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Kolesar

(31,182 posts) Fri Mar 29, 2013, 07:49 AM Mar 2013

Men With Loaded Rifles Intimidate Moms Gathered At Indiana Gun Safety Rally--Think Progress

Several men with assault rifles and hand guns crashed a Mayor’s Against Illegal Guns National Day to Demand Action event in Indianapolis, Indiana on Thursday and stood silently as the state chapter of Moms Demand Action held a rally in favor of limiting the availability of military style weapons and universal background checks.

At least two or three men showed up at the rally site before the event began and engaged in a discussion about gun regulations with the group, two participants in the action told ThinkProgress. The armed men — who were later joined by another man carrying a hand gun and a woman who runs Indiana Moms Against Gun Control — insisted that they had a right to carry the loaded weapons.

More pics of the creeps, video and text at Think Progress:
http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2013/03/28/1791361/men-with-loaded-rifles-intimidate-moms-gathered-at-gun-safety-rally/

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Men With Loaded Rifles Intimidate Moms Gathered At Indiana Gun Safety Rally--Think Progress (Original Post) Kolesar Mar 2013 OP

Terrorists. nt Comrade_McKenzie Mar 2013 #1

Minor league terrorists doing what the major leagues ones, Congress, allow. nt valerief Mar 2013 #23

succinct. let's say they''d showed up with axes or grenades. elehhhhna Mar 2013 #60

"microjunk".... truth2power Mar 2013 #77

Ha! Even if that's not true of their wee-wees, it has to be true of their micro self-esteem. nt valerief Mar 2013 #115

What is the policy for acts of terrorism, and why? napoleon_in_rags Mar 2013 #176

+ 1 red dog 1 Mar 2013 #202

This pisses me off beyond belief! That these Laurian Mar 2013 #2

What will you do? Puzzledtraveller Mar 2013 #5

Whatever a retiree with limited means can do. Write, contribute to organizations Laurian Mar 2013 #21

Your post gives me hope marions ghost Mar 2013 #142

Welcome to Somalia... rucky Mar 2013 #3

Yep that is what it feels like marions ghost Mar 2013 #15

Shades of Somalia right here in the good ole USA. Go USA, Go USA indepat Mar 2013 #145

Totally... Serve The Servants Apr 2013 #234

Dumb fools. Hoyt Mar 2013 #4

Fucking idiots. nt hack89 Mar 2013 #6

Tell your gun buddies, not us. Hoyt Mar 2013 #117

If I was there, I would. nt hack89 Mar 2013 #118

gotta keep those wimmins in their place... CTyankee Mar 2013 #7

For the next meeting, they need to have signs made: Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2013 #86

That might shame them. And if they wanted to prove differently, arrest their ass for it. freshwest Mar 2013 #200

This is what bullies do. 99Forever Mar 2013 #8

Gun culture is a mental illness. AlbertCat Mar 2013 #16

Well said etherealtruth Mar 2013 #194

DUMB FUCKS !!! n/t RKP5637 Mar 2013 #9

oh, that's a man? Whisp Mar 2013 #10

It certainly is. TheCowsCameHome Mar 2013 #13

Real men don't need guns tblue Mar 2013 #104

real men don't carry guns around that kind of crowd. n/t Whisp Mar 2013 #106

big men. leave your fucking guns at home assholes. spanone Mar 2013 #11

Why are they always the doughy guys who look like they spent the last year of weekends on the sofa? Squinch Mar 2013 #12

I'd get a sign that read "carrying that gun won't make your peepee bigger!" CTyankee Mar 2013 #19

You do have a way of getting to the heart of the matter, don't you? Squinch Mar 2013 #26

It's because I am so damn old... CTyankee Mar 2013 #29

LOL! Squinch Mar 2013 #30

that was my take on FB when I saw this Duppers Mar 2013 #204

I was just trying to figure out a way to say that. Thank you! Demoiselle Apr 2013 #235

The ones carrying assault style rifles Mnpaul Mar 2013 #14

Err... that's what an AR-15 is? Recursion Mar 2013 #52

Not even close to an AR-15 Mnpaul Mar 2013 #61

I've never seen a rimfire with that furniture Recursion Mar 2013 #67

Mossberg 715t Mnpaul Mar 2013 #73

*shrug* looks like the carbine-length upper to me Recursion Mar 2013 #76

It is the same thing as any 22lr semi auto Mnpaul Mar 2013 #81

The .22LR versions don't use gas ... oldhippie Mar 2013 #108

*facepalm* Thank you Recursion Mar 2013 #116

Don't feel bad Mnpaul Mar 2013 #121

As if .22 LR rim-fires aren't lethal. You lose. Paladin Mar 2013 #80

I lose? Mnpaul Mar 2013 #97

22 LR isn't leathal? shedevil69taz Mar 2013 #128

Guy on my base committed suicide with a .22 5-shot target pistol. haele Mar 2013 #156

they aren't used to look scary.. SQUEE Mar 2013 #223

"...maintain their manual of arms...." Yeah, that's the ticket. Paladin Mar 2013 #224

they are not disguised as anything SQUEE Mar 2013 #225

Tell you what: why don't you and your gun pals get your stories straight? Paladin Mar 2013 #227

Again, that projection of why YOU can't be trusted. SQUEE Mar 2013 #228

Not much of a response. But then, my expectations weren't very high.... (nt) Paladin Mar 2013 #229

and yours was true to form SQUEE Mar 2013 #231

You too. (nt) Paladin Apr 2013 #232

It doesn't matter what the guns are, the presence of these weapons was meant to intimidate. The Erose999 Mar 2013 #111

It does matter Mnpaul Mar 2013 #119

This is not freaking out. This is anger at an asshole. There's a difference. Squinch Mar 2013 #174

This is known as the "gunner trivia technical diversion". NT. Warren Stupidity Mar 2013 #214

Sorry, not a gun owner Mnpaul Mar 2013 #218

For not being a gun owner, you seem very well informed. (nt) Paladin Mar 2013 #219

Worked in a gun store/pawn shop Mnpaul Mar 2013 #220

I am pretty sure nether of those are S&W .22 or conversions SQUEE Mar 2013 #226

Fucking trolls SecularMotion Mar 2013 #17

This kind of intimidation marions ghost Mar 2013 #18

"Gun rights" DUers, this is who you stand with. Robb Mar 2013 #20

Wrong. cherokeeprogressive Mar 2013 #35

But you do, you do. baldguy Mar 2013 #45

I don't own an "assault rifle" and I don't carry. cherokeeprogressive Mar 2013 #50

Then tell me: Why do "responsible gun owners" always side with assholes like this baldguy Mar 2013 #53

Because what you call gun control is the equivalent of BSL ProgressiveProfessor Mar 2013 #63

30,000 gun deaths per yr vs 20 deaths due to dogs per yr. There's no comparison. baldguy Mar 2013 #65

Exact same concept and a massive inconsistancy in your positions ProgressiveProfessor Mar 2013 #69

OK, let's do this again. Because one lesson wasn't enough for you apparently. baldguy Mar 2013 #79

You continue to confuse scale with concept and play fast an loose with the numbers ProgressiveProfessor Mar 2013 #82

I'm sorry. I know numbers are hard for you. But reality is hard too. baldguy Mar 2013 #85

