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Sorry no video. It never happened. Why did it never happen??
Does it have something about the cops defending the 1%'ers, the Koch brothers, and the incestuous relationship between Dick Armey's army of Dicks and the Koch Brothers???
Feel free to add your thoughts.
Confusious
(8,317 posts)in all it's majesty, keeps the rich and poor alike from sleeping under the bridge.
saras
(6,670 posts)Confusious
(8,317 posts)The rich do not sleep under bridges.
The left does not wave guns at the president.
Think about it a little more.
Raine
(30,540 posts)saras
(6,670 posts)Are you seriously suggesting that if as many leftists with guns showed up at an anticorporate rally as showed up to big right-wing rallies that the police would treat them with as much leniency as they do the right?
I'd LOVE to see that. Ten thousand armed leftists, and no arrests.
ZombieHorde
(29,047 posts)You mean like the many videos of them harassing & beating counter-protesters?
ZombieHorde
(29,047 posts)sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)They were so threatening and disruptive that in the end, even Republican Members of Congress felt safer by cancelling them. Dems were shouted down and attacked verbally every time they held a rally and in the end, they stopped holding them. Of course the police COULD have controlled those situations, but for some reason, they did not.
ZombieHorde
(29,047 posts)sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)They were not preventing Congressmen from speaking, they were not spitting on Congressmen, so what laws did they break?
ZombieHorde
(29,047 posts)I know camping was mentioned, but I am not sure if that was a part of the trespassing charges, or if that was against specific, local laws.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)never should have been arrested in the first place. All they were doing was exercising their 1st Amendment rights, most of them were NOT occupiers, they came to rallies to join the Occupiers as is their right to do.
What did Scott Olsen or Kayvan Sahbegi do to end up in the hospital, nearly killed, after surviving Iraq, thinking they had earned the right to stand with protesters, peacefully protesting? Why were they nearly killed by the police? What exactly was their crime? Neither of them were screaming at Policitians, as the Teabaggers were. Can you explain that please?
ZombieHorde
(29,047 posts)Changing the subject, and not answering questions are my clues here.
Putting down the police is completely fine with me. I do it from time to time here on DU, but it is a different subject all together.
Enjoy your outrage, and fuck the police.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)them to nearly lose their lives at the hands of the police, one of them taken to jail, seriously injured, refused medical care for 18 hours before finally getting to the hospital?
I am addressing the OP. Why were these OWS protesters arrested and brutalized, while Teabaggers who were far more aggressive, were never bothered by the police?
This is what the OP is about. I think it is you who is avoiding it. People have pointed out incidents of violence, disturbing the peace, (shouting down US Congressmembers and acting in such a threatening way that members of Congress had to cancel their Town Hall Meetings). In one incident, Rep Lewis was spat upon by a teabagger, but still no arrests.
Why do you think the Teabaggers were treated so differently considering all of this?
ZombieHorde
(29,047 posts)you would quit changing the subject and engage in a little honest back and forth. I sincerely don't think your questions are founded on honest inquiry. I'm sure you already know Rep. Lewis has to press to charges in order for the police to act on that incident. The police were sweeping in on the OWS folks because they were protesting without a permit, obstructing traffic, and trespassing. Police brutality is nothing new; it's has been happening for generations. New technology was simply brought it out into the light.
The incidents pointed out to me either haven't been by tea baggers, or were so vague, they cannot be commented on in any intelligent way.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)until that person files a complaint before grabbing the teabagger, but if a US Veteran is just walking home from an OWS protest on the street, they can attack and beat him nearly to death, then arrest him and throw him in jail.
I think you've answered the question raised in the OP.
Armed teabaggers can abuse members of Congress, on the street, at Town Hall meetings to the point of members of Congress having to shut down those meetings, and no arrests.
Occupiers just have to walk along the street on their way home and they can be beaten and jailed.
That is the point of the OP. You have not explained why this is the case. But you don't have to, I think we all know.
Koch brothers have lots of money which they are willing to share with elected officials who help them get what they want.
