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Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
Mon Mar 25, 2013, 02:24 PM Mar 2013

64% Of Americans Want Military Action To Stop Iran

WASHINGTON - The US public strongly favors considering military action against Iran to prevent it from obtaining a nuclear weapon, a poll found.

The Pew Research Center poll conducted March 13-17 found that 64 percent of Americans agree that it is "more important to prevent Iran from developing nuclear weapons even if it means taking military action" as opposed to 24 percent who believe it is "more important to avoid military conflict even if Iran may develop nuclear weapons."

The poll also found that while many more Americans continue to favor Israel over the Palestinians, the gap narrows among younger Americans.

Overall, 49 percent of respondents said they sympathized with Israel more than with the Palestinians, while 12 percent said the reverse.

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http://www.jpost.com/International/64-percent-of-Americans-favor-military-action-to-stop-Iran-307663

As every day passes, I'm more and more convinced we are going to attack Iran...'you all ready for this?

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64% Of Americans Want Military Action To Stop Iran (Original Post) Purveyor Mar 2013 OP
We are already at war with Iran Puzzledtraveller Mar 2013 #1
+1 HiPointDem Mar 2013 #18
We have always been at war with Iran. grahamhgreen Mar 2013 #23
If I remember correctly, Pew hasn't been exactly accurate recently. sadbear Mar 2013 #2
March '03 Pew Poll showed 72% in favor of military action in Iraq. Ten years later, that had fallen leveymg Mar 2013 #33
propaganda RedstDem Mar 2013 #3
Is The Pew Research Center objective? I do not know if they are slanted surveys lunasun Mar 2013 #13
Americans...too stupid to know that war never solves anything. peace13 Mar 2013 #4
I can't think of anyone I know who thinks we should go to war with Iran Marrah_G Mar 2013 #5
Ready for it? I've been expecting it for 10 years now n/t arcane1 Mar 2013 #6
Pew didn't ask me. NO WAY!! sinkingfeeling Mar 2013 #7
It'll be quick and easy! Ask John McCain! TwilightGardener Mar 2013 #8
Percentage that favored military action in Iraq when it started? Not surprised but not ready either lunasun Mar 2013 #9
Just wait 'til we have our "Pearl Harbor." nt woo me with science Mar 2013 #10
so we didn't learn anything from iraq dembotoz Mar 2013 #11
Oh jeeez, premium Mar 2013 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author damnedifIknow Mar 2013 #14
Armchair commandos, premium Mar 2013 #16
Yep damnedifIknow Mar 2013 #20
Stop them from what? bamacrat Mar 2013 #15
That is what I want to know... and-justice-for-all Mar 2013 #62
Exactly, the right wing is more of a threat to our security and well being than Iran.. bamacrat Mar 2013 #71
The American public is dumber than a sack of rocks Cali_Democrat Mar 2013 #17
Wonder if that 64% realize that a war of aggression is the ultimate war crime should that little indepat Mar 2013 #36
Bullshit! Pardon Me If I Think a Poll Reported by the JPost Might be Biased dballance Mar 2013 #19
See my #64 below. nt stevenleser Mar 2013 #65
I HIGHLY suspect any poll which suggests this Demo_Chris Mar 2013 #21
Wow, did the Koch Idiots buy TPRC? They sure are working like Rex Mar 2013 #22
64%??? Oh sure they do. Suckers! Pew Research Center ...not legit anymore IMO. L0oniX Mar 2013 #24
L0oniX, why not just tell 'em what you really think? indepat Mar 2013 #37
