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Squinch

(50,954 posts)
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 08:35 AM Mar 2013

Let's list some First World Problems for those who like to suggest that they are trivial.

I'll start:

Massacres of schoolchildren

Record numbers of Americans living in the kind of poverty that makes it difficult or impossible to feed and house their families

Women losing control over their bodies in state after state, region after region

Americans being disenfranchised by the intentional theft of their votes

People being subjected to violence and discrimination and hate due to their gender, skin color, religion or politics


Who's next??


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Let's list some First World Problems for those who like to suggest that they are trivial. (Original Post) Squinch Mar 2013 OP
People not able to get basic health care, including vision and dental care. nt raccoon Mar 2013 #1
No, that's a third-world problem. First-rate Countries all have national health plans. Scuba Mar 2013 #2
No minimum paid leave for sickness or vacation. Benton D Struckcheon Mar 2013 #3
We have lots of guns, in the hands of irresponsible boston bean Mar 2013 #4
First World problems SamKnause Mar 2013 #5
Good list! Squinch Mar 2013 #7
List SamKnause Mar 2013 #8
Big banks and all their pillaging of the fruits of OUR working hours Squinch Mar 2013 #6
Nuclear energy, weapons, contamination and disposal. Octafish Mar 2013 #9
This is silly response to clifford's op cali Mar 2013 #10
Really. boston bean Mar 2013 #11
What are you saying? Benton D Struckcheon Mar 2013 #12
not sure how you are taking it. Please explain that to me. boston bean Mar 2013 #14
1 in 3 women a day? Benton D Struckcheon Mar 2013 #17
yeah, i meant 3 women a day. thanks for pointing out my error. it's been fixed. boston bean Mar 2013 #18
huh? Are you saying that their are 3 women a day murdered in the U.S and cali Mar 2013 #16
3 women a day are murdered by their partner in the US. boston bean Mar 2013 #19
There are cultural reasons for virtually everything. cali Mar 2013 #24
Yes, something is wrong here... XRubicon Mar 2013 #21
As a response to that OP it's very weak Benton D Struckcheon Mar 2013 #13
No. Squinch Mar 2013 #20
In my experience, "first world problems" Union Scribe Mar 2013 #15
I am noticing that the phrase is beginning to be used Squinch Mar 2013 #23
first world problems, in the sense the term is normally used quinnox Mar 2013 #22

boston bean

(36,221 posts)
4. We have lots of guns, in the hands of irresponsible
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 08:45 AM
Mar 2013

gun owners, illegal purchases, and murders, accidental shootings, and suicides.

Ah but it's in the U.S.A. GO USA!!!!!!

SamKnause

(13,107 posts)
5. First World problems
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 08:47 AM
Mar 2013

Corrupt government that represents the needs of corporations and ignores the needs of it's people, forcing millions into poverty.

A justice system that is out of the reach of the majority and protects the needs and wants of the rich and powerful.

A Supreme Court that gave corporations more rights than living breathing humans.

War, constant war mongering, invasions, occupations and drone attacks have bankrupted the U.S. government and created untold enemies.

Two tier justice system compliments of Eric Holder.

Creationism being forced into public schools.

Tax dollars being used for charter schools that teach creationism.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
9. Nuclear energy, weapons, contamination and disposal.
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 09:04 AM
Mar 2013

Other than that, nuclear power generation, generally.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
10. This is silly response to clifford's op
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 09:04 AM
Mar 2013

He was addressing a specific issue: that of women's rights.

And although it's certainly true that women are losing and have lost the right to choice in many states, it's hardly the same as the oppression of women that he was referencing.

boston bean

(36,221 posts)
11. Really.
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 09:06 AM
Mar 2013

3 women murdered by their partner a day here in the US.

No, they weren't stoned and the government didn't do it, yet still 3 a day. Something is wrong here, isn't it.

Benton D Struckcheon

(2,347 posts)
12. What are you saying?
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 09:17 AM
Mar 2013

1 in 3 murdered women were murdered by their partners? Except in that case your second sentence doesn't make any sense. Please clear up what you meant.

boston bean

(36,221 posts)
14. not sure how you are taking it. Please explain that to me.
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 09:20 AM
Mar 2013

Then maybe I can address what you need me to. I thought it was pretty clear. But I'm more than willing to clarify if I can discern the need for clarity on your part.

Benton D Struckcheon

(2,347 posts)
17. 1 in 3 women a day?
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 09:30 AM
Mar 2013

I'm pretty sure you must mean 1 in 3 women who die by violence are murdered by their partners, but in that case the "a day" part makes no sense. One way of reading it would be that 1 in 3 women are killed every day by their partners, which would mean all would be dead in three days. Obviously that makes no sense.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
16. huh? Are you saying that their are 3 women a day murdered in the U.S and
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 09:26 AM
Mar 2013

that out of those three, one is a murder by a woman's partner? I'm not quite clear on what you're actually claiming here. In any case, as you point out, this is not government sponsored in any way. Yes, something is wrong when it comes to violent crime in the U.S., but that doesn't make your point, which seems to be that it's just as bad for women here as compared to elsewhere in the world.

boston bean

(36,221 posts)
19. 3 women a day are murdered by their partner in the US.
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 09:33 AM
Mar 2013

That is what I meant.

Are you saying you see no cultural reason for this?

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
24. There are cultural reasons for virtually everything.
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 10:31 AM
Mar 2013

I'm not sure what that's supposed to prove in the context of your post.

Benton D Struckcheon

(2,347 posts)
13. As a response to that OP it's very weak
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 09:19 AM
Mar 2013

...but as a listing of what we in the US have to put up with that folks in the rest of the industrialized world don't (no universal med care, no paid leave, out of control gun nuts) it's a good idea.

Squinch

(50,954 posts)
20. No.
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 09:34 AM
Mar 2013

This is a response to a number of posters across a host of issues who have begun to use "this is a first world problem" as a way of dismissing the issues that they don't like. It's a way of saying, "Your concerns are petty and irrelevant. You are spoiled."

Clifford was just the latest to do this.

Your annoyance with this OP is a first world problem. That doesn't make your annoyance irrelevant.

Union Scribe

(7,099 posts)
15. In my experience, "first world problems"
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 09:25 AM
Mar 2013

is a phrase used to describe something like, "I kicked the remote off the bed, now I have to get it or watch this infomercial."

Have DUers actually given that treatment to the things in your OP? Or is this an objection to the meme itself?

Squinch

(50,954 posts)
23. I am noticing that the phrase is beginning to be used
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 09:45 AM
Mar 2013

here as a way to shut down discussion or dismiss the opinions of others.

In that usage, it's pretty destructive, both for its incivility and for the fact that it minimizes the very real problems that we need to work on here.

 

quinnox

(20,600 posts)
22. first world problems, in the sense the term is normally used
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 09:38 AM
Mar 2013

1. Arguing over "bad" or politically incorrect words on internet message boards
2. Judging harshly what people in other cultures might do, from the comfort of suburbia America
3. Being concerned over trivialities like whether people feel sufficiently guilty of having white or male "privilege"

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