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DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 11:11 PM Apr 2013

A tale of two governments: Boston and Texas

Ok first off, I have often been the person that yells at northern liberals when they dump on Texas. Also, one life= one life, so there cannot and should not be a judgment just because someone came from point a or b.

Now, there is something I think needs looking at.

Boston: liberal (give or take the odd mistake like Mitt Romney.) The culture is used to the idea of spending money on civil servants and infrastructure, even if there is the occasional mishap (like the "Big Dig&quot Terrorist shows up: locals work together, police work together, suspect is caught.

Texas: Conservative. Has a culture hostile to civil servants and infrastructure spending. Big explosion happens, lots of people die. Turns out, instead of terrorists, it was an accident in part due to poor quality inspection. No jail time, no arrests, no hint of a crime, despite a death toll equal to Boston.

Of course, did the folks who ran the ammonia plant plan to lay the bomb in the same way as Tamarlane and Dzophar did? NO, but they damned well knew they were gambling with people's lives.

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A tale of two governments: Boston and Texas (Original Post) DonCoquixote Apr 2013 OP
I believe more people died & were injured in the TX explosion than in the Boston explosions/manhunt LonePirate Apr 2013 #1
The death toll in Texas will be much, much higher. Arugula Latte Apr 2013 #2
It will certainly be a tale of two cities. Baitball Blogger Apr 2013 #7
Yep. LisaL Apr 2013 #8
Much more jollyreaper2112 Apr 2013 #3
Oh I agree DonCoquixote Apr 2013 #4
It's not just that. StrayKat Apr 2013 #5
lets be careful not to downplay boston DonCoquixote Apr 2013 #10
That's not what was said. StrayKat Apr 2013 #11
Conservatives are in denial. Baitball Blogger Apr 2013 #6
At this point 1KansasDem Apr 2013 #9
Nope. Lots of assumptions abound, however. TwilightZone Apr 2013 #13
Texas spends a ton of money on infrastructure. TwilightZone Apr 2013 #12
Tax Structure Completely Different Stallion Apr 2013 #14
if they did not maintain the place DonCoquixote Apr 2013 #15

LonePirate

(13,426 posts)
1. I believe more people died & were injured in the TX explosion than in the Boston explosions/manhunt
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 11:17 PM
Apr 2013

The Texas explosion should be very big news but it has become an afterthought because of terrorism and fear.

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
4. Oh I agree
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 11:35 PM
Apr 2013

and yet, because this was commerce, no charge. Now, if heaven forbid this turns out to be related to the anniversary of the Waco raid, that MAY make news. But the ability to kill dozens of people and not get away with it is a privilege of the rich.

StrayKat

(570 posts)
5. It's not just that.
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 11:36 PM
Apr 2013

The universal and intense coverage of the Boston Marathon tragedies and how the event was perceived as handled is likely to result in the argument that we need to continue or add to more policing and terror prevention programs etc. for an even that is really very rare, sporadic, difficult to predict, and has a relatively low number of victims compared to other threats.

But, the West Texas explosion was actually representative of a wider spread problem that affects more people. Imagine how lives would change on a day to day basis as well as in the event of an accident if as many resources were put into assuring safer workplace conditions as go into fighting terrorism.

The filter that we, as a society, see things through focuses more on urgency than importance. In the long term that may not be a good filter for viewing, identifying, or resolving problems.

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
10. lets be careful not to downplay boston
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 11:54 PM
Apr 2013

Bottom line is, while terrorism is rarer, it is still something that is a threat. We do have every right to demand protection from criminals, especially as these clowns might have had zero support from any established group.

Granted, we need both, and there is no need for "as many resources" we can and should spend on both.

Baitball Blogger

(46,737 posts)
6. Conservatives are in denial.
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 11:44 PM
Apr 2013

They don't want to believe there are long-term consequences when developer property rights are at play. Especially when it involves a business that creates jobs. That trumps all common sense.

1KansasDem

(251 posts)
9. At this point
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 11:46 PM
Apr 2013

does anyone know (for sure) what caused the fire. I'm seeing a lot of speculation here, but the fire is barely out.

TwilightZone

(25,471 posts)
13. Nope. Lots of assumptions abound, however.
Sat Apr 20, 2013, 12:57 AM
Apr 2013

It might be a good idea to wait for an investigation into the cause before assuming we know everything about it.

TwilightZone

(25,471 posts)
12. Texas spends a ton of money on infrastructure.
Sat Apr 20, 2013, 12:53 AM
Apr 2013

High tax base, lots of money, lots of federal assistance. High personal property and sales taxes.

In Austin alone, billions have been spent on new roads, bridges, etc., in just the past few years.

Dallas is home to probably the only freeway interchange in the country that is also a tourist attraction: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Five_Interchange

It's not a coincidence that Texas has some of the highest speed limits in the country. The road system can generally support them.

As for arrests and/or jail time for the West explosion, we should probably have an investigation first, don't you think?

Stallion

(6,476 posts)
14. Tax Structure Completely Different
Sat Apr 20, 2013, 01:08 AM
Apr 2013

Texas has zero income tax protecting high income earners

Texas has high sales tax so that poor pay proportionately than in a progressive income tax

Texas gets substantial tax revenue from big oil and gas reserves

Texas has basically cut off use of gasoline tax at pump by diverting money from road building. Rick Perry's big achievement is relying on toll roads instead of state funding of road construction

Texas is 48 or 49th in many education, social services areas. Rick Perry goal is to surpass Mississippi

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