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Is it cheaper to house a criminal for life or put them to death..... (Original Post) a kennedy Apr 2013 OP
My understanding is that it is actually cheaper avebury Apr 2013 #1
I've heard that too treestar Apr 2013 #2
You two have "heard" and "understood", but do you have sources? Jeremy Almond Apr 2013 #23
It is common type of knowledge, anyone can google and find it treestar Apr 2013 #24
There have been repeated studies showing that the death penalty, incuding all the required legal hlthe2b Apr 2013 #3
I wonder kudzu22 Apr 2013 #17
Taxpayers are obligated to pay for as many appeals as the law allows for those sentenced to death hlthe2b Apr 2013 #19
Point taken kudzu22 Apr 2013 #22
Typically it cost more to go through death penalty process. PeaceNikki Apr 2013 #4
The death penalty has become a very protracted process in the United States. TimberValley Apr 2013 #5
Several years ago, the cost was $40,000 per year to incarcerate. Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #6
It looks like they figure things differently socialindependocrat Apr 2013 #7
Under current conditions, life in prison is cheaper kenny blankenship Apr 2013 #8
"Cost" should NEVER be an argument for or against the DP duffyduff Apr 2013 #9
I'd figure the latter's cheaper, but making justice decisions based on economics is vile. (nt) Posteritatis Apr 2013 #10
I don't care about the cost so much... Kalidurga Apr 2013 #11
Irrelevant question Uzair Apr 2013 #12
You have to include the cost of all the appeals in the death penalty jeff47 Apr 2013 #13
LWOP is MUCH MUCH cheaper. It costs many millions to house somebody on death row, kestrel91316 Apr 2013 #14
I was leaning toward LWOP.....just needed the smart folk here on DU to back it up for me. a kennedy Apr 2013 #15
It is more expensive Orangepeel Apr 2013 #16
Life in prison is cheaper because of our death penalty policies. ZombieHorde Apr 2013 #18
Florida average per death row inmate over 10 years = 4 million. L0oniX Apr 2013 #20
Due to legal expenses, housing for life is cheaper. proud2BlibKansan Apr 2013 #21

avebury

(10,952 posts)
1. My understanding is that it is actually cheaper
Sat Apr 20, 2013, 12:34 PM
Apr 2013

to give them life in prison. When you look at the length of the appeal process, court proceedings, cost of housing them on death row, the cost of a death penalty sentence is pretty expensive.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
2. I've heard that too
Sat Apr 20, 2013, 12:35 PM
Apr 2013

And also another unsettling thought - where people have been cleared by DNA tests, it has been being on death row as a motivator that did a lot towards getting it done.

 

Jeremy Almond

(26 posts)
23. You two have "heard" and "understood", but do you have sources?
Sat Apr 20, 2013, 03:54 PM
Apr 2013

AP: "Turns out, it is cheaper to imprison killers for life than to execute them, according to a series of recent surveys. Tens of millions of dollars cheaper, politicians are learning, during a tumbling recession when nearly every state faces job cuts and massive deficits."

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/29552692/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/t/execute-or-not-question-cost/#.UXLxysp6PIU


treestar

(82,383 posts)
24. It is common type of knowledge, anyone can google and find it
Sat Apr 20, 2013, 06:38 PM
Apr 2013

I've "known" that so long, but if it turns out to be wrong, then I'll learn that. But that it is more expensive to go through the execution process than to keep someone in prison has been a long term assumption. And that when people are on death row they have a better shot at getting DNA evidence reviewed and tested. A life prisoner doesn't have that and may end up at the end of the line. But people have been released from prison when DNA cleared them, on, for instance, rape charges, so it's not a certainty.

hlthe2b

(102,297 posts)
3. There have been repeated studies showing that the death penalty, incuding all the required legal
Sat Apr 20, 2013, 12:35 PM
Apr 2013

appeals, is far more costly than life in prison. No, I don't have time to search for links, but they are out there--I've seen several reported on over the years. Google should help.

kudzu22

(1,273 posts)
17. I wonder
Sat Apr 20, 2013, 01:39 PM
Apr 2013

do they count the appeals of the life sentence in the cost of imprisonment, or just the incarceration/feeding/clothing cost? I mean, death row people appeal their sentences, but so do people who get life, don't they?

hlthe2b

(102,297 posts)
19. Taxpayers are obligated to pay for as many appeals as the law allows for those sentenced to death
Sat Apr 20, 2013, 02:06 PM
Apr 2013

I do not believe that that is the case beyond full trial and perhaps one appeal for those sentenced to prison, though it might vary by state and jurisdiction. Extended appeals for those imprisoned (and indigent) are usually covered by family members, sometimes non-profit legal organizations, law school efforts, etc.