Well ...I don't want to be on "the list". L0oniX Mar 2013 #38
Yes, in the new American century (PNAC), one must watch what they say, especially when indepat Mar 2013 #44
When I see polls I dispute, I run to pollingreport.com here is the link to all the Iran polls stevenleser Mar 2013 #64
Americans always favor killing people overseas geek tragedy Mar 2013 #25
They seem to like killing here too. n/t L0oniX Mar 2013 #39
The propaganda is working! Again liberal N proud Mar 2013 #26
We're a paranoid, heavily armed, and bloodthirsty lot, aren't we? Comrade Grumpy Mar 2013 #27
"Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it.. Fumesucker Mar 2013 #28
never underestimate the stupidity of the american people. bowens43 Mar 2013 #29
Would really like to see how this poll was worded. RedCappedBandit Mar 2013 #30
Well then those 64% can be first to go newfie11 Mar 2013 #31
They'd best cosign for the loans too then. I don't want a cent of it. TheKentuckian Mar 2013 #70
If the PEW poll is legitimate,then it just shows that 64% of Americans are dumber than hell, ladjf Mar 2013 #32
For what? Another $4 trillion dollar stalemate? Initech Mar 2013 #34
Don't worry ...silly ...our old people can give up some SS for the war effort. Hell... L0oniX Mar 2013 #41
I like George Carlin:"Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers." Initech Mar 2013 #43
6 trillion for Iraq with all interest once it is all said and done. nt stevenleser Mar 2013 #67
That's hard to believe get the red out Mar 2013 #35
Erect bogeyman, wave flag, sing God Bless America, send in the killers. Works every time. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2013 #40
But Obama and the DEM leadership wont be fooled like last time. Dr Fate Mar 2013 #47
Except of course Proud Liberal Dem Mar 2013 #54
Good. Then it won't happen. Dr Fate Mar 2013 #59
Then those assholes better start passing the hat around because we cannot afford it JVS Mar 2013 #42
Probably not affected by publication in the JP. HereSince1628 Mar 2013 #45
As long as Liberals like Obama, Reid and Pelosi are for it, I'm fine with it too. Dr Fate Mar 2013 #46
Ask how much money they want to spend on it & how many casualties... JHB Mar 2013 #48
I wonder typeviic Mar 2013 #49
Then 64% of the American people are idiots. Brigid Mar 2013 #50
Pew puts whatever they want to in their polls. They make shit up. loudsue Mar 2013 #51
They are skewed but even the unskewed show majority support. See my #64 above nt stevenleser Mar 2013 #68
I don't believe that for one second. 99Forever Mar 2013 #52
This report seems to be pushed exclusively by the israeli press. Shades of the Iraq war built up but Purveyor Mar 2013 #56
Pure War Pig propaganda... 99Forever Mar 2013 #58
64% of Americans are just too stupid to learn from their own mistakes. Oh well... idwiyo Mar 2013 #53
And why not? earthside Mar 2013 #55
How much did the JPost pay for this poll? Dawson Leery Mar 2013 #57
well if the Greeks and Macedonians can defeat the Persians madrchsod Mar 2013 #60
All we need is an army of 300 super-fine, gay body builders. Dr Fate Mar 2013 #61
Smells like horse shit to me, and trust me I know what Autumn Mar 2013 #63
why is iran the problem when bashar is killing his people with impunity? La Lioness Priyanka Mar 2013 #66
It's a bullshit question without a price-tag in BLOOD and finances. nt patrice Mar 2013 #69
And that is one good reason to avoid it all costs. 70% of Americans wanted the disaster that is sabrina 1 Mar 2013 #72