Keep pushing false scale with bad numbers...it does not help your position in the least ProgressiveProfessor Mar 2013 #89

How long have you played for the knights? Botany Mar 2013 #109

Scale with concept Progressive dog Mar 2013 #222

Thank you for your point well made. northoftheborder Mar 2013 #96

No, it's not well made. It's a sledgehammer. baldguy Mar 2013 #102

sorry, should have known to stay out of a fist-fight. my post was posted under the wrong comment. northoftheborder Mar 2013 #172

Update since you posted earlier today CincyDem Mar 2013 #153

Some of us learn; we empathize with those suffering under the tyranny of gun violence. baldguy Mar 2013 #180

That is really stunning. Good visual. Squinch Mar 2013 #199

I'm trying to figure out what makes you think I would know... cherokeeprogressive Mar 2013 #84

You get lumped with gun nuts because you always stand up with them. baldguy Mar 2013 #87

You're FUCKING WRONG. PROVE I always stand up with "gun nuts". cherokeeprogressive Mar 2013 #196

Jusy look at your own replies in this thread. baldguy Mar 2013 #198

I've legally carried a handgun for over 15 years. ... spin Mar 2013 #185

Only assholes carry guns. baldguy Mar 2013 #186

Thanks for calling me an asshole. ... spin Mar 2013 #197

Lol, is this part of that new "outreach" you gun control nuts are trying out? Daniel537 Mar 2013 #210

Civilized societies work to eliminate threats to those societies. baldguy Mar 2013 #213

We're sick and tired of you thugs trying to intimidate us. kestrel91316 Mar 2013 #105

And this is why the pro-control movement is in trouble WinniSkipper Mar 2013 #110

as opposed to the COLD DEAD HANDS!!1 or I NEED AN AR-15 AND 30 RD MAG.. frylock Mar 2013 #112

Not a good comparison WinniSkipper Mar 2013 #114

This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl Mar 2013 #135

Unfortunately there is some justification for than fear ProgressiveProfessor Mar 2013 #143

This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl Mar 2013 #144

Are you saying that there are not people openly and clearly calling for it? ProgressiveProfessor Mar 2013 #147

This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl Mar 2013 #148

Those that are making the call for confiscation are justifying those fears ProgressiveProfessor Mar 2013 #149

This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl Mar 2013 #150

Those who make such call are the creating and justifying the fears ProgressiveProfessor Mar 2013 #152

This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl Mar 2013 #155

NK is unstable and they are desperate ProgressiveProfessor Mar 2013 #157

Those that are carrying loaded guns to a "moms" protest are justifying a lot more fears. Squinch Mar 2013 #177

I agree. Both sides have people who do dumb over the top things in public ProgressiveProfessor Mar 2013 #178

Sorry, but Squinch Mar 2013 #181

They both cause loss of support from those in the middle for their sides ProgressiveProfessor Mar 2013 #183

I think you are kidding yourself about which is widely seen as more irresponsible, Squinch Mar 2013 #184

Dead people tend to cause emotions in those that are still living. neverforget Mar 2013 #161

Which is why victims WinniSkipper Mar 2013 #221

Negligible difference between that and breed specific bans ProgressiveProfessor Mar 2013 #124

I am already there... Kalidurga Mar 2013 #170

Pull up your pants and stop being so easily terrified... Melon_Lord Mar 2013 #193

I'm a THUG, a BULLY, and a TERRORIST? cherokeeprogressive Mar 2013 #195

Not wrong. This is who is making "statements." This is who is getting the publicity. Squinch Mar 2013 #175

Wrong. I denounce this as reckless and stupid hack89 Mar 2013 #43

Concealed carry isn't much different. baldguy Mar 2013 #46

Only if you are scared of things you can't see and don't know are there. nt hack89 Mar 2013 #68

People who feel the need to carry a gun act differently when they do. baldguy Mar 2013 #83

'If you're carrying a gun, you're an asshole by definition.' Phillip McCleod Mar 2013 #90

Post removed Post removed Mar 2013 #94

So all LEOs, active and retired are assholes? ProgressiveProfessor Mar 2013 #127

"when they have no need to" baldguy Mar 2013 #129

Why do LEOs need guns? oldhippie Mar 2013 #131

Because it goes with the job ProgressiveProfessor Mar 2013 #136

Why? oldhippie Mar 2013 #138

Because LEOs deal with the bad guys, who can be violent, on society's behalf ProgressiveProfessor Mar 2013 #141

What defines need? LEOs carry all the time, "needed" or not ProgressiveProfessor Mar 2013 #132

Concealed carry is totally different ProgressiveProfessor Mar 2013 #71

You vote with them on gun issues. Robb Mar 2013 #88

Every politician I have voted for is pro-gun control hack89 Mar 2013 #93

. Union Scribe Mar 2013 #123

If you feel unfairly demonized, perhaps you're standing too close to the demons. Robb Mar 2013 #139

Inane, divisive nonsense. Union Scribe Mar 2013 #158

Ah yes, the "I'm so offended" gambit. Robb Mar 2013 #160

Find a thesaurus? Lol. Union Scribe Mar 2013 #162

My favorite bit was when you said "I'm with Obama." Robb Mar 2013 #164

Exactly right, despite the pathetic protestations alcibiades_mystery Mar 2013 #57

+ 1,000,000,000 !!! - Bravo !!! - K & R !!! WillyT Mar 2013 #59

You are so right! They just let these pond scum do their dirty work for them. Walk away Mar 2013 #103

"Gun rights" DUers don't actually exist Cali_Democrat Mar 2013 #165

That's called "giving away the ending." Robb Mar 2013 #166

Children and their "Preshis." HughBeaumont Mar 2013 #22

Jon Hamm doesn't feel the need to walk around with a big gun. nt valerief Mar 2013 #24

You got it. +100 Duppers Mar 2013 #205

these are the kind of assholes Maine-ah Mar 2013 #25

But this is who is out there. This is who gun control advocates are hearing. Your voice is being Squinch Mar 2013 #27

OK, why would they NEED to protest "gun safety"? CTyankee Mar 2013 #28

there are many of us... Maine-ah Mar 2013 #33

See, I don't "get" why you don't align yourself with these groups since your CTyankee Mar 2013 #36

this is why I don't normally post in these threads.... Maine-ah Mar 2013 #40

But we never seem to hear from those in your ranks who DO have the ability to go to CTyankee Mar 2013 #44

you don't hear from us here, Maine-ah Mar 2013 #54

Lumping different people together is what Union Scribe Mar 2013 #122

I am glad to hear from you. CTyankee Mar 2013 #130

The rally and MAIG are not about gun safety ProgressiveProfessor Mar 2013 #72

And yet, when these things come up for a vote baldguy Mar 2013 #49

Yep, perfectly put. Union Scribe Mar 2013 #120

If a passing truck had backfired, they would have crapped themselves TheCowsCameHome Mar 2013 #31

Or started shooting people......... djean111 Mar 2013 #98

Hopefully the nearest guy with a weapon. TheCowsCameHome Mar 2013 #125

I wondered what was up yesterday Botany Mar 2013 #32

Thugs. nt Tommy_Carcetti Mar 2013 #34

Here, too Tree-Hugger Mar 2013 #37

Once again the gun fetishists show us that a total ban is the only acceptable solution nt bowens43 Mar 2013 #38

