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(8,155 posts) Sun Mar 24, 2013, 10:09 PM Mar 2013

West Point Meatballs Stolen; Woman Charged

http://www.cnn.com/2013/03/24/us/new-york-meatball-theft/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

New York (CNN) -- A housekeeper at the U.S. Military Academy could face up to two years in jail if convicted of trying to steal a bag of frozen meatballs.

Estelle Casimir pleaded not guilty in U.S. District Court in White Plains, New York, this month, according to her attorney.

"She is very upset," said Michael Ferraro. "We've pleaded not guilty, definitely."

Casimir has been charged with stealing from the mess hall at the famed military academy in West Point, New York, on January 30. She faces two counts of misdemeanor crimes for stealing property and possessing stolen property.

Each count carries a possible penalty of up to one year in jail and a $1,000 fine.

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West Point Meatballs Stolen; Woman Charged (Original Post) Gravitycollapse Mar 2013 OP

Wouldn't firing her have been enough? UnrepentantLiberal Mar 2013 #1

Making an example of her? Downwinder Mar 2013 #4

We seem to be entering a period of overkill using the law Warpy Mar 2013 #2

Entering? Where have you been for the last 20 years? Egalitarian Thug Mar 2013 #14

“Are there no prisons? Are there no workhouses?” bluedigger Mar 2013 #3

"...two counts of misdemeanor crimes for stealing property and possessing stolen property" 2ndAmForComputers Mar 2013 #5

sell or eat them JVS Mar 2013 #7

...instantly. 2ndAmForComputers Mar 2013 #8

Possession of stolen property is usually reserved for those who receive it from someone else. Gravitycollapse Mar 2013 #9

This is a corporate messhall, right? pscot Mar 2013 #6

probably. i wonder how that plays into it. HiPointDem Mar 2013 #17

Jail for an employee stealing food? Who does the Army think they are, Walmart? leveymg Mar 2013 #10

Thank God her name doesn't sound Italian Ter Mar 2013 #11

'what are you in here for'? markiv Mar 2013 #12

"I ripped off some balls... pinboy3niner Mar 2013 #13

lol nt markiv Mar 2013 #15

Alice's Restaurant - proceed to group W Mnpaul Mar 2013 #16

UnrepentantLiberal

(11,700 posts)

1. Wouldn't firing her have been enough?

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Sun Mar 24, 2013, 10:18 PM

Mar 2013

Downwinder

(12,869 posts)

4. Making an example of her?

Reply to UnrepentantLiberal (Reply #1)

Sun Mar 24, 2013, 10:32 PM

Mar 2013

To send a message to Lockheed Martin?

Warpy

(111,275 posts)

2. We seem to be entering a period of overkill using the law

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Sun Mar 24, 2013, 10:28 PM

Mar 2013

especially directed at people who work low wage jobs.

A more sensible thing to do would be to fire her.

I don't know whose bright idea it was to clog the courts with a bullshit minor theft like this one.

Egalitarian Thug

(12,448 posts)

14. Entering? Where have you been for the last 20 years?

Reply to Warpy (Reply #2)

Sun Mar 24, 2013, 11:42 PM

Mar 2013

Oh I get it, you were using a geological time frame.

bluedigger

(17,086 posts)

3. “Are there no prisons? Are there no workhouses?”

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Sun Mar 24, 2013, 10:29 PM

Mar 2013

Are there no dangers to society that the DA could pursue?

2ndAmForComputers

(3,527 posts)

5. "...two counts of misdemeanor crimes for stealing property and possessing stolen property"

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Sun Mar 24, 2013, 10:36 PM

Mar 2013

Uh...

Is it even physically possible to commit the first and not commit the second?

JVS

(61,935 posts)

7. sell or eat them

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Sun Mar 24, 2013, 10:42 PM

Mar 2013

2ndAmForComputers

(3,527 posts)

8. ...instantly.

Reply to JVS (Reply #7)

Sun Mar 24, 2013, 10:49 PM

Mar 2013

Gravitycollapse

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9. Possession of stolen property is usually reserved for those who receive it from someone else.

Reply to 2ndAmForComputers (Reply #8)

Sun Mar 24, 2013, 10:52 PM

Mar 2013

Knowingly.

It sounds like they are just trying to pile on charges.

pscot

(21,024 posts)

6. This is a corporate messhall, right?

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Sun Mar 24, 2013, 10:41 PM

Mar 2013

As opposed to an actual Army mess. We have a catered military nowdays.

HiPointDem

(20,729 posts)

17. probably. i wonder how that plays into it.

Reply to pscot (Reply #6)

Mon Mar 25, 2013, 01:51 AM

Mar 2013

leveymg

(36,418 posts)

10. Jail for an employee stealing food? Who does the Army think they are, Walmart?

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Sun Mar 24, 2013, 10:53 PM

Mar 2013

Ter

(4,281 posts)

11. Thank God her name doesn't sound Italian

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Sun Mar 24, 2013, 11:01 PM

Mar 2013

The stereotypes against us would be through the roof.

markiv

(1,489 posts)

12. 'what are you in here for'?

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Sun Mar 24, 2013, 11:29 PM

Mar 2013

'stealing a bag of meatballs'

'no, seriously - what are you in here for'?

<sigh>

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)

13. "I ripped off some balls...

Reply to markiv (Reply #12)

Sun Mar 24, 2013, 11:35 PM

Mar 2013

...I couldn't help it. I saw red sauce...um, I mean I saw red."

markiv

(1,489 posts)

15. lol nt

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Sun Mar 24, 2013, 11:42 PM

Mar 2013

Mnpaul

(3,655 posts)

16. Alice's Restaurant - proceed to group W

Reply to markiv (Reply #12)

Mon Mar 25, 2013, 01:42 AM

Mar 2013

And I, I walked over to the, to the bench there, and there is, Group W's
where they put you if you may not be moral enough to join the army after
committing your special crime, and there was all kinds of mean nasty ugly
looking people on the bench there. Mother rapers. Father stabbers. Father
rapers! Father rapers sitting right there on the bench next to me! And
they was mean and nasty and ugly and horrible crime-type guys sitting on the
bench next to me. And the meanest, ugliest, nastiest one, the meanest
father raper of them all, was coming over to me and he was mean 'n' ugly
'n' nasty 'n' horrible and all kind of things and he sat down next to me
and said, "Kid, whad'ya get?" I said, "I didn't get nothing, I had to pay
$50 and pick up the garbage." He said, "What were you arrested for, kid?"
And I said, "Littering." And they all moved away from me on the bench
there, and the hairy eyeball and all kinds of mean nasty things, till I
said, "And creating a nuisance." And they all came back, shook my hand,
and we had a great time on the bench, talkin about crime, mother stabbing,
father raping, all kinds of groovy things that we was talking about on the
bench. And everything was fine, we was smoking cigarettes and all kinds of
things, until the Sargeant came over, had some paper in his hand, held it
up and said.
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