sadbear

(4,340 posts)
2. If I remember correctly, Pew hasn't been exactly accurate recently.
Mon Mar 25, 2013, 02:28 PM
Mar 2013

Last edited Mon Mar 25, 2013, 03:00 PM - Edit history (1)

But still, even if it was 50%, that's way too high.

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
33. March '03 Pew Poll showed 72% in favor of military action in Iraq. Ten years later, that had fallen
Mon Mar 25, 2013, 03:24 PM
Mar 2013

to 41%. See, http://www.pewresearch.org/2008/03/19/public-attitudes-toward-the-war-in-iraq-20032008/, and http://www.people-press.org/2013/03/18/a-decade-later-iraq-war-divides-the-public/

Apparently, 40% of the American people, according to Pew, continue to support almost any war we get ourselves into. But, the reality of protracted, costly wars tends to drive down support to that base level. Most come to realize that whatever initial enthusiasm they had for these "optional wars" was hysterical fears driven by a media environment of lies and propaganda.

War with Iran will end up being similarly unpopular. Support for that is at least ten points lower than it was for military action against Iraq a decade ago. Probably, real support for military conflict with Iran is considerably less, and will drop dramatically once the much more terrible costs of such a war starts to set in.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
13. Is The Pew Research Center objective? I do not know if they are slanted surveys
Mon Mar 25, 2013, 02:41 PM
Mar 2013

If they are as reliable as Fox surveys or something well.....I know they are out of D.C. that is all

 

peace13

(11,076 posts)
4. Americans...too stupid to know that war never solves anything.
Mon Mar 25, 2013, 02:33 PM
Mar 2013

One would think that the last 12 years would have taught us something. These idiots don't even realize that the reason this country is in debt is because of the unfunded fiascoes of the recent past. Too poor to feed, house and educate our people yet we still feel the need to kill and destroy across the globe. I just can not wrap my arms around this.

 

premium

(3,731 posts)
12. Oh jeeez,
Mon Mar 25, 2013, 02:40 PM
Mar 2013

not this shit again. When are we ever going to learn the lessons from Iraq and Afghanistan?

Response to premium (Reply #12)

bamacrat

(3,867 posts)
15. Stop them from what?
Mon Mar 25, 2013, 02:45 PM
Mar 2013

From getting a nuke? Really, haven't we done (still doing) this? They haven't tested one yet, like NK. A country such as Iran having nukes is alarming, but is it worth the death of hundreds of thousands of people? Or plan is to kill more people than one nuke ever would in the idea that we will deter them from getting it. If a country or person wants one they can get it without making it themselves. Dialogue can help dissuade one from taking extreme actions more than violence.

Punch me in the face I punch you back, explain to me why I am wrong and I may see the err of my ways.

Just a thought.

and-justice-for-all

(14,765 posts)
62. That is what I want to know...
Mon Mar 25, 2013, 07:56 PM
Mar 2013

stop them from what?? I am much more concerned with the teahadist on the Hill than I am about Iran.

bamacrat

(3,867 posts)
71. Exactly, the right wing is more of a threat to our security and well being than Iran..
Tue Mar 26, 2013, 09:58 AM
Mar 2013

will ever be, or ever has been for that matter. We meddle in the affairs of other countries and it bites us in the ass then we think the only solution is more meddling. We are the worlds leader in destruction and death. Not really a beacon on the hill for others to aspire to, but a unifying symbol of hate and division.

Countries around the world don't want to fight us, we will bankrupt ourselves to flatten the earth. They do however see us as the bully in the room that someone has to stand up to and bring down a peg. If we led in education, equality and advancement the rest of the world would view us as the great country we think we are.

Empires are a thing of the past, economies are too intertwined and co-dependent for one country to rule supremely. We can still be the greatest most powerful, but I believe there is a saying that those with true power know when not to use it. We haven't learned that yet.

The pukes and tehadists will do everything they can to destroy our country only to point to our Islamic Kenyan leader as the reason why.

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
17. The American public is dumber than a sack of rocks
Mon Mar 25, 2013, 02:57 PM
Mar 2013

Most Americans supported military action against Iraq and an even greater number thought Saddam was connected to 9/11.

I have no confidence in the American public.

indepat

(20,899 posts)
36. Wonder if that 64% realize that a war of aggression is the ultimate war crime should that little
Mon Mar 25, 2013, 03:48 PM
Mar 2013

nicety enter into anyone's calculus. Nay! We just give 'em shock and awe and tell 'em screw international law.

 

dballance

(5,756 posts)
19. Bullshit! Pardon Me If I Think a Poll Reported by the JPost Might be Biased
Mon Mar 25, 2013, 02:59 PM
Mar 2013

Did the Jerusalem Post Sponsor the poll? What were the questions asked? From what population was the polling sample selected? We all know these things can impart a bias to a poll.

