the parties may have swung to the right, but I don't believe the people have. What we are seeing isthe effect of money and corporatism on politicians.

YES, it most definitely has. The Christian Science Monitor claimed that Obama's SS proposal was a "move to the center" on what planet is proposing cuts to SS a "move to the center," when the majority of Americans overwhelmingly oppose those cuts? Actually, the MSM is making it very clear: the people don't matter at all.

I find when I quietly talk to many of my friends, we have the same basic beliefs, but they have been serious influenced to believe what the media says. I am hyper liberal and many claim they are tea party - i claim they have no idea what that means.

I have to be gentle with these people, we are an older group and they just watch FOX too much. I try to get them to see we agree and that they have been given false information. I did convince one to vote for Democrats in the last election even though she is pure anti abortion rabid voter. How? By stressing that there needs to be a quality of life after these babies are born.

Here is what the MAJORITY of Americans (Democrats AND Republicans) want from OUR government!

In recent polls (2005!) by the Pew Research Group, the Opinion Research Corporation, the Wall Street Journal, and CBS News, the American majority has made clear how it feels. Look at how the majority feels about some of the issues that you'd think would be gospel to a real Democratic Party:

1. 65 percent (of ALL Americans, Democrats AND Republicans) say the government should guarantee health insurance for everyone -- even if it means raising taxes.

2. 86 percent favor raising the minimum wage (including 79 percent of selfdescribed "social conservatives&quot .

3. 60 percent favor repealing either all of Bush's tax cuts or at least those cuts that went to the rich.

4. 66 percent would reduce the deficit not by cutting domestic spending but by reducing Pentagon spending or raising taxes.

5. 77 percent believe the country should do "whatever it takes" to protect the environment.

6. 87 percent think big oil corporations are gouging consumers, and 80 percent (including 76 percent of Republicans) would support a windfall profits tax on the oil giants if the revenues went for more research on alternative fuels.

7. 69 percent agree that corporate offshoring (Free Trade) of jobs is bad for the U.S. economy (78 percent of "disaffected" voters think this), and only 22% believe offshoring is good because "it keeps costs down."

http://alternet.org/story/29788/


8. 92% of ALL Americans support TRANSPARENT, VERIFIABLE elections!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x446445

9. Over 65% OPPOSED A Health Insurance MANDATE without a Public Option.

10. 85 - 92% OPPOSE ANY Cuts to Social Security

I suppose I should have said, party leadership and the media have veered to the right.

Certainly now, the recognition that the 99% are not represented, is something most people can relate to. The recognition
and awareness of corporation's roles in diminishing our lives continues to grow daily.

the 'left' which, like you I believe is in the majority, have been too complacent. I guess we needed to see what is going on now, the attacks on the social safety nets, the continuing Bush policies etc to realize that it's way past time for the majority to get up and start exercising the power we have. And I believe that is finally beginning to happen.

Lefties, contrary to the false image portrayed by the Right, are tough. Once we are committed to something there is no stopping us.

While I am thoroughly disgusted with the current state of affairs, I am feeling very excited for the first time, feeling freer to work for the PEOPLE rather than any specific politician, especially one I am not all that thrilled with out of fear of Republicans, and making sure all my support goes to the most liberal, progressive candidates we can find.

it's not at all about splitting people or the party. It's movement away from atrophy towards a better future and a resurgence of democracy.

Quit responding to slick ads and people like Rush Limbaugh. People have a responsibility to think for themselves and when they don't do it, everyone suffers.

by him. His audience consistes of a small segment of the population who have no ability to think, for themselves or anyone else.

I am concerned about the sneakier, smarter Wall St inventions, such as the Third Way posing as Democrats and attempting to fool Democrats by using a few issues to lure them in, such as abortion eg, which they actually have little interest in, as cover.

They have had a head start, we didn't notice or know anything much about them during the Bush years, other than feeling a bit puzzled about some of the positions they took, on important Democratic issues but overlooked it as we had more to worry about, we THOUGHT, at the time.

The good news is we have had the time to learn a LOT more about them which is the beginning of removing them from our Party.

They've done some damage, they got rid of Glass Steagal which led to the devastating economic crash affecting millions of people. They've attacked the Public School system, made some minor inroads into pushing the long held dream of Wall St to begin the process of destroying our social safety nets. But maybe we are not too late to end their charade and to elect a truly Progressive Congress to begin the process of undoing any harm they've done.

Limbaugh is not even relevant, he's a clown and every one knows it, the others are the real threat to our party and country.

Well Done.....again.




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working within...we need to be loud and clear & visible, because we don't have an endless money supply, they do and they've bought up everything with it including SCOTUS. I'm dumbfounded by those who are in acceptance. Grayson, Sanders & Warren are very visibly voicing their disgust....WTF....people here need to wake up.

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People need to see the alternative. They need to see that there are people looking out for them. Originally Social Security and the Civil Rights Act for instance were very controversial. And both secured the Democratic Party as a force for the mid 20th century.

Let's get some real discussion going on in our national discussion.

Here's a short video on a related subject...

Grayson: 170 Democrats need to get primaried

http://betterment.democraticunderground.com/1017111159

core values are what matters...don't be fooled, we will know them by their actions...