Tossers. City Lights Mar 2013 #39

I find it interesting that they must show up with weapons... Javaman Mar 2013 #41

Nail on the head. timdog44 Mar 2013 #169

jerks SummerSnow Mar 2013 #42

The intruders " insisted that they had a right to carry" DFW Mar 2013 #47

There is a guy fitman Mar 2013 #48

"Total paranoid idiot.." Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2013 #66

What I noticed erpowers Mar 2013 #51

These idiots with their guns keep yapping about their rights being taken away? Harriety Mar 2013 #55

I HATE living in Indiana. My state is quickly becoming the land of the idiots, home of the firenewt Mar 2013 #56

I felt that way about Colorado for a long time, but look at us now.. mountain grammy Mar 2013 #64

Can't happen here in Indiana. No reason for progressive people to move here. The scenery sucks, firenewt Mar 2013 #113

There are only two purposes for this: Brigid Mar 2013 #58

gun bullies KG Mar 2013 #62

I have no objection to counter demonstrations or even a debate on being for or against gun control Arcanetrance Mar 2013 #70

Part of me wonders if they were really loaded ProgressiveProfessor Mar 2013 #74

This is going to very ugly olddots Mar 2013 #75

these "men" should be ashamed for this behavior warrior1 Mar 2013 #78

More than ashamed marions ghost Mar 2013 #190

Classless assholes. Initech Mar 2013 #91

One reason I left Indiana LittleGirl Mar 2013 #92

Ideas for the Moms for next & future protests: ReRe Mar 2013 #95

Keep it up Gun Lovers! It's down hill from here for you... Walk away Mar 2013 #99

Ooooooohhh brave dude against women..... Sheepshank Mar 2013 #100

Is there symbolism in play here? KansDem Mar 2013 #101

It's more like they're hanging around our neck Union Scribe Mar 2013 #163

This what I call terrorism. blackspade Mar 2013 #107

These jackals give a bad reputation to firearm owners. Dawson Leery Mar 2013 #126

Reminiscent of the Brownshirts. moondust Mar 2013 #133

Agree. n/t kiranon Mar 2013 #168

I hate these bastards zaireeka Mar 2013 #134

that's the reason why conservatives embraced gun control in the 60s datasuspect Mar 2013 #137

Neither left nor right... zaireeka Mar 2013 #140

Like when the government comes to the compound and takes the women? Because Squinch Mar 2013 #179

Or... zaireeka Mar 2013 #187

So we should leave gun laws as they are so folks can pull guns on cops? What are you saying? Squinch Mar 2013 #188

I'm saying zaireeka Mar 2013 #189

Oh, please. Squinch Mar 2013 #191

My position zaireeka Mar 2013 #201

But you are saying we shouldn't be changing any laws for fear of unintended consequences. Squinch Mar 2013 #206

If that is what you inferred... zaireeka Mar 2013 #207

So no change in the gun laws. Your strong anti-gun stance notwithstanding. Squinch Mar 2013 #208

Interpret as you see fit zaireeka Mar 2013 #215

Try breastfeeding an infant in front of them and just see who gets arrested for disturbing the peace Hekate Mar 2013 #146

Ha, ha! Bolo Boffin Mar 2013 #182

Psychotic bullies, all. The evidence piles up more irrevocably each and every day. villager Mar 2013 #151

Was somebody giving lessons in gun safety? marshall Mar 2013 #154

I feel like kicking that asshole in the back Politicalboi Mar 2013 #159

Gunners are cowardly pieces of shit Cali_Democrat Mar 2013 #167

In their minds Mopar151 Mar 2013 #192

Men With Loaded Rifles show up at rally to prove.... Kalidurga Mar 2013 #171

I guess they didnt see the AsahinaKimi Mar 2013 #173

paranoid, cowardly bastards Skittles Mar 2013 #203

Meh Daniel537 Mar 2013 #209

No, you "get over it" ... eom Kolesar Mar 2013 #212

Oh, but they are intimidating, and they are threatening. AngryOldDem Mar 2013 #216

Wonder what would happen if these men with loaded rifles were black? nt raccoon Mar 2013 #211

That's always an appropriate question to ask. Paladin Mar 2013 #217

This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl Mar 2013 #230

Yeah, that "gun control is historically racist" used to be a staple of theirs. Paladin Apr 2013 #233

Comrade_McKenzie

(2,526 posts)

1. Terrorists. nt

Reply to Kolesar (Original post)

Fri Mar 29, 2013, 07:56 AM

Mar 2013

valerief

(53,235 posts)

23. Minor league terrorists doing what the major leagues ones, Congress, allow. nt

Reply to Comrade_McKenzie (Reply #1)

Fri Mar 29, 2013, 09:02 AM

Mar 2013

elehhhhna

(32,076 posts)

60. succinct. let's say they''d showed up with axes or grenades.

Reply to valerief (Reply #23)

Fri Mar 29, 2013, 10:00 AM

Mar 2013

Or boxcutters...what then? HOW IS THIS NOT THREATENING BEHAVIOR? If you did it at work it would be ruled a hostile environment. Gals should have run them over on sight and called "Stand your ground".

Might makes right microjunk m'f'ers

This is bullshit

truth2power

(8,219 posts)

77. "microjunk"....

Reply to elehhhhna (Reply #60)

Fri Mar 29, 2013, 10:34 AM

Mar 2013

Sorry, probably not PC here, but I couldn't help myself.

valerief

(53,235 posts)

115. Ha! Even if that's not true of their wee-wees, it has to be true of their micro self-esteem. nt

Reply to elehhhhna (Reply #60)

Fri Mar 29, 2013, 12:11 PM

Mar 2013

napoleon_in_rags

(3,991 posts)

176. What is the policy for acts of terrorism, and why?

Reply to Comrade_McKenzie (Reply #1)

Fri Mar 29, 2013, 05:58 PM

Mar 2013

I believe the policy is "never give in to the demands of a terrorist". The reason for the policy is that if the demands of a terrorist are met, it will send a message to all to act like terrorists to achieve their aims, thereby effectively multiplying the amount of terrorist acts.

A similar principle applies here to some extent, it really applied during the Obamacare town halls where they showed up with guns: Unless you want constituents pointing guns at your head all the time, don't side with the people who show up with guns. Therefore the "we have guns" message almost infallibly works against those who use it. Here that message is muted because the debate is actually about guns, so the counter protesters having guns isn't as far out as it was with the town hall. But its the same principle does apply. The more documented their intimidation is, the more the become a counter force to their own political aims.

red dog 1

(27,866 posts)

202. + 1

Reply to napoleon_in_rags (Reply #176)

Sat Mar 30, 2013, 12:03 AM

Mar 2013

Laurian

(2,593 posts)

2. This pisses me off beyond belief! That these

Reply to Kolesar (Original post)

Fri Mar 29, 2013, 08:01 AM

Mar 2013

loud, obnoxious assholes who hold guns more precious than life have hijacked the debate concerning gun violence is, in the words of President Obama, shameful. I am writing to my Senators and Representatives as well as those cretins (Rand, Cruz, Rubio, etc.) who are threatening to filibuster any gun legislation. I live in a red state, and writing to my Senators and Representatives is probably futile, but I will not just sit back and let people like those in Indiana take over the issue.

