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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWE ARE "FDR" DEMS! ...Thanks to all the DU'ers WHO KICKED UP ...and Responded!
To these two Posts: OBAMA GOT THE MESSAGE...and even though it "looks like Boehner Shot Him Down...It was his own Repugs and the Left of the Democratic Party that shot down that BARGAIN between the DEMS AND REPUGS to Punish "SS" with "Chained CPI" and to do the other Dirty Deeds in that Bargain!
The FIGHT WON'T END NOW...just because Boehner wouldn't Accept Obama's "Grand Bargain" ...it will CONTINUE.
All those who Phoned WH and SIGNED PETITIONS should know that IT'S IMPORTANT WHAT YOU ALL DID... AND...it caused BOTH PARTIES TO PAUSE!
KEEP IT UP...Because IT DID MAKE A DIFFERENCE!
to all... and
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022614332
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022616814
There are THOSE HERE on DU..who want to say we FDR DEMS are some kind of Obama Haters or worse. BUT...WE KNOW WHO WE ARE...and DON'T MESS WITH US ANYMORE!
forestpath
(3,102 posts)MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)Great work!
KoKo
(84,711 posts)xchrom
(108,903 posts)DearHeart
(692 posts)FDR DEMS!!!
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)process. The Pres didnt change his mind.
KoKo
(84,711 posts)Says the "Strategy" didn't work! But, it still means we've gotta keep working...but this was a Trial Baloon sent up by Obama...and Boehner shot it Down. Because the "FDR" Dems got up in Arms and Boehner heard it from the Repugs on the Right...and the whole thing STUNK SO BAD that it went down.
We aren't going to hear that from MSM...they will say it was just the Dem Left (the Group Rahm Hates)...but think about how fast Boehner responded! So...it was a Proposal that Dems hated so bad and even the REPUGS couldn't tolerate.
SO...it was a VICTORY...but only for now... It will begin again after the Keystone Pipeline is Approved...and they will really go for BROKE the Next TIME against SS...so we have to be aware to start the "Call WH, Petition Sign and DO WHATEVER WE CAN to stop SS/MEDICARE AND MEDICAID getting RAIDED in the name of AUSTERITY.
AnotherMcIntosh
(11,064 posts)KoKo
(84,711 posts)that BOTH DEMS & REPUG...VOTING SENIORS...hated the thing so bad that it went down....
But, Are BOTH holding out for worse? Well...look at the track record of both Dems under Harry Reid in Senate and the Repugs in both Senate and House!
It's gonna be the two sides carving it up. So...this was the first THREAT...that got SHOT DOWN by both Parties.. But, I fear "more wicked things...come our way."
Here's the post Joan Walsh wrote on SALON: The whole article with the AARP Poll is interesting. And, Joan Walsh is a "Centrist Dem" so for her to write this says she really wants to get Obama's Attention.
Because...he will Hurt Dems in 2014 Election with this stunt he just pulled.
Here's the link to Salon article:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022626119
blkmusclmachine
(16,149 posts)Next time, let's vet the Candidates first. No more (R)'s running as (D)'s, PLEASE!!! No more Third Way/DLC/New Democrats, all euphemisms for GOP-lite.
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)the angry and disgruntled folks on DU will start to put forward "true" progressive candidates for 2016?
I keep waiting to see it.
Iwillnevergiveup
(9,298 posts)but proud to repeat it: Whitehouse for the White House.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)global1
(25,253 posts)AnotherMcIntosh
(11,064 posts)the came from the Senate and purportedly was more electible.
KoKo
(84,711 posts)and I don't think ANY OF US...ever wanted or expected this.
Let's hope that Obama will learn from this. He's had so much support so far...but this was too far. His advisers need to be FIRED...or something.
limpyhobbler
(8,244 posts)KoKo
(84,711 posts)been through to do this effort once again...after how we "FDR" Dems have been treated. But, we will stand up again...when it gets bad enough that the Troops are needed. I know this was the "last stand" for many...and some won't be with us...but some still will have to do it...because the options are so horrible we won't want to live with them.
But...for this effort it was a VICTORY...and the PTB (Powers that Be) are going to have to re-assess just how far they went with this horrible Chained CPI being put out as Trial Baloon to once again catch our President and Repugs in some kind of hideous death dance that HURTS AND HARMS...the PEOPLE...that VOTED FOR THEM!
Holding our Elders as HOSTAGE in this GRAND BARGAIN was a MISTAKE. And both Parties need to be re-assessed for making the ELDERLY their Power Struggle. It's cruel to the elderly their children and to our Whole Society!
limpyhobbler
(8,244 posts)We should stay fired up like this all the time we might be able to make the government do things we want.
L0oniX
(31,493 posts)Comrade_McKenzie
(2,526 posts)But would have defended FDR tooth and nail, even when criticized for not going far enough.
KoKo
(84,711 posts)awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)Liberalynn
(7,549 posts)and for your efforts. I am an FDR DEM too.
RoccoR5955
(12,471 posts)UnrepentantLiberal
(11,700 posts)JimDandy
(7,318 posts)1-Old-Man
(2,667 posts)President Obama isn't much more than Bush light if you ask me.
UBEEDelusional
(54 posts)Be prepared for the onslaught of the bots for posting the truth.
99Forever
(14,524 posts)... in my letters to Senators Franken and Klobuchar, I made it quite clear that if Obama's Grand Betrayal becomes law, I will hold the entire Democratic Party responsible for it happening. A politician being a Republican is already toxic to me, so I will be left with only two options, voting for 3rd party candidates or not voting(which isn't really an option at all.) That I should have to even consider this from a President that claims to be a Democrat, is disgusting, but there it is.
abelenkpe
(9,933 posts)1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)an FDR's Congress. FDR was able to do all he did BECAUSE he had a super majority in both Houses and a retty non-existent opposition.
Give President Obama that and I doubt we would hear anything about a CCPI.
abelenkpe
(9,933 posts)sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)tularetom
(23,664 posts)He's not gonna give up on this and even if he did, the liberal media will now describe him as the "Democrat president who proposed cutting social security".
And even worse, Boner's rejection of the offer will be portrayed as a defense of SS: "Obama wanted to cut it but Boner said no!"
Remember when Obama said something like - "the voters have to make me do the right thing"? I can understand that, I just wish we didn't have to keep doing it all the time.
Riley18
(1,127 posts)Just yesterday I discussed FDR with my 5th Grade students. Some had traveled to DC at one time or another, but none knew what the FDR breadline statues represented. When they heard that at that time people had no way to get food because there were no social safety nets, they were stunned. I think the reason social studies is not a "tested" subject with our corporate run testing system is because the less each generation knows, the easier it is to take us backwards.
KoKo
(84,711 posts)Agree and I think that there are forces at work who want FDR's New Deal to vanish into the background for their own ends.
I'm so glad to hear that you discussed FDR with your 5th Graders!
hootinholler
(26,449 posts)I was one, but then Manny straightened me out about that liar.
life long demo
(1,113 posts)I think I am naive believing that all Democrats were FDR Democrats, how could we not be? I voted for Pres. Obama twice. The first time was an honor to vote for him. The second time was to keep romney out of the White House. What has happened to my Democratic party?
calimary
(81,323 posts)His programs are what still make me proud to be a DEM.
L0oniX
(31,493 posts)Oilwellian
(12,647 posts)But even Republicans love his programs.