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cal04

(41,505 posts)
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 03:06 PM Mar 2013

GOP Lawmakers In North Carolina Want To Make It Harder To Get A Divorce

http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/gop-lawmakers-in-north-carolina-want-to-make

Two Republican legislators in North Carolina are proposing a bill that would make it even more difficult for couples in the state to get a divorce, the News & Observer reported Friday.
http://www.newsobserver.com/2013/03/29/2788814/nc-legislators-propose-more-rigorous.html

The Healthy Marriage Act, sponsored by state Sens. Austin Allran (R) and Warren Daniel, would extend the waiting period to two years before a divorce in the state would become finalized. North Carolinians already have to wait one year before they are granted a divorce.

During the two year waiting period, the law would require couples to take courses designed improve communication skills and conflict resolution. Couples with children would have to take a four hour course on the negative effects that divorce can have on kids.

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It would also strike from the current law a provision that says “isolated incidents of sexual intercourse” don’t count against the one-year waiting period. It’s not clear if that means an occasional fling with your estranged partner does count against you under the proposed law.
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GOP Lawmakers In North Carolina Want To Make It Harder To Get A Divorce (Original Post) cal04 Mar 2013 OP
Great! This just gives two opposing law firms an extra year to....... wandy Mar 2013 #1
I would interpret the "don't count against....." to mean Swede Atlanta Mar 2013 #2
I don't trust republicans to write legislation in this regard. liberal_at_heart Mar 2013 #4
How about courses for kids living in a toxic household... WorseBeforeBetter Mar 2013 #3

wandy

(3,539 posts)
1. Great! This just gives two opposing law firms an extra year to.......
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 03:29 PM
Mar 2013

add up charges as they run every play in the devoice law play book.
Oh, and the additional profit to be made from counseling, child counseling and make pretend courses.
Not to mention increasing the chances that one partner or the other may find themselves caught up in the highly profitable criminal system.

 

Swede Atlanta

(3,596 posts)
2. I would interpret the "don't count against....." to mean
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 05:20 PM
Mar 2013

that under the current one-year waiting period, if you have "isolated" incidents of sexual intercourse with your estranged spouse, it does not reset the clock to another one-year waiting period.

if that is the case I would expect under the new proposed legislation if you go 1 year 11 months and 25 days of separation with no "nookie" and give in for a last night of passion, the two-year clock starts ticking again.

In light of the prevalence of divorce and not just one divorce and re-marriage among America's heterosexuals, the GOP's opposition to same-gender marriage is arguably disingenuous if the intent is to protect the "sanctity" of marriage.

That said, it is true that in most states divorce has become routine with some couples treating divorce like writing a Dear John letter. Nevada boasts hotel programs that promise a divorce over a weekend. Kim Kardashian is not the only celebrity whose marriage lasted only a matter of hours or days.

That suggests that some couples enter into marriage without any sense of gravitas. Here today, gone tomorrow.... I am certainly not opposed to a state taking measures to raise the seriousness of marriage. The marriage licensing process itself may not cost the state much but the costs of divorces, property settlements and child custody cost the states billions.

At the end of the day if you have two individuals who have concluded their relationship is irreparably broken, there is no sense in holding these individuals in a legal status neither of them want at least as long as there are no children involved.

But that said, if Republicans want to strengthen marriage they need to not just make divorce more difficult or throw tax and other benefits into the mix. They need to craft policies that help families. That means investment and a commitment to families.

As a Swedish-American I am appalled at how little public policy interjects itself into such matters as maternity and paternity leave, childcare, pediatric care, etc. The argument is these are matters best left to "the market" where employees and employers are free to make these decisions. While one may argue that affording a couple up to as much as one year of parental leave at better than 60% of salary is overkill, the difference with the U.S. system is stark.

You don't protect and promote marriage and family by preventing same-gender individuals from marrying or from keeping two persons locked in a legal relationship for two years. You promote and protect these institutions by investing in them, by adopting policies that strengthen the families by giving parents time to bond with a newborn, to have access to affordable pre-natal and post-natal/pediatric care, access to affordable childcare, pre-K programs, etc.

liberal_at_heart

(12,081 posts)
4. I don't trust republicans to write legislation in this regard.
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 05:29 PM
Mar 2013

What happens when a man blames the woman for the disillusion of the marriage because she pays too much attention to her career and not enough time taking care of babies or doesn't communicate well because she doesn't agree with what the head of house hold(the man) says should happen? They will find a way to punish the women more than the men.

WorseBeforeBetter

(11,441 posts)
3. How about courses for kids living in a toxic household...
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 05:28 PM
Mar 2013

with parents who can't stand each other?

First the nipple ban, now this. Go NC GOP!

P.S. WHERE ARE THE JOBS?!

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