I know no one who wants us to get into another middle eastern war. Especially with a country that couldn't possibly deliver a nuke on a missile to the US. I think we have a lot greater chance of some terrorist organization (like the ones we helped fan the flames for in Iraq and Afghanistan) to sneak in a nuke they acquired from the former USSR to the US. Hell, if the terrorists just combed Iraq for all the "depleted" uranium we dropped on them and made it into a dirty bomb to explode in the US then we'd be screwed there too.

Here's one where I'm with Rand Paul. Let's repeal the AUMF. Not that laws have really meant anything to administrations lately, but it's a start.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
22. Wow, did the Koch Idiots buy TPRC? They sure are working like
Mon Mar 25, 2013, 03:01 PM
Mar 2013

a commercial house now for the PTB. How fucking sad and pathetic.

 

L0oniX

(31,493 posts)
24. 64%??? Oh sure they do. Suckers! Pew Research Center ...not legit anymore IMO.
Mon Mar 25, 2013, 03:02 PM
Mar 2013

"49 percent of respondents" hrm ...so from what group was that from? APAC? They can go stick that poll up their Wombat's ass. Fuck the military! Fuck war! Fuck the assholes who start them. Fuck the global police. Fuck the corporations who push for this shit and profit from this shit! Fear me! I am a anti-war protestor!

indepat

(20,899 posts)
44. Yes, in the new American century (PNAC), one must watch what they say, especially when
Mon Mar 25, 2013, 05:52 PM
Mar 2013

it might be construed as anti-war or anti-Wall Street 'cause such impertinences will not be tolerated by the oligarchs or those in government who do their bidding.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
64. When I see polls I dispute, I run to pollingreport.com here is the link to all the Iran polls
Mon Mar 25, 2013, 08:01 PM
Mar 2013
http://www.pollingreport.com/iran.htm


Looks like Pew is an outlier by about 5-10% depending on which other poll you look at and how they word the poll, but it does seem that most polls show Americans are in favor of military action against Iran.
 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
25. Americans always favor killing people overseas
Mon Mar 25, 2013, 03:05 PM
Mar 2013

so long as it doesn't mean putting US boots on the ground.

We are a militaristic, violence-loving society.

 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
27. We're a paranoid, heavily armed, and bloodthirsty lot, aren't we?
Mon Mar 25, 2013, 03:09 PM
Mar 2013

Someday the chickens will come home to roost.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
28. "Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it..
Mon Mar 25, 2013, 03:12 PM
Mar 2013

Good and hard."

-HL Mencken


http://thinkexist.com/quotation/naturally_the_common_people_don-t_want_war/339098.html

“Naturally the common people don't want war; neither in Russia, nor in England, nor in America, nor in Germany. That is understood. But after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.”

-H Goering

newfie11

(8,159 posts)
31. Well then those 64% can be first to go
Mon Mar 25, 2013, 03:15 PM
Mar 2013

They are buying the same shit that was spewed before the Iraq war.

Never ending war is a money maker for some and to hell about everyone else.

ladjf

(17,320 posts)
32. If the PEW poll is legitimate,then it just shows that 64% of Americans are dumber than hell,
Mon Mar 25, 2013, 03:24 PM
Mar 2013

which is no news flash. nt

Initech

(100,080 posts)
34. For what? Another $4 trillion dollar stalemate?
Mon Mar 25, 2013, 03:25 PM
Mar 2013

We already cannot afford Iraq and Afghanistan, we'll be paying for this shit for the next hundred years. And if we do go to war with Iran then what? The same fucking assholes who profited from Iraq and Afghanistan will be profiting from this war too!!

 

L0oniX

(31,493 posts)
41. Don't worry ...silly ...our old people can give up some SS for the war effort. Hell...
Mon Mar 25, 2013, 04:37 PM
Mar 2013

even our sick will gladly die sooner so as to cost less and thereby make more money available for the (corporate) war cause. Hey ...uhm ...oh wow ...I just had a great idea ...let's send all of our medically uninsured and sick to the front lines.