Puzzledtraveller

(5,937 posts)

5. What will you do?

Reply to Laurian (Reply #2)

Fri Mar 29, 2013, 08:13 AM

Mar 2013

Laurian

(2,593 posts)

21. Whatever a retiree with limited means can do. Write, contribute to organizations

Reply to Puzzledtraveller (Reply #5)

Fri Mar 29, 2013, 08:58 AM

Mar 2013

working to reduce gun violence, take my rickety bones to any demonstrations in my area, contribute to candidates who reflect my views and will oppose people like Rand, Cruz, Rubio, McConnell......

Too often, I've been discouraged about my inability to make a difference and considering where I live, it's been too easy to accept that my voice is unimportant. In this case, I truly believe that I am with the majority, but the majority isn't as vocal as our opponents. That needs to change.

If enough people like me can make themselves heard, I am hopeful that we can at least balance out (if not cancel out) the likes of the Indiana gun lovers.

marions ghost

(19,841 posts)

142. Your post gives me hope

Reply to Laurian (Reply #21)

Fri Mar 29, 2013, 02:34 PM

Mar 2013

rucky

(35,211 posts)

3. Welcome to Somalia...

Reply to Kolesar (Original post)

Fri Mar 29, 2013, 08:03 AM

Mar 2013

marions ghost

(19,841 posts)

15. Yep that is what it feels like

Reply to rucky (Reply #3)

Fri Mar 29, 2013, 08:50 AM

Mar 2013

indepat

(20,899 posts)

145. Shades of Somalia right here in the good ole USA. Go USA, Go USA

Reply to rucky (Reply #3)

Fri Mar 29, 2013, 02:43 PM

Mar 2013

At least in Somalia, the AR-15-type-toters must consider it judicious to cover their faces whereas in the USA their faces are brandished with consummate pride and arrogance.

Serve The Servants

(328 posts)

234. Totally...

Reply to rucky (Reply #3)

Mon Apr 1, 2013, 09:57 AM

Apr 2013

I was just thinking earlier this weekend, while I was mowing the lawn, just how much this place reminds me of Somalia.

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)

4. Dumb fools.

Reply to Kolesar (Original post)

Fri Mar 29, 2013, 08:04 AM

Mar 2013

hack89

(39,171 posts)

6. Fucking idiots. nt

Reply to Kolesar (Original post)

Fri Mar 29, 2013, 08:15 AM

Mar 2013

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)

117. Tell your gun buddies, not us.

Reply to hack89 (Reply #6)

Fri Mar 29, 2013, 12:29 PM

Mar 2013

(53,661 posts)

200. That might shame them. And if they wanted to prove differently, arrest their ass for it.

Reply to Hassin Bin Sober (Reply #86)

Fri Mar 29, 2013, 11:35 PM

Mar 2013

99Forever

(14,524 posts)

8. This is what bullies do.

Reply to Kolesar (Original post)

Fri Mar 29, 2013, 08:33 AM

Mar 2013

More clear evidence that those that want guns most, are the very same ones that shouldn't EVER be allowed to touch one, let alone own it.

Gun culture is a mental illness.

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)

16. Gun culture is a mental illness.

Reply to 99Forever (Reply #8)

Fri Mar 29, 2013, 08:52 AM

Mar 2013

Bingo! Plus 10000!

etherealtruth

(22,165 posts)

194. Well said

Reply to 99Forever (Reply #8)

Fri Mar 29, 2013, 08:23 PM

Mar 2013

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)

9. DUMB FUCKS !!! n/t

Reply to Kolesar (Original post)

Fri Mar 29, 2013, 08:34 AM

Mar 2013

Whisp

(24,096 posts)

10. oh, that's a man?

Reply to Kolesar (Original post)

Fri Mar 29, 2013, 08:35 AM

Mar 2013

looks like a slug to me.

TheCowsCameHome

(40,169 posts)

13. It certainly is.

Reply to Whisp (Reply #10)

Fri Mar 29, 2013, 08:37 AM

Mar 2013

Can't you see his manliness hanging down?

tblue

(16,350 posts)

104. Real men don't need guns

Reply to Whisp (Reply #10)

Fri Mar 29, 2013, 11:22 AM

Mar 2013

So, no. I guess it's not.

Whisp

(24,096 posts)

106. real men don't carry guns around that kind of crowd. n/t

Reply to tblue (Reply #104)

Fri Mar 29, 2013, 11:29 AM

Mar 2013

spanone

(135,887 posts)

11. big men. leave your fucking guns at home assholes.

Reply to Kolesar (Original post)

Fri Mar 29, 2013, 08:36 AM

Mar 2013

Squinch

(51,022 posts)

12. Why are they always the doughy guys who look like they spent the last year of weekends on the sofa?

Reply to Kolesar (Original post)

Fri Mar 29, 2013, 08:37 AM

Mar 2013

And they're always looking off in the distance, thinking they are looking like a symbol of "liberty."

If it weren't so obnoxious, it would be hilarious.

And look at that photo and tell me again how that's not a phallic symbol.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)

19. I'd get a sign that read "carrying that gun won't make your peepee bigger!"

Reply to Squinch (Reply #12)

Fri Mar 29, 2013, 08:55 AM

Mar 2013

That would probably get their attention away from their "pose."

These dolts should be loudly and publicly laughed at by groups of women. Isn't that what they are afraid of in the first place?

Squinch

(51,022 posts)

26. You do have a way of getting to the heart of the matter, don't you?

Reply to CTyankee (Reply #19)

Fri Mar 29, 2013, 09:04 AM

Mar 2013

Your posts always zing right to the point!

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)

29. It's because I am so damn old...

Reply to Squinch (Reply #26)

Fri Mar 29, 2013, 09:10 AM

Mar 2013

we get cranky as hell as we get older...

Squinch

(51,022 posts)

30. LOL!

Reply to CTyankee (Reply #29)

Fri Mar 29, 2013, 09:10 AM

Mar 2013

Duppers

(28,127 posts)

204. that was my take on FB when I saw this

Reply to CTyankee (Reply #19)

Sat Mar 30, 2013, 03:37 AM

Mar 2013

My response to them would have been a loud & clear, "dick problem there?"

Demoiselle

(6,787 posts)

235. I was just trying to figure out a way to say that. Thank you!

Reply to CTyankee (Reply #19)

Mon Apr 1, 2013, 11:00 AM

Apr 2013

Mnpaul

(3,655 posts)

14. The ones carrying assault style rifles

Reply to Kolesar (Original post)

Fri Mar 29, 2013, 08:41 AM

Mar 2013

are toughguy wanna bees. They both look like they have .22 caliber look alike guns. They are basically a .22 caliber with a plastic cover to make them look like an AR-15.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)

52. Err... that's what an AR-15 is?

Reply to Mnpaul (Reply #14)

Fri Mar 29, 2013, 09:46 AM

Mar 2013

Not sure what distinction you're making.

Mnpaul

(3,655 posts)

61. Not even close to an AR-15

Reply to Recursion (Reply #52)

Fri Mar 29, 2013, 10:06 AM

Mar 2013

AR-15 shoots .223. These guns shoot .22LR and are basically just a plastic cover to make them look scary

AR-15 are selling for $1000 and up. These guns sell for $300

There is a big difference. 22LR(left) vs .223(right)

Recursion

(56,582 posts)

67. I've never seen a rimfire with that furniture

Reply to Mnpaul (Reply #61)

Fri Mar 29, 2013, 10:24 AM

Mar 2013

Though i guess it's possible.

