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RockaFowler

(7,429 posts)
Thu Apr 4, 2013, 03:36 PM Apr 2013

Rest in Peace Roger Ebert

Suntimes: It is with a heavy heart we report that legendary film critic Roger Ebert (@ebertchicago) has passed away

I can't believe that. I know that he mentioned yesterday that the cancer had returned for him, but I had no idea that he was going to pass away so soon afterwards.

So sad. You will be missed Mr. Ebert

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Rest in Peace Roger Ebert (Original Post) RockaFowler Apr 2013 OP
Job well done Mr. Ebert warrior1 Apr 2013 #1
He struggled long and hard against this awful disease. RIP Hoyt Apr 2013 #2
Oh, no... CaliforniaPeggy Apr 2013 #3
So sad. What an amazing man. RIP n/t FreeState Apr 2013 #4
Oh, I wasn't expecting this so soon. Laurian Apr 2013 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl Apr 2013 #6
A wonderful human. n/t UTUSN Apr 2013 #7
R.I.P. zappaman Apr 2013 #8
I, too, am shocked frazzled Apr 2013 #9
Same here malaise Apr 2013 #45
I read the same thing yesterday and sit here in shock. Rex Apr 2013 #10
Damn blogslut Apr 2013 #11
Gentle Crossing Roger HangOnKids Apr 2013 #12
A really great loss for us all.. He will be missed SoCalDem Apr 2013 #13
Damn it. Didn't always agree with him but enjoyed his writing and commentary. KittyWampus Apr 2013 #14
One of the most insightful people of our age. Prism Apr 2013 #15
oh shit Beaverhausen Apr 2013 #16
oh how awful dsc Apr 2013 #17
Damn... WillyT Apr 2013 #18
He was the nicest person. greatauntoftriplets Apr 2013 #19
The world has lost a good man. demmiblue Apr 2013 #20
He loved movies and championed them BrotherIvan Apr 2013 #21
:( shenmue Apr 2013 #22
A thumbs-up for this fine human, we'll miss you Roger Blue Owl Apr 2013 #23
+1 Auggie Apr 2013 #31
Oh, no Canuckistanian Apr 2013 #24
Here's to you, Roger. classof56 Apr 2013 #25
SHit...I just saw that...very sad. joeybee12 Apr 2013 #26
I knew it would be sooner rather than later Warpy Apr 2013 #27
RIP Mr. Ebert. Little Star Apr 2013 #28
The balcony is closed... Aristus Apr 2013 #29
The guy apreciated the idea of a movie made for the popcorn crowd.... Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2013 #30
I give him 4 stars for direction, writing, and production. And, an equal number for goodguyness. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2013 #32
Such sad news, it came so fast too. R-I-P Mr. Ebert. You will Raine Apr 2013 #33
Wow.... Taverner Apr 2013 #34
Thank you for posting this... I hadn't read it before. n/t demmiblue Apr 2013 #36
Bon voyage, Roger Ebert... hunter Apr 2013 #37
thank you. just the right thing to post right now renate Apr 2013 #39
RIP to a national treasure... YoungDemCA Apr 2013 #35
In 1966 or 7 he wrote a column for the Daily Illini which I read when I was at U of I. Stuart G Apr 2013 #38
R.I.P to a gentle giant and cultural icon. BumRushDaShow Apr 2013 #40
Oh no! City Lights Apr 2013 #41
very sad Blue_Roses Apr 2013 #42
RIP, Roger ProudToBeBlueInRhody Apr 2013 #43
Two Thumbs UP Brainstormy Apr 2013 #44
RIP screenwriter of Beyond the Valley of the Dolls... n/t PoliticAverse Apr 2013 #46
I'll always remember him and Gene Siskel. Moostache Apr 2013 #47
I own almost all of his books, ballabosh Apr 2013 #48
He was a major player and his absence will be felt Rowdyboy Apr 2013 #49

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,640 posts)
3. Oh, no...
Thu Apr 4, 2013, 03:40 PM
Apr 2013

I am devastated to hear this sad news.

I had not expected this at this time.

He was a great thinker, and writer. His clear vision will be missed...

Response to RockaFowler (Original post)

zappaman

(20,606 posts)
8. R.I.P.
Thu Apr 4, 2013, 03:42 PM
Apr 2013

He helped me love, understand, and appreciate film when I watched his PBS show as a teenager.
Bummer.

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
9. I, too, am shocked
Thu Apr 4, 2013, 03:42 PM
Apr 2013

I know this illness was an uphill battle, but yesterday's message had prepared me for something at least a little longer in duration.

You done good, Roger, and you really did bring kindness into the world. You probably don't remember, but we had dinner together probably 20 years ago. Maybe we'll do it again 20 years from now, up there.

 

Prism

(5,815 posts)
15. One of the most insightful people of our age.
Thu Apr 4, 2013, 03:46 PM
Apr 2013

The man knew the human heart and the human mind like no other writer I've ever read. His passing will leave a hole in the best part if American culture.