Initech

(100,080 posts)
43. I like George Carlin:"Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers."
Mon Mar 25, 2013, 04:43 PM
Mar 2013

Dr Fate

(32,189 posts)
47. But Obama and the DEM leadership wont be fooled like last time.
Mon Mar 25, 2013, 05:59 PM
Mar 2013

At least that is what I am saying for now.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,414 posts)
54. Except of course
Mon Mar 25, 2013, 07:29 PM
Mar 2013

That the President and Democrats aren't advocating for attacking Iran (and would probably only dragged into it by Israel if at all)

Dr Fate

(32,189 posts)
59. Good. Then it won't happen.
Mon Mar 25, 2013, 07:43 PM
Mar 2013

The President and Democrats will fight the GOP tooth and nail, and ignore the polls, just like last time.

Or not. I'm cool either way.

Dr Fate

(32,189 posts)
46. As long as Liberals like Obama, Reid and Pelosi are for it, I'm fine with it too.
Mon Mar 25, 2013, 05:57 PM
Mar 2013

Are we supporters of the Democratic Party here, or mere malcontent, anti-war liberals going every-which-a-way with no leadership?

Folks, if we ignore the polls, we are going to lose elections, just like we would have if we had refused to go along with the other wars.

JHB

(37,161 posts)
48. Ask how much money they want to spend on it & how many casualties...
Mon Mar 25, 2013, 06:03 PM
Mar 2013

...they want to volunteer for, and you may find different results.

 

typeviic

(61 posts)
49. I wonder
Mon Mar 25, 2013, 06:56 PM
Mar 2013

how many Americans would have been against Israel SECRETLY building her nukes if the MSM had the same passion and zeal covering the nuke site at Dimona? Oh, and as an added bonus, Israel is not a signatory of the NNPT.

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
52. I don't believe that for one second.
Mon Mar 25, 2013, 07:26 PM
Mar 2013

Figures lie and liars figure.

Pew Research can go fuck themselves. If Pew Research wants a fucking war, Pew Research can go fight it, with their own children, on their own dime.

Pew, smells like shit in here.

 

Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
56. This report seems to be pushed exclusively by the israeli press. Shades of the Iraq war built up but
Mon Mar 25, 2013, 07:33 PM
Mar 2013

troubling...just the same.

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
58. Pure War Pig propaganda...
Mon Mar 25, 2013, 07:39 PM
Mar 2013

... nothing more, nothing less.

No more wars of choice, EVER.

If Israel wants to start a war, that's on them, they are on their own. We need to refuse to be their mercenary bullies.

earthside

(6,960 posts)
55. And why not?
Mon Mar 25, 2013, 07:31 PM
Mar 2013

Who in upper leadership in this country has been explaining what an attack on Iran will mean?

From the President and his administration and the Repuglicans we get basically the same message: Iran cannot be permitted to have an atomic bomb and all options are on the table to prevent that possibility.

I haven't heard any top leadership yet explain what such a war will cost; what the economic consequences will be of the turmoil in oil markets; or that there isn't a very high prospect for success ... let alone the cost in Iranian lives.

So, why wouldn't 64 percent want war right now?
Most Americans have been conditioned to love war ("thank you for your service&quot and to hate Arabs (yes, I know Iranians are Persians, but who here thinks that the 64 percent know that?).

I, too am of the inclination to believe that our Noble Peace Prize winning President will go along with Bibi and preemptively attack Iran.

Dawson Leery

(19,348 posts)
57. How much did the JPost pay for this poll?
Mon Mar 25, 2013, 07:36 PM
Mar 2013

With that said, it is plausible that a majority of Americans want to go to war with Iran. The majority of Americans live in fear.

Autumn

(45,107 posts)
63. Smells like horse shit to me, and trust me I know what
Mon Mar 25, 2013, 07:57 PM
Mar 2013

horse shit smells like. I move enough of it.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
72. And that is one good reason to avoid it all costs. 70% of Americans wanted the disaster that is
Tue Mar 26, 2013, 11:10 AM
Mar 2013

still ongoing in Iraq. Considering the enormous failure of that foreign adventure, I would think you would not turn to those who were so completely wrong about it, to decide the next one.

I take that as the best reason so far NOT to even think of any military action in Iran.

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