Mnpaul

(3,655 posts)

73. Mossberg 715t

Reply to Recursion (Reply #67)

Fri Mar 29, 2013, 10:32 AM

Mar 2013

http://www.mossberg.com/products/rifles/rimfire/mossberg-international-715T

I believe S&W has one as well. They are fairly easy to spot. They are much smaller than the real thing.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)

76. *shrug* looks like the carbine-length upper to me

Reply to Mnpaul (Reply #73)

Fri Mar 29, 2013, 10:33 AM

Mar 2013

Can you get enough pressure to operate the gas system with a rimfire?

Mnpaul

(3,655 posts)

81. It is the same thing as any 22lr semi auto

Reply to Recursion (Reply #76)

Fri Mar 29, 2013, 10:41 AM

Mar 2013

It is your basic semi auto with a plastic cover. No real gas system.

oldhippie

(3,249 posts)

108. The .22LR versions don't use gas ...

Reply to Recursion (Reply #76)

Fri Mar 29, 2013, 11:36 AM

Mar 2013

.... They're straight blowback, like most .22 semi-autos.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)

116. *facepalm* Thank you

Reply to oldhippie (Reply #108)

Fri Mar 29, 2013, 12:13 PM

Mar 2013

Need more coffee

Mnpaul

(3,655 posts)

121. Don't feel bad

Reply to Recursion (Reply #116)

Fri Mar 29, 2013, 12:41 PM

Mar 2013

I have watched one auction house try to sell one of these online 3 times. The buyer doesn't want to pay when he sees what he is really getting. I saw it sell for $600, $450, $400 and they are only around $300 new.

Paladin

(28,276 posts)

80. As if .22 LR rim-fires aren't lethal. You lose.

Reply to Mnpaul (Reply #61)

Fri Mar 29, 2013, 10:37 AM

Mar 2013

If it is a .22LR, disguised to look scary, what does that say about the emotional makeup of the person bearing such a weapon? Here, let me help you: it ain't positive.

I hope the gun rights militants never, ever figure out how damaging open-carry is to their cause.

Mnpaul

(3,655 posts)

97. I lose?

Reply to Paladin (Reply #80)

Fri Mar 29, 2013, 11:12 AM

Mar 2013

methinks you missed the point of my post and you lose.

Did you miss the part about "tough guy wanna bees"?

shedevil69taz

(512 posts)

128. 22 LR isn't leathal?

Reply to Paladin (Reply #80)

Fri Mar 29, 2013, 01:04 PM

Mar 2013

I suppose like any firearm it would depend a lot on where you were hit with the round, but a 22 that hits someone in the head actually has potential to cause for damage to the brain than other larger caliber rounds. The reason is the 22 will not exit but simply bounce around inside the skull.

haele

(12,681 posts)

(3,655 posts)

119. It does matter

Reply to Erose999 (Reply #111)

Fri Mar 29, 2013, 12:35 PM

Mar 2013

All someone had to do is walk up to them and say "what, can't you afford to buy the real thing?" and laugh at them. You empower them by freaking out over it.

Squinch

(51,022 posts)

174. This is not freaking out. This is anger at an asshole. There's a difference.

Reply to Mnpaul (Reply #119)

Fri Mar 29, 2013, 05:45 PM

Mar 2013

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)

214. This is known as the "gunner trivia technical diversion". NT.

Reply to Mnpaul (Reply #14)

Sat Mar 30, 2013, 08:58 AM

Mar 2013

Mnpaul

(3,655 posts)

218. Sorry, not a gun owner

Reply to Warren Stupidity (Reply #214)

Sat Mar 30, 2013, 12:22 PM

Mar 2013

Guess again. Instead of freaking out over these wanna bees, you should be laughing at them. You are only giving them the attention they seek.

(7,981 posts)

17. Fucking trolls

Reply to Kolesar (Original post)

Fri Mar 29, 2013, 08:54 AM

Mar 2013

marions ghost

(19,841 posts)

18. This kind of intimidation

Reply to Kolesar (Original post)

Fri Mar 29, 2013, 08:54 AM

Mar 2013

--this is why people fear opposing gun nazis.

They got the POW-A. Be very afraid.

This is why we have to stand up to them.

Go Moms.

Robb

(39,665 posts)

20. "Gun rights" DUers, this is who you stand with.

Reply to Kolesar (Original post)

Fri Mar 29, 2013, 08:57 AM

Mar 2013

Disgusting.

cherokeeprogressive

ProgressiveProfessor

(22,144 posts)

89. Keep pushing false scale with bad numbers...it does not help your position in the least

Reply to baldguy (Reply #85)

Fri Mar 29, 2013, 10:58 AM

Mar 2013

Botany

(70,589 posts)

109. How long have you played for the knights?

Reply to ProgressiveProfessor (Reply #89)

Fri Mar 29, 2013, 11:46 AM

Mar 2013

Progressive dog

(6,920 posts)

222. Scale with concept

Reply to ProgressiveProfessor (Reply #82)

Sun Mar 31, 2013, 11:00 AM

Mar 2013

Ha ha, wouldn't it be more like confusing quantitative with qualitative by trying to change the subject from quantity.
So quantity doesn't matter is what you claim. btw 38 killed by ALL dogs in US in 2012. And that is a huge increase, usually fewer.
Dogs are biological (i.e. living things) guns are manufactured. But you must protect your guns at all costs.

northoftheborder

(7,574 posts)

96. Thank you for your point well made.

Reply to baldguy (Reply #79)

Fri Mar 29, 2013, 11:11 AM

Mar 2013

baldguy

(36,649 posts)

102. No, it's not well made. It's a sledgehammer.

Reply to northoftheborder (Reply #96)

Fri Mar 29, 2013, 11:19 AM

Mar 2013

Unfortunately, some people are too stupid or too wedded to the extremist RW mentality that it's still not enough.

northoftheborder

(7,574 posts)

172. sorry, should have known to stay out of a fist-fight. my post was posted under the wrong comment.

Reply to baldguy (Reply #102)

Fri Mar 29, 2013, 05:09 PM

Mar 2013

never mind.

CincyDem

(6,390 posts)

153. Update since you posted earlier today

Reply to baldguy (Reply #79)

Fri Mar 29, 2013, 03:25 PM

Mar 2013

X X X X

I didn't see them in your count. Averaging 18/day since December 14, 2012 so I figure there's 4 more since you're post.

Sheesh

Imagine if I had the cure for cancer...guaranteed...100% cure...but it killed 18 people per day. I couldn't give it away. When will this country learn.

baldguy

(36,649 posts)

180. Some of us learn; we empathize with those suffering under the tyranny of gun violence.

Reply to CincyDem (Reply #153)

Fri Mar 29, 2013, 06:11 PM

Mar 2013

Others don't, and seemingly never will as long as it's only someone else's children being killed.

(36,649 posts)

(51,666 posts)

105. We're sick and tired of you thugs trying to intimidate us.

Reply to cherokeeprogressive (Reply #35)

Fri Mar 29, 2013, 11:29 AM

Mar 2013

You are BULLIES and TERRORISTS.

