here, the officer could not see in the container, he did not testify that the driver or passenger said that it contained alcohol, and his testimony about smelling alcohol before the arrest was discredited. Suspicion ... is not enough to establish probable cause."

http://www.courthousenews.com/2013/03/18/55804.htm

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Driver's Beer Can't Show Open Container Offense (open container ok as long as empty) (Original Post) The Straight Story Mar 2013 OP
Uh cops here drink this quick... Kalidurga Mar 2013 #1
Interesting decision in this case. iemitsu Mar 2013 #2
Lots of empty beer cans/bottles in cars here in MI. longship Mar 2013 #3

iemitsu

(3,888 posts)
2. Interesting decision in this case.
Mon Mar 18, 2013, 10:20 PM
Mar 2013

Young Hemmingway must have had some good lawyer representing him. Or some other ace up his sleeve.
What happened to "assumption of guilt until proven innocent" as is applied so typically in Police State America?

longship

(40,416 posts)
3. Lots of empty beer cans/bottles in cars here in MI.
Mon Mar 18, 2013, 11:06 PM
Mar 2013

They're 10 cent deposit each, redeemable anywhere.

Unfortunately, we no longer have beer cans on our roads and highways. (or soda pop cans.) just lots of wine and booze bottles.

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