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The Straight Story

(48,121 posts)
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 01:58 PM Mar 2013

Man Tattoos His Pitbull: Acceptable Or Animal Cruelty?


Man Tattoos His Pitbull: Acceptable Or Animal Cruelty?


A tattoo artist, disabled Iraq War veteran, and father of three in North Carolina, Ernesto Rodriguez, is under fire for tattoing his pitbull, Duchess. The incident drew attention after Rodriguez posted a (now removed) photo of Duchess’s tattoo on his Facebook page. The tattoo is on five-month-old Duchess’s underbelly and Rodriguez claims the symbol is of her bloodline and meant to identify her.

The Stokes County Health Department and Animal Control department investigated but filed no charges. Rodriguez was, however, issued a cease-and-desist order for tattoing humans without a proper permit.

Rodriguez told local news media:

“I didn’t just plop her on the bed and tattoo her. She was already [on] on anesthetics. She was asleep, completely asleep. And I even used topical anasthetic, too, on top of that, on the skin. So she didn’t feel anything. She got up, she’s been fine. I love my dogs.”

http://www.mediaite.com/online/man-tattoos-his-pitbull-acceptable-or-animal-cruelty/
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Man Tattoos His Pitbull: Acceptable Or Animal Cruelty? (Original Post) The Straight Story Mar 2013 OP
Not acceptable. Dog is a pet who doesn't have ability to say no. graham4anything Mar 2013 #1
And yet a parent can chop part of an infant human's body off and very few think anything of it Fumesucker Mar 2013 #7
I am Jewish and do not find your response to me acceptable. graham4anything Mar 2013 #8
I don't think it matters whether or not you "find it acceptable". sibelian Mar 2013 #34
Not acceptable. enlightenment Mar 2013 #2
please reread article barbjhix Mar 2013 #9
You're right - they didn't. enlightenment Mar 2013 #24
the vet tattoed both of our dogs when they were spayed notadmblnd Mar 2013 #3
Same with my cat Retrograde Mar 2013 #31
I would never put a mark on my dog notadmblnd Mar 2013 #36
Well, one national pet identification program MineralMan Mar 2013 #4
+1 Iggo Mar 2013 #19
Tail docking and ear cutting is cruel. roody Mar 2013 #28
I have seen the pigs they practice on. Go Vols Mar 2013 #5
Those poor little piggies! That must have hurt! Auntie Bush Mar 2013 #16
Those are some radical-looking pigs. nt MineralMan Mar 2013 #20
My cat sports ink, a tiny letter S which indicates she has been spayed. Bluenorthwest Mar 2013 #6
my cats ear was lopped off to identify her as fixed feral Liberal_in_LA Mar 2013 #12
I hope you mean 'notched' CurtEastPoint Mar 2013 #14
the top inch cut off Liberal_in_LA Mar 2013 #17
I try not to do anything that might hurt or stress xchrom Mar 2013 #10
this boils dow to if you like tattoos on anything . olddots Mar 2013 #11
I'd have a hard time reconciling banning this with allowing cats to be declawed... JVS Mar 2013 #13
If she was already under anesthesia and he took medical care with it afterwards, sweetNsassy Mar 2013 #15
Far less cruel than many things we regularly do to dogs. No big deal. Docking tails, cropping ears, Egalitarian Thug Mar 2013 #18
It was a bit much to conduct this tattooing in an Olive Garden in NYC, though alcibiades_mystery Mar 2013 #21
You were right to jack this thread. ElboRuum Mar 2013 #23
Specially when I was trying to get a little breast feeding in. cliffordu Mar 2013 #27
As a means of identification nadinbrzezinski Mar 2013 #22
My German Shepherd has a tattoo. Helen Reddy Mar 2013 #25
They've been tattooing horses under their lips for fifty years or so, IIRC.... cliffordu Mar 2013 #26
This message was self-deleted by its author Dash87 Mar 2013 #29
If he can prove it's an ID that would lead her back to him Warpy Mar 2013 #30
I'm not crazy about this idea but the practice of declawing cats has me much more upset. n/t MadrasT Mar 2013 #32
In Lancaster County PA, this is common practice. justiceischeap Mar 2013 #33
No different than ear modification or tail docking. Or extreme grooming even. alphafemale Mar 2013 #35
I guess my question is, phylny Mar 2013 #37
 

graham4anything

(11,464 posts)
1. Not acceptable. Dog is a pet who doesn't have ability to say no.
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 02:07 PM
Mar 2013

I can see the need for farmers with herds (though I am not a fan of that either), but someone doing this to a pet is not acceptable.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
7. And yet a parent can chop part of an infant human's body off and very few think anything of it
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 02:34 PM
Mar 2013

I guess dogs have more rights than people.



sibelian

(7,804 posts)
34. I don't think it matters whether or not you "find it acceptable".
Sun Mar 31, 2013, 07:34 AM
Mar 2013

Either you're capable of addressing the point or you're not.

enlightenment

(8,830 posts)
2. Not acceptable.
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 02:09 PM
Mar 2013

He's an arse. I'm glad the dog was removed from his "care" and I hope they can prevent him from having other animals.

barbjhix

(1 post)
9. please reread article
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 02:38 PM
Mar 2013

The dog was NOT removed from his "care", it was the Facebook picture that was removed.

Tattooing dogs has been going on for the past 20+ years as a means of identification prior to micro chipping. They would either tattoo the inside of a dogs leg or the inside of an ear with the owners social security number as a means of identification.