I am "this close" to joining the "ban all guns" camp. You just keep pushing.

WinniSkipper

(363 posts)

110. And this is why the pro-control movement is in trouble

Reply to kestrel91316 (Reply #105)

Fri Mar 29, 2013, 11:47 AM

Mar 2013

All emotion

147. Are you saying that there are not people openly and clearly calling for it?

Reply to devilgrrl (Reply #144)

Fri Mar 29, 2013, 02:53 PM

Mar 2013

Response to ProgressiveProfessor (Reply #147)

devilgrrl This message was self-deleted by its author.

ProgressiveProfessor

(22,144 posts)

149. Those that are making the call for confiscation are justifying those fears

Reply to devilgrrl (Reply #148)

Fri Mar 29, 2013, 03:01 PM

Mar 2013

and providing a rational basis for them.

Response to ProgressiveProfessor (Reply #149)

devilgrrl This message was self-deleted by its author.

ProgressiveProfessor

(22,144 posts)

152. Those who make such call are the creating and justifying the fears

Reply to devilgrrl (Reply #150)

Fri Mar 29, 2013, 03:21 PM

Mar 2013

and create the fear mongering on both sides. Its the crazies/radicals on both sides that cause much of this.

My guns are totally safe...not worried about them in the least.

NK can cause a great deal more mischief that you seem to realize.

Response to ProgressiveProfessor (Reply #152)

devilgrrl This message was self-deleted by its author.

ProgressiveProfessor

(22,144 posts)

157. NK is unstable and they are desperate

Reply to devilgrrl (Reply #155)

Fri Mar 29, 2013, 03:38 PM

Mar 2013

Can't say the same about the others, then or now.

Not suggesting preemptive strikes or anything stupid like that, just that they are armed, hungry, and unstable. Never a good combination.

Saw some posts here earlier suggesting we carpet bomb them with food and warm clothing. I like the idea, but given their current leadership they would shoot down the cargo planes.

Squinch

(51,022 posts)

177. Those that are carrying loaded guns to a "moms" protest are justifying a lot more fears.

Reply to ProgressiveProfessor (Reply #149)

Fri Mar 29, 2013, 06:01 PM

Mar 2013

(51,022 posts)

184. I think you are kidding yourself about which is widely seen as more irresponsible,

Reply to ProgressiveProfessor (Reply #183)

Fri Mar 29, 2013, 06:42 PM

Mar 2013

moronic, and potentially dangerous.

Also don't look now, but your opinion about loss of support from the middle is no more relevant than mine about the equivalence of the arguments. It's also no less relevant. We could say "it's not relevant" about virtually all of the opinions voiced on DU. But what would be the point of that?

I am guessing we will not agree on these topics.

neverforget

46. Concealed carry isn't much different.

Reply to hack89 (Reply #43)

Fri Mar 29, 2013, 09:40 AM

Mar 2013

hack89

(39,171 posts)

68. Only if you are scared of things you can't see and don't know are there. nt

Reply to baldguy (Reply #46)

Fri Mar 29, 2013, 10:24 AM

Mar 2013

baldguy

(36,649 posts)

83. People who feel the need to carry a gun act differently when they do.

Reply to hack89 (Reply #68)

Fri Mar 29, 2013, 10:46 AM

Mar 2013

People who want to carry a gun when they have no need to, do so out of fear. Having a gun gives them a false sense of protection, makes them more aggressive, more liable to try to intimidate the people they encounter, and of course more likely pull it out in inappropriate situations.

If you're carrying a gun, you're an asshole by definition.

Phillip McCleod

(1,837 posts)

90. 'If you're carrying a gun, you're an asshole by definition.'

(22,144 posts)

141. Because LEOs deal with the bad guys, who can be violent, on society's behalf

Reply to oldhippie (Reply #138)

Fri Mar 29, 2013, 02:34 PM

Mar 2013

Last edited Fri Mar 29, 2013, 04:07 PM - Edit history (1)

At least that is the theory

ProgressiveProfessor

(22,144 posts)

132. What defines need? LEOs carry all the time, "needed" or not

Reply to baldguy (Reply #129)

Fri Mar 29, 2013, 01:59 PM

Mar 2013

What is your template that certifies need? What state or Fedeal organization certifies or accredits "need". Does anyone need a pit bull?

Its only a false equivalence since it exposes your lack of consistency.

I love dogs and abhor BSL, but I am also consistent.

ProgressiveProfessor

(22,144 posts)

71. Concealed carry is totally different

Reply to baldguy (Reply #46)

Fri Mar 29, 2013, 10:29 AM

Mar 2013

If no one can see it, how can it intimidate or scare anyone?

Robb

(39,665 posts)

88. You vote with them on gun issues.

Reply to hack89 (Reply #43)

Fri Mar 29, 2013, 10:54 AM

Mar 2013

You disagree with one tactic, perhaps one aspect of the gun debate.

But you stand with them. Meaningless parsing notwithstanding.

hack89

(39,171 posts)

93. Every politician I have voted for is pro-gun control

Reply to Robb (Reply #88)

Fri Mar 29, 2013, 11:02 AM

Mar 2013

I live in a state with some of the toughest gun control laws in America. We already have universal background checks for example.

I support universal background checks and limits on magazine size. I support all of the president's EOs.

I am not a single issue voter. And to be honest, when it comes to guns, I don't have to much to be concerned about. None of the proposed legislation is retroactive - if for example the AWB were to pass, I would still keep all my rifles. So I can vote for pro-gun control politicians because there are bigger issues that are of greater concern to me. Issues that require Democrats in power.

Union Scribe

(7,099 posts)

123. .

Reply to Robb (Reply #88)

Fri Mar 29, 2013, 12:49 PM

Mar 2013

Demonizing people here, who are agreeing with you, does nothing but show pettiness.

(39,665 posts)

164. My favorite bit was when you said "I'm with Obama."

Reply to Union Scribe (Reply #162)

Fri Mar 29, 2013, 04:21 PM

Mar 2013

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)

57. Exactly right, despite the pathetic protestations

Reply to Robb (Reply #20)

Fri Mar 29, 2013, 09:52 AM

Mar 2013

All gunners are like this, either secretly or in public. Assholes.

WillyT

(72,631 posts)

59. + 1,000,000,000 !!! - Bravo !!! - K & R !!!

Reply to Robb (Reply #20)

Fri Mar 29, 2013, 09:53 AM

Mar 2013

Disgusting!

Walk away

(9,494 posts)

103. You are so right! They just let these pond scum do their dirty work for them.

Reply to Robb (Reply #20)

Fri Mar 29, 2013, 11:21 AM

Mar 2013

If they don't get that this is how most of the world see them now then they are going to be really shocked when they become more and more marginalized.

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)

165. "Gun rights" DUers don't actually exist

Reply to Robb (Reply #20)

Fri Mar 29, 2013, 04:21 PM

Mar 2013

They're freeper trolls trying to infiltrate a Democratic message board.