BrotherIvan

(9,126 posts)
21. He loved movies and championed them
Thu Apr 4, 2013, 03:55 PM
Apr 2013

Many small, independent filmmakers have him specifically to thank for their careers. He taught people to love GOOD movies too, for which many in my industry are also thankful. Sadly, there are very few like him as the industry sinks into the cesspool.

Thank you, Mr. Ebert.

Warpy

(111,277 posts)
27. I knew it would be sooner rather than later
Thu Apr 4, 2013, 04:01 PM
Apr 2013

His was a wonderful voice, even after it had been robbed from him and we had to imagine it from his typed words.

He will be missed. The world is a much poorer place without him.

Aristus

(66,388 posts)
29. The balcony is closed...
Thu Apr 4, 2013, 04:03 PM
Apr 2013

Goodbye, Mr. Ebert. A nation of avid moviegoers will miss you terribly.

I've rarely seen someone deal with cancer as bravely and as humorously as Roger Ebert. He was a national treasure...

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
30. The guy apreciated the idea of a movie made for the popcorn crowd....
Thu Apr 4, 2013, 04:08 PM
Apr 2013

Siskel often trashed movies that were made just for fun as if he took a wrong turn on the way to the opera.

 

Taverner

(55,476 posts)
34. Wow....
Thu Apr 4, 2013, 04:24 PM
Apr 2013

I just read this....

------------------------------------------

I do not fear death

I will pass away sooner than most people who read this, but that doesn't shake my sense of wonder and joy
By Roger Ebert

Topics: Memoirs, Cancer, Books, Life News, Entertainment News
Roger Ebert was always a great friend of Salon's. We're deeply saddened by reports of his death, and are re-printing this essay, from his book "Life Itself: A Memoir," which we think fans will take particular comfort in reading now.

I know it is coming, and I do not fear it, because I believe there is nothing on the other side of death to fear. I hope to be spared as much pain as possible on the approach path. I was perfectly content before I was born, and I think of death as the same state. I am grateful for the gifts of intelligence, love, wonder and laughter. You can’t say it wasn’t interesting. My lifetime’s memories are what I have brought home from the trip. I will require them for eternity no more than that little souvenir of the Eiffel Tower I brought home from Paris.

I don’t expect to die anytime soon. But it could happen this moment, while I am writing. I was talking the other day with Jim Toback, a friend of 35 years, and the conversation turned to our deaths, as it always does. “Ask someone how they feel about death,” he said, “and they’ll tell you everyone’s gonna die. Ask them, In the next 30 seconds? No, no, no, that’s not gonna happen. How about this afternoon? No. What you’re really asking them to admit is, Oh my God, I don’t really exist. I might be gone at any given second.”

Me too, but I hope not. I have plans. Still, illness led me resolutely toward the contemplation of death. That led me to the subject of evolution, that most consoling of all the sciences, and I became engulfed on my blog in unforeseen discussions about God, the afterlife, religion, theory of evolution, intelligent design, reincarnation, the nature of reality, what came before the big bang, what waits after the end, the nature of intelligence, the reality of the self, death, death, death.

Many readers have informed me that it is a tragic and dreary business to go into death without faith. I don’t feel that way. “Faith” is neutral. All depends on what is believed in. I have no desire to live forever. The concept frightens me. I am 69, have had cancer, will die sooner than most of those reading this. That is in the nature of things. In my plans for life after death, I say, again with Whitman:

I bequeath myself to the dirt to grow from the grass I love,

If you want me again look for me under your boot-soles.

And with Will, the brother in Saul Bellow’s “Herzog,” I say, “Look for me in the weather reports.”

Raised as a Roman Catholic, I internalized the social values of that faith and still hold most of them, even though its theology no longer persuades me. I have no quarrel with what anyone else subscribes to; everyone deals with these things in his own way, and I have no truths to impart. All I require of a religion is that it be tolerant of those who do not agree with it. I know a priest whose eyes twinkle when he says, “You go about God’s work in your way, and I’ll go about it in His.”

What I expect to happen is that my body will fail, my mind will cease to function and that will be that. My genes will not live on, because I have had no children. I am comforted by Richard Dawkins’ theory of memes. Those are mental units: thoughts, ideas, gestures, notions, songs, beliefs, rhymes, ideals, teachings, sayings, phrases, clichés that move from mind to mind as genes move from body to body. After a lifetime of writing, teaching, broadcasting and telling too many jokes, I will leave behind more memes than many. They will all also eventually die, but so it goes.

O’Rourke’s had a photograph of Brendan Behan on the wall, and under it this quotation, which I memorized:

I respect kindness in human beings first of all, and kindness to animals. I don’t respect the law; I have a total irreverence for anything connected with society except that which makes the roads safer, the beer stronger, the food cheaper and the old men and old women warmer in the winter and happier in the summer.