 

TimberValley

(318 posts)
5. The death penalty has become a very protracted process in the United States.
Sat Apr 20, 2013, 12:37 PM
Apr 2013

It takes such a long time for the process to go through, and there is so much other legal work to be done, that I think the death penalty is significantly more costly.



I think the death penalty would only be cheaper if it were an expedited process like that of China's, where death penalties can often be carried out very, very quickly after being issued.

socialindependocrat

(1,372 posts)
7. It looks like they figure things differently
Sat Apr 20, 2013, 12:42 PM
Apr 2013

Here is one answer for the costs for California
This lumps all prisoners together and says that if the
sentences of all those prisoners on death row were
commuted to life sentences they would see an immediate savings.
"The authors calculated that, if the Governor commuted the sentences of those remaining on death row to life without parole, it would result in an immediate savings of $170 million per year, with a savings of $5 billion over the next 20 years."

http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/costs-death-penalty

If you google "costs life vs. death" there are a number of different posts.
I haven't looked at them all but it seems that they calculate the costs
differently. Maybe they all say it's cheaper to give life for 30-40 years.

kenny blankenship

(15,689 posts)
8. Under current conditions, life in prison is cheaper
Sat Apr 20, 2013, 12:46 PM
Apr 2013

But either option could be made the least expensive one, all depending on how we want to do things.
Very rightwing folks would make death a tough item to undercut. "If he's caught red handed, you declare him an enemy combatant, stand him up in front of a court martial, then a firing squad. You can skip the court martial as far, as I'm concerned, and use only one bullet." That's a fairly common sentiment on the right, and it would make death very cheap indeed. It would also make life very cheap.

 

duffyduff

(3,251 posts)
9. "Cost" should NEVER be an argument for or against the DP
Sat Apr 20, 2013, 12:56 PM
Apr 2013

The fact is there is NO foolproof way to guarantee that everybody who is executed is actually guilty of the crime, not even with advances in technology.

The death penalty is NOT acceptable because there is no way to correct a wrong execution.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
11. I don't care about the cost so much...
Sat Apr 20, 2013, 01:00 PM
Apr 2013

But, everything I have read says that life in prison is cheaper. But, I would rather see a life sentence than a death sentence in any case. Death is easy for the perp. Life is much harder.

 

Uzair

(241 posts)
12. Irrelevant question
Sat Apr 20, 2013, 01:06 PM
Apr 2013

Cost shouldn't even come into the discussion. Capital punishment is immoral, uncivilized, does not deter crime, and does not do anything to avenge any victims' families. It's barbaric and serves no purpose other than to satisfy the blood lust of a violent culture. It's beyond past time that America get with the program and join the rest of the civilized world.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
13. You have to include the cost of all the appeals in the death penalty
Sat Apr 20, 2013, 01:13 PM
Apr 2013

It costs about $47k/year to keep a prisoner in jail in California. I assume other states are around the same cost. (http://www.lao.ca.gov/laoapp/laomenus/sections/crim_justice/6_cj_inmatecost.aspx)

The appeals and other legal costs for the death penalty run into the multiple millions of dollars. If it costs $2M, which would be pretty cheap, that's the same cost as holding the prisoner in jail for 42 years.

Add to this the fact that life expectancy is much shorter for people in prison, and it turns out life in prison is cheaper.

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
14. LWOP is MUCH MUCH cheaper. It costs many millions to house somebody on death row,
Sat Apr 20, 2013, 01:15 PM
Apr 2013

go through decades of appeals, and then execute.

You didn't know this?? I though everybody knew by now - it's been reported and discussed on DU often enough.

a kennedy

(29,675 posts)
15. I was leaning toward LWOP.....just needed the smart folk here on DU to back it up for me.
Sat Apr 20, 2013, 01:33 PM
Apr 2013
and once again thanks DU, you're the best.

Orangepeel

(13,933 posts)
16. It is more expensive
Sat Apr 20, 2013, 01:38 PM
Apr 2013

The state spends lots of money in not always successful attempts to get it right. The trials are more expensive, the appeals process is more expensive, and people are on death row for a long time (costing as much during this time as it would if they were in prison without the possibility of parole).

In spite of the extra precautions, there have been many people exonerated after being sentenced to death.

The death penalty is irreversible, unfairly applied, an ineffective deterrent, and *still* costs more money.

Here are some fact sheets from Maryland's recent fight to repeal the death penalty:

http://www.mdcase.org/node/52

ZombieHorde

(29,047 posts)
18. Life in prison is cheaper because of our death penalty policies.
Sat Apr 20, 2013, 01:40 PM
Apr 2013

People who receive a death sentence are allowed more appeals in order to help avoid executing the wrong person. The extra appeals are very expensive because of all of the professionals involved.

 

L0oniX

(31,493 posts)
20. Florida average per death row inmate over 10 years = 4 million.
Sat Apr 20, 2013, 02:09 PM
Apr 2013

Includes all court costs, appeals, prison and execution costs.

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