Robb

(39,665 posts)

166. That's called "giving away the ending."

Reply to Cali_Democrat (Reply #165)

Fri Mar 29, 2013, 04:24 PM

Mar 2013

HughBeaumont

(24,461 posts)

22. Children and their "Preshis."

Reply to Kolesar (Original post)

Fri Mar 29, 2013, 09:00 AM

Mar 2013

Stupid shits.

valerief

(53,235 posts)

24. Jon Hamm doesn't feel the need to walk around with a big gun. nt

Reply to Kolesar (Original post)

Fri Mar 29, 2013, 09:03 AM

Mar 2013

Duppers

(28,127 posts)

205. You got it. +100

Reply to valerief (Reply #24)

Sat Mar 30, 2013, 03:39 AM

Mar 2013

yup!

Last edited Fri Mar 29, 2013, 11:39 AM - Edit history (1)

it's because (or at least for me) of how some of us gun owners on DU are treated - I can't speak for others who don't go out, who are capable of doing so. For me, it's financial. I can't afford the time off from work, nor the money it takes to travel - plus I have a small child and I will not take her to a protest of any kind - especially because of idiots like these in the article.

I wish more DU'ers took the time to hear some of the gun owners out instead of jumping down our throats with insults - you haven't done that to me, and I appreciate that.

Edit:

never mind...I just read through more of the thread....over and out - again - because in here, apparently, I'm a person who has a small dick (even though I'm a woman) and I have blood on my hands for just owning guns. Even though they're locked up and put away safely and haven't even been used in at least 10 years, and have never been used for anything but targeting. This thread is exactly why you don't hear from those of us who are gun owners, who want better laws in place to keep guns out of the hands of people who shouldn't have them - from background checks to limiting magazines, types of bullets, guns etc...we get lumped into the same group as the assholes in the article, when we are far from what they are.

- Peace.

Union Scribe

(7,099 posts)

122. Lumping different people together is what

Reply to Maine-ah (Reply #54)

Fri Mar 29, 2013, 12:44 PM

Mar 2013

internet posters are best at. We can only hope that the extremists on both ends don't torpedo any chance at changes in policy.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)

130. I am glad to hear from you.

Reply to Maine-ah (Reply #54)

Fri Mar 29, 2013, 01:26 PM

Mar 2013

I am chilled by what you said regarding taking your child where there are, in your words, "idiots like these in the article." So you have been intimidated, as one of the other women in the article said she was. Obviously, this is why these men did this. That is an outrage and an insult to us women.

I really don't care if you have guns to target shoot, as long as you store them properly, and you are not a felon or have mental issues that should keep you from owning a gun. I would never have a gun but I wouldn't say you had blood on your hands. But what I would do is urge you to find a way you CAN join with those in common cause to have better gun safety in this country. I doubt if one of the groups such as the one in this article, would tell you that you couldn't contribute your efforts to the cause. In fact, a good case can be made that it won't happen without people like you joining forces for better gun safety.

Give it some thought. And good luck to you and your daughter...

(14,255 posts)

98. Or started shooting people.........

Reply to TheCowsCameHome (Reply #31)

Fri Mar 29, 2013, 11:13 AM

Mar 2013

TheCowsCameHome

(40,169 posts)

125. Hopefully the nearest guy with a weapon.

Reply to djean111 (Reply #98)

Fri Mar 29, 2013, 12:52 PM

Mar 2013

Botany

(70,589 posts)

32. I wondered what was up yesterday

Reply to Kolesar (Original post)

Fri Mar 29, 2013, 09:17 AM

Mar 2013

I saw a man from a local gun range and store going into local
grocery store w/ his 9 mm automatic on his hip.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,199 posts)

34. Thugs. nt

Reply to Kolesar (Original post)

Fri Mar 29, 2013, 09:20 AM

Mar 2013

Tree-Hugger

(3,370 posts)

37. Here, too

Reply to Kolesar (Original post)

Fri Mar 29, 2013, 09:28 AM

Mar 2013

There was a Demand Action event not too far from my little corner of SE PA. Of course, assholes had to come "counterprotest" with their guns. There was also a pro-gun rally a few weeks ago, complete with the misappropriated "Don't Tread on Me" flags, fellating of the 2nd Amendment and quite a few people with their rifles strapped to their backs.

bowens43

(16,064 posts)

38. Once again the gun fetishists show us that a total ban is the only acceptable solution nt

Reply to Kolesar (Original post)

Fri Mar 29, 2013, 09:29 AM

Mar 2013

(12,608 posts)

42. jerks

Reply to Kolesar (Original post)

Fri Mar 29, 2013, 09:33 AM

Mar 2013

DFW

(54,445 posts)

47. The intruders " insisted that they had a right to carry"

Reply to Kolesar (Original post)

Fri Mar 29, 2013, 09:43 AM

Mar 2013

They also had the right to walk barefoot, in shorts and wearing Bozo the Clown masks.

That doesn't mean they had any need to.

fitman

(482 posts)

48. There is a guy

Reply to Kolesar (Original post)

Fri Mar 29, 2013, 09:43 AM

Mar 2013

who wears his sidearms on our local jogging trail....The trail is in a town of 5000 people and our last murder was 17 or 18 years ago.. and very little crime..maybe an occasional break in etc.

Total paranoid idiot..

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)

66. "Total paranoid idiot.."

Reply to fitman (Reply #48)

Fri Mar 29, 2013, 10:23 AM

Mar 2013

It's ALL about fear.

erpowers

(9,350 posts)

51. What I noticed

Reply to Kolesar (Original post)

Fri Mar 29, 2013, 09:44 AM

Mar 2013

Although the crowd gathered for Moms Demand Action was not massive there were far more of them than members of Moms Against Gun Control. In addition, while it seemed there were more women than men at the rally for Moms Demand Action there were more men than women at the Moms Against Gun Control rally. Maybe the Moms Against Gun Control group should change its name if more men than women show up for the rally-even if it is just a 2-1 or 3-1 margin. It seems that maybe the name of your group should not start with moms if the majority of the people who show up at your rally are not women.

Harriety

(298 posts)

55. These idiots with their guns keep yapping about their rights being taken away?

Reply to Kolesar (Original post)

Fri Mar 29, 2013, 09:52 AM

Mar 2013

What about the rights of all the people who have been killed in this country with guns? They make me sick! I read some comments yesterday by happy enthusiasts (same comments I have heard since President Obama was elected) about him taking away their freedom and how he's now using the victims of Newton to suit his own political purpose to take their freedom to own guns. Well, "news flash" gun nuts, you're paranoia is destroying your own freedom.

firenewt

(298 posts)

56. I HATE living in Indiana. My state is quickly becoming the land of the idiots, home of the

Reply to Kolesar (Original post)

Fri Mar 29, 2013, 09:52 AM

Mar 2013

terminally stupid. The state is trying to implement all the 'goodies' the RW assholes want for the entire country. It's like the whole state is being used as a testing ground for seeing how far things can be pushed to the right. Vaginal ultra sounds, school vouchers can be used for any type of education outside of public schools, no longer enforcing the 'concealed' part of concealed carry, trying to force out the elected headed of schools because the governor doesn't like her and on and on. I would move but I can't. Anybody have a room for a grumpy old man?

mountain grammy

(26,656 posts)

64. I felt that way about Colorado for a long time, but look at us now..

Reply to firenewt (Reply #56)

Fri Mar 29, 2013, 10:17 AM

Mar 2013

We're blue! Hang in there and keep working and this can happen. We still have plenty of idiots, but somehow, even with our lousy education system, liberals are gaining ground. Now, I'm not saying all state Dems are liberal, but we're getting there. Andrew Romanoff has a shot at getting that fool Mike Coffman out of the Congress.

firenewt

(298 posts)

113. Can't happen here in Indiana. No reason for progressive people to move here. The scenery sucks,

Reply to mountain grammy (Reply #64)

Fri Mar 29, 2013, 12:00 PM

Mar 2013

no tech industry to speak of, legislation that will keep a large number of people from even considering moving here - as stated by a number of large employers. Living here sort of sucks unless you are a GOP/TP'er.