That does a pretty good job of summing it up. “Kindness” covers all of my political beliefs. No need to spell them out. I believe that if, at the end, according to our abilities, we have done something to make others a little happier, and something to make ourselves a little happier, that is about the best we can do. To make others less happy is a crime. To make ourselves unhappy is where all crime starts. We must try to contribute joy to the world. That is true no matter what our problems, our health, our circumstances. We must try. I didn’t always know this and am happy I lived long enough to find it out.

One of these days I will encounter what Henry James called on his deathbed “the distinguished thing.” I will not be conscious of the moment of passing. In this life I have already been declared dead. It wasn’t so bad. After the first ruptured artery, the doctors thought I was finished. My wife, Chaz, said she sensed that I was still alive and was communicating to her that I wasn’t finished yet. She said our hearts were beating in unison, although my heartbeat couldn’t be discovered. She told the doctors I was alive, they did what doctors do, and here I am, alive.

Do I believe her? Absolutely. I believe her literally — not symbolically, figuratively or spiritually. I believe she was actually aware of my call and that she sensed my heartbeat. I believe she did it in the real, physical world I have described, the one that I share with my wristwatch. I see no reason why such communication could not take place. I’m not talking about telepathy, psychic phenomenon or a miracle. The only miracle is that she was there when it happened, as she was for many long days and nights. I’m talking about her standing there and knowing something. Haven’t many of us experienced that? Come on, haven’t you? What goes on happens at a level not accessible to scientists, theologians, mystics, physicists, philosophers or psychiatrists. It’s a human kind of a thing.

Someday I will no longer call out, and there will be no heartbeat. I will be dead. What happens then? From my point of view, nothing. Absolutely nothing. All the same, as I wrote to Monica Eng, whom I have known since she was six, “You’d better cry at my memorial service.” I correspond with a dear friend, the wise and gentle Australian director Paul Cox. Our subject sometimes turns to death. In 2010 he came very close to dying before receiving a liver transplant. In 1988 he made a documentary named “Vincent: The Life and Death of Vincent van Gogh.” Paul wrote me that in his Arles days, van Gogh called himself “a simple worshiper of the external Buddha.” Paul told me that in those days, Vincent wrote:

Looking at the stars always makes me dream, as simply as I dream over the black dots representing towns and villages on a map.

Why, I ask myself, shouldn’t the shining dots of the sky be as accessible as the black dots on the map of France?

Just as we take a train to get to Tarascon or Rouen, we take death to reach a star. We cannot get to a star while we are alive any more than we can take the train when we are dead. So to me it seems possible that cholera, tuberculosis and cancer are the celestial means of locomotion. Just as steamboats, buses and railways are the terrestrial means.

To die quietly of old age would be to go there on foot.

That is a lovely thing to read, and a relief to find I will probably take the celestial locomotive. Or, as his little dog, Milou, says whenever Tintin proposes a journey, “Not by foot, I hope!”

renate

(13,776 posts)
39. thank you. just the right thing to post right now
Thu Apr 4, 2013, 05:19 PM
Apr 2013

It's perfect. I don't feel the same way about what happens after death, but his version is beautiful and I won't mind if it turns out to be correct. He was a smart guy, after all.

You will be so missed, Roger.

 

YoungDemCA

(5,714 posts)
35. RIP to a national treasure...
Thu Apr 4, 2013, 04:26 PM
Apr 2013

70 seems altogether too young to pass.

But, his life was well lived.

RIP.

Stuart G

(38,436 posts)
38. In 1966 or 7 he wrote a column for the Daily Illini which I read when I was at U of I.
Thu Apr 4, 2013, 05:13 PM
Apr 2013

It was this essay against apartheid. He had traveled to South Africa and wrote this scathing column against it. I never forgot that.
Somehow the way he wrote stuck in my head then and now. I once wrote him about that many years later, he responded with a kind letter....
He was always a progressive ..always.. a great human being..

Brainstormy

(2,380 posts)
44. Two Thumbs UP
Thu Apr 4, 2013, 06:13 PM
Apr 2013

For elevating movies to serious consideration in the mind of at least one literary arts snob. For the courage to show us your face in the face of cancer. For the example of good humor, good sense, and enthusiasm as an approach to art, aging, and life. Thank you, Roger Ebert. You’ll be missed.

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
47. I'll always remember him and Gene Siskel.
Thu Apr 4, 2013, 11:42 PM
Apr 2013

Gene Siskel had a summer home near the area I grew up in. One enduring memory of childhood was walking through the area on a summer night and seeing them together through the open windows of the beach cottage....engaged in what looked like a furious debate of some kind, but also with an aura of friendship.

May their memory live on long after today.

ballabosh

(330 posts)
48. I own almost all of his books,
Fri Apr 5, 2013, 12:52 AM
Apr 2013

And he is one of the best, insightful and funniest critics. I love him. If you haven't read his compilations of the bad reviews he's given, do it; you will laugh. And his book on Scorsese's movies is wonderful.

We'll miss you, Mr. Ebert.

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