I never had one of my pure breed dogs tattooed, but I knew breeders that did - I didn't agree with it and I don't agree with putting an animal thru unnecessary pain - but I also do what ever I can to identify my dogs in case they get out so that they make it home to me again.....but as the owner pointed out, the dog was asleep and he used a local deaden-er

I think he went a little over board doing a design as a means of identification, but tattooing as a means of identification is not that unusual.....trust me.

enlightenment

(8,830 posts)
24. You're right - they didn't.
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 09:06 PM
Mar 2013

They should have.

Tattooing a small identifying mark - done by a professional (which this man is not or he would not have been issued a cease-and-desist for tattooing people without a permit) under proper, sanitary conditions - is one thing.

What he did is unacceptable.

The OP asked for an opinion. I gave mine.

notadmblnd

(23,720 posts)
3. the vet tattoed both of our dogs when they were spayed
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 02:16 PM
Mar 2013

it's a green one inch line near the incision. I guess it's to let animal control know if they were ever to be picked up by them

Retrograde

(10,137 posts)
31. Same with my cat
Sun Mar 31, 2013, 12:15 AM
Mar 2013

She was spayed at the local animal shelter, and got a tattoo to indicate it (somewhere under all that fur).

A lot of animals are tattooed for identification purposes - race horses come to mind - but it's done by vets rather than the owners.

notadmblnd

(23,720 posts)
36. I would never put a mark on my dog
Sun Mar 31, 2013, 11:46 AM
Mar 2013

but I would never do it to myself either. Tattoos are one thing that has never appealed to me. Multiple piercings is another.

MineralMan

(146,316 posts)
4. Well, one national pet identification program
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 02:21 PM
Mar 2013

uses tattoos. They predate the chips that are now the most popular pet ID system.

http://www.nationaldogregistry.com/tattoo.html

That's different, of course, than a decorative tattoo, but we do lots of things to dogs, like tail-docking and ear trimming. Never mind the silly haircuts, either.

I wouldn't do that, but apparently some people think it's OK.

Auntie Bush

(17,528 posts)
16. Those poor little piggies! That must have hurt!
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 03:10 PM
Mar 2013

I can't imagine they gave these piggies anesthesia ever time they tattooed them...that alone is cruel and dangerous. Tattoos are very painful to receive and I don't see how they could have held the pig still without anesthesia.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
6. My cat sports ink, a tiny letter S which indicates she has been spayed.
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 02:32 PM
Mar 2013

All the animals rescued from the shelter she came from are marked in that way for their protection.

xchrom

(108,903 posts)
10. I try not to do anything that might hurt or stress
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 02:41 PM
Mar 2013

Or cause my dogs undue hurt or cause for concern on their part.

A decorative tattoo - absolutely not.
A swat on the bottom for raiding the kitchen counter - probably.

But really I just want them to be Happy and never far from my sight.

JVS

(61,935 posts)
13. I'd have a hard time reconciling banning this with allowing cats to be declawed...
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 02:45 PM
Mar 2013

or cattle to be branded.

 

sweetNsassy

(64 posts)
15. If she was already under anesthesia and he took medical care with it afterwards,
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 03:10 PM
Mar 2013

I don't see a big problem with it. I sure wouldn't do it though.

 

Egalitarian Thug

(12,448 posts)
18. Far less cruel than many things we regularly do to dogs. No big deal. Docking tails, cropping ears,
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 03:15 PM
Mar 2013

even such grooming practices as stripping rough coated terriers, are all much worse.

ElboRuum

(4,717 posts)
23. You were right to jack this thread.
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 03:36 PM
Mar 2013

I can see this only going the way of Chuggo with a side of cornflakes.

Well... if we must we must... bring on the refreshments.

cliffordu

(30,994 posts)
26. They've been tattooing horses under their lips for fifty years or so, IIRC....
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 09:23 PM
Mar 2013

What about branding Horses and cattle??? I helped brand three calves one afternoon.

A COMPLETELY FUCKED WAY TO DO THINGS.

A ton more painful and MUCH harder on the animal than giving a dog a tattoo while the pup is under.

I do NOT support such efforts, but still, a little perspective here.






Response to The Straight Story (Original post)

Warpy

(111,266 posts)
30. If he can prove it's an ID that would lead her back to him
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 11:12 PM
Mar 2013

if she's lost, I don't think they've got much of a case.

After all, some vet practices tattoo cats and dogs to indicate they've been spayed. Others notch ears.

justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
33. In Lancaster County PA, this is common practice.
Sun Mar 31, 2013, 07:10 AM
Mar 2013

Instead of buying a tag that hangs from a collar (that may get lost), vets tattoo a personal ID number on dogs and cats. My dogs' was 8675309 and that number was registered so should Dante get lost, they could find me.

 

alphafemale

(18,497 posts)
35. No different than ear modification or tail docking. Or extreme grooming even.
Sun Mar 31, 2013, 07:56 AM
Mar 2013

Had a Welsh Terrier that used to hide under the table for a long time after being groomed to breed specs. (They like Airedales are normally a very dense haired dog. Sheep like almost.)

We would let his hair grow out for the winter....then do the shave down leaving the face whiskers in the summer.

And you could see that the dog thought he looked ridiculous. lol

phylny

(8,380 posts)
37. I guess my question is,
Sun Mar 31, 2013, 12:21 PM
Mar 2013

do tatoos hurt afterward? In other words, as they're healing, does the person/animal still have pain? If so, for how long?

If the answer is yes, there is pain, then I think it shouldn't have been done.

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