Brigid

(17,621 posts)

58. There are only two purposes for this:

Reply to Kolesar (Original post)

Fri Mar 29, 2013, 09:53 AM

Mar 2013

1. Intimidation.
2. Trying to start something.

Assholes.

KG

(28,753 posts)

62. gun bullies

Reply to Kolesar (Original post)

Fri Mar 29, 2013, 10:15 AM

Mar 2013

Arcanetrance

(2,670 posts)

70. I have no objection to counter demonstrations or even a debate on being for or against gun control

Reply to Kolesar (Original post)

Fri Mar 29, 2013, 10:28 AM

Mar 2013

But the fact that they showed up armed with the sole purpose to intimidate shows their argument is weak and has no merits.

ProgressiveProfessor

(22,144 posts)

74. Part of me wonders if they were really loaded

Reply to Kolesar (Original post)

Fri Mar 29, 2013, 10:32 AM

Mar 2013

You really cannot tell without checking the chamber

olddots

(10,237 posts)

75. This is going to very ugly

Reply to Kolesar (Original post)

Fri Mar 29, 2013, 10:32 AM

Mar 2013

ugly for responsible gun owners and anti gun people .

All it takes is one of these guys to go twitchy and think life is a action movie .Very Ugly.

warrior1

(12,325 posts)

78. these "men" should be ashamed for this behavior

Reply to Kolesar (Original post)

Fri Mar 29, 2013, 10:35 AM

Mar 2013

marions ghost

(19,841 posts)

190. More than ashamed

Reply to warrior1 (Reply #78)

Fri Mar 29, 2013, 07:29 PM

Mar 2013

they should be escorted away in handcuffs.

This is NOT home protection, personal protection, or hunting.

This is use of weapons to threaten, to prevent freedom of expression, and to create a disturbance.

This has got to be outlawed.

Initech

(100,105 posts)

91. Classless assholes.

Reply to Kolesar (Original post)

Fri Mar 29, 2013, 10:58 AM

Mar 2013

LittleGirl

(8,291 posts)

92. One reason I left Indiana

Reply to Kolesar (Original post)

Fri Mar 29, 2013, 11:00 AM

Mar 2013

despite it being my 'home' state. There are some many idiots in that state like this. I don't freaking miss it.

ReRe

(10,597 posts)

95. Ideas for the Moms for next & future protests:

Reply to Kolesar (Original post)

Fri Mar 29, 2013, 11:08 AM

Mar 2013

Idea #1: sew up some gun sleeves that look like penises. Have some of their husbands come and bring their unloaded rifles with the penis sleeves over the guns. Have husbands stand stoically by the counter-protesters with guns.

Idea #2: (a variation on #1): sew up some giant penises and fill them with poly-fill. Have husbands hold them and stand next to counter-protesters and mimic their stance and facial expressions.

Idea #3: have all the women carry baby dolls in front baby pouches. That way they can use their hands to hold their signs and watch their step.

Idea #4: Get artsy-fartsy and everyone carry double-sided signs... protest words on one side and stick children on the opposite side. Someone carry a referee's whistle and every time the whistle is blown, rotate the signs to the other side.

Of course, call the news media/TV stations and tell them what you are going to do. Demand that they be there to record this important peaceful non-violent protest on this controversial hot issue. Also, have the women march in a big circle around the wooses with the guns. I would lay odds that the wooses with guns will high-tail it out of there if they see the cameras & TV stations.

Walk away

(9,494 posts)

99. Keep it up Gun Lovers! It's down hill from here for you...

Reply to Kolesar (Original post)

Fri Mar 29, 2013, 11:16 AM

Mar 2013

your slippery slope is just beginning and you brought yourselves here. The more like violent and threatening goons you act the sooner we will see the end of you.

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)

100. Ooooooohhh brave dude against women.....

Reply to Kolesar (Original post)

Fri Mar 29, 2013, 11:16 AM

Mar 2013

...with his manhood strapped to his chest.

Carrying loaded weapons in public is a good idea? As if there haven't been enough unintended accidents?

KansDem

(28,498 posts)

101. Is there symbolism in play here?

Reply to Kolesar (Original post)

Fri Mar 29, 2013, 11:19 AM

Mar 2013

albatross around/round your neck (literary)
something that you have done or are connected with that keeps causing you problems and stops you from being successful
http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/albatross+around+neck

Union Scribe

(7,099 posts)

163. It's more like they're hanging around our neck

Reply to KansDem (Reply #101)

Fri Mar 29, 2013, 04:08 PM

Mar 2013

A pack of Tea Party extremists insisting we must all regress with them.

Edit: sorry, that may have been the interpretation you meant. Either way, you're right.

blackspade

(10,056 posts)

zaireeka

(31 posts)

140. Neither left nor right...

Reply to datasuspect (Reply #137)

Fri Mar 29, 2013, 02:31 PM

Mar 2013

There are folks in all camps on all sides of this issue/argument/problem.

I am just a big fan of the law of unintended consequences.

Squinch

(51,022 posts)

179. Like when the government comes to the compound and takes the women? Because

Reply to zaireeka (Reply #140)

Fri Mar 29, 2013, 06:11 PM

Mar 2013

the "Liberty Fighters" aren't able to protect them without their guns?

That's always inconvenient.

zaireeka

(31 posts)

187. Or...

Reply to Squinch (Reply #179)

Fri Mar 29, 2013, 07:14 PM

Mar 2013

When the racist cop decides that you are causing too much trouble registering people to vote or getting people organized.

That's REALLY inconvenient-and has REALLY happened.

(90,837 posts)

(10,002 posts)

192. In their minds

Reply to Cali_Democrat (Reply #167)

Fri Mar 29, 2013, 07:45 PM

Mar 2013

They are such badasses that they have to bring a .44 in the bathroom. Just in case they shit a wildcat!

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)

171. Men With Loaded Rifles show up at rally to prove....

Reply to Kolesar (Original post)

Fri Mar 29, 2013, 04:52 PM

Mar 2013

The need for stricter gun control. Or an outright ban if that is where they want to go.

AsahinaKimi

(20,776 posts)

173. I guess they didnt see the

Reply to Kolesar (Original post)

Fri Mar 29, 2013, 05:12 PM

Mar 2013

Jim Carrey video.

Skittles

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Paladin

(28,276 posts)

233. Yeah, that "gun control is historically racist" used to be a staple of theirs.

Reply to devilgrrl (Reply #230)

Mon Apr 1, 2013, 09:10 AM

Apr 2013

Not so much now, since the NRA's efforts against armed black militants started being reported. Kind of like the "bump-firing" video they were all jerking off to down in the Gungeon a while back---you don't see that one, ever since the Newtown massacre.....

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