ZombieHorde
(29,047 posts)sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)And if they were not there, why not? I've seen the footage, google it. Unless you do not really want to know what is going on, which is your choice. It was a despicable act and there was video of it. So the police could have arrested the perp had they wanted to. Had it been an Occupier spitting on say, Daryl Issa, you can be sure they would have found him, wouldn't they?
ZombieHorde
(29,047 posts)Gross, but not exactly assault.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)from a protest.
So again, you have not explained why an Iraq Veteran walking home from a protest was attacked, beaten nearly to death, arrested and jailed and denied treatment for 18 hours. Why did this happen to him, while the teabagger spitting at a Congressman was ignored by the cops?
Kayvan Sahbegi was a local businessman, well respected in the community, yet, the only reason possible for the criminal attack on him by the police was that he had been at an OWS protest.
It appears you cannot explain the different treatment of these two men, which I did not think you could.
Never mind, we KNOW the reasons for it, it is not that hard to figure out.
ZombieHorde
(29,047 posts)the OWS protestors, who were breaking the law, and the police were given a green light to arrest OWS protestors, then that would explain it.
The brutality is fairly normal, and the reason so many people absolutely hate police officers.
The man you wish was arrested did nothing illegal, and wasn't around others doing illegal activities.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)for the Teabaggers now matter what they do.
OWS was NOT breaking laws. They were exercising their 1st Amendment rights. Kavan Sahbegi was an Iraq Vet who was present at the protests, all very peaceful that day, with little police presence for the entire day, as Mayor Quan was so embarrassed by the behavior of the OPD just days earlier when they nearly killed another Iraq War vet who was doing nothing illegal, merely standing on the street, that she kept the police away from the days activities and the over 100,,000 peaceful protesters.
Without the presence of the OPD that day's events resulted in no incidents. It is the police who are violent as we have seen over and over again. But later in the evening, as soon as they showed up, once again using violence against peaceful people like Kayvan Sahbegi, people were harmed. He was at an incident free, peaceful protest and was walking home when he was brutally attacked by the OPD.
You can stop trying to excuse all of this. As I said, we all know why American citizens are being illegally attacked by the bought and paid for Civil PDs, while the Koch Bros army, the Teapartiers, can do whatever they want, and are perfectly safe from the very same PDs.
It's not a mystery at all.
HughBeaumont
(24,461 posts)http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1828529
From 2007 - the Gathering of the Eagles members (freepers) are beating up a Gold Star dad in broad daylight.
Five guys on one, what real men.
Oh, and where were DCs finest?
Yeah, as you can see by the other photos, yukking it up with the highlighted assailants.
"I mean, sheeeit, just lookit whut that wetback did t'us . . . cat scratched our arms!! HE'S the crim'nul!!~`!!"
Only a little scuffle, nothing to see here . . . .
ZombieHorde
(29,047 posts)HughBeaumont
(24,461 posts)Still not touched or even inconvenienced by the police despite their attacks being captured on film.
And the OP didn't specifiy Bagger RALLIES, he singled out the individual BAGGERS, period, and their friends in the Police department who turn a blind eye to their attacks.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)remember a woman having her head stomped on or US Congressmen having to cancel their Town Hall meetings because of the threats and violence and disruptions caused by the Teapartiers who would not even allow them to speak? Not to mention they were armed.
People have very short memories. Airc, we kept asking were were the Police as we knew for sure that if a democrat spat on a US Congressman all hell would break lose. Or if a Dem had stood near where Bush about to speak, armed to the teeth, how long would he have been there? And if Dems had caused so much disruption at a Town Hall rally held by a politician that he was in fear of his life, what do you think would have happened?
Democrats were arrested for wearing tee shirts that supported Obama to Bush rallies. Teapartiers were NOT arrested for showing up with guns to Obama rallies.
ZombieHorde
(29,047 posts)Was it at a Tea Bagger rally? I remember it being at a politician's rally.
Being armed is generally legal.
For your other points, I would have to examine specifics to address whether or not they fit my claim.