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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsZubeidat Tsarnaeva: "My boy was killed really cruelly!" Well, sorry, Mom ...
but shit happens. The innocent people who suffered the carnage inflicted by your "loving boy" could probably tell you a thing or two about cruelty. Given a choice, some of them might have even preferred to catch a round in the 10 ring over looking down to see that they were missing a limb or two via traumatic amputation.
treestar
(82,383 posts)She must know her other boy was involved, to say the least.
What about the 8 year old's other.
This woman sounds worse and worse. She's not a criminal like her sons, but she's no angel.
11 Bravo
(23,926 posts)UnrepentantLiberal
(11,700 posts)FarCenter
(19,429 posts)Hekate
(90,714 posts)Sorry your life sucks, lady. Now please grieve quietly while the amputees and bereaved try to retrieve what they can of their lives.
name not needed
(11,660 posts)El Progreso
(21 posts)It's his mom. Her emotions and our emotions are different.
A person with empathy would not antagonize her or make fun of her no matter how many times she said her son was innocent and good and killed cruelly. Even if he was a terrorist, which he was.
11 Bravo
(23,926 posts)I'll start trying to crank up the old empathy.
WI_DEM
(33,497 posts)11 Bravo
(23,926 posts)Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)eissa
(4,238 posts)son hadn't murdered four people, maimed countless others, and engaged in a firefight with law enforcement, he wouldn't have met such a fate. I loathe this woman as much as I do her disgusting spawn.
TheCowsCameHome
(40,168 posts)He should have found something less dangerous.
RedCappedBandit
(5,514 posts)LisaL
(44,973 posts)she should have a talk with a younger one.
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)don't see any indication he was hit and dragged.
This thread probably isn't the place for this, but it's just something I noticed.
Rex
(65,616 posts)I am sure the mom doesn't want to actually believe she raised two monsters. Guess what mom, you raised two monsters. Sorry, but life ain't even close to fair.
Quantess
(27,630 posts)She's got a lot to be brokenhearted about.
eissa
(4,238 posts)if she would just shut the fuck up. She should take a lesson from her daughters -- put out a statement expressing condolences for the loss of life, ask for privacy, and call it a day. I get that she's a grieving mom, but she's hurting her family more by saying such outrageous things.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)Well put.
Mugu
(2,887 posts)frogmarch
(12,154 posts)Lashing out is a coping mechanism.
LisaL
(44,973 posts)frogmarch
(12,154 posts)One of her friends or family members should try to make her stop.
Raine
(30,540 posts)her sons' suffering victims.
frogmarch
(12,154 posts)Yo_Mama
(8,303 posts)I'm not saying she's a wonderful human being, but the other day she claimed to a reporter that her oldest son wasn't dead - that it was someone else.
She doesn't believe they did the bombings. She's being selectively quoted to make it appear that she's some sort of a violent Islamist, when it's very clear that she is shocked by the crime and unable to rationally come to grips with the fact that her sons did it.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)Poll_Blind
(23,864 posts)PB
It would take some time to admit to yourself that your sons had done something that heinous. And I wouldn't be surprised if the press cherry picked quotes.
She needs time, away from the press. She needs her daughters to come take her away and hide her for a bit.
gollygee
(22,336 posts)Imagine being her right now. Her sons did something so horrible, something that would make you question everything about how you parented your children. One of her sons died horribly, and the other is seriously injured and is going to have a very hard road ahead of him. It's not surprising to me that she's having a hard time keeping herself together.
lastlib
(23,251 posts)nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)But i feel empathy for all involved...this includesTsanaev's family.
Empathy is what makes us human atmany levels she lost a son.
And yes...i expect some to not understand, even misrepresent, this
madinmaryland
(64,933 posts)Thank you for your comments. It appears a lot of DUer's don't understand empathy.
Common Sense Party
(14,139 posts)some of the children missing limbs, and ask them about 'cruelty.'
DonViejo
(60,536 posts)for liberating $1,600 worth of designer dresses from Lord & Taylor and fleeing the Court's jurisdiction.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022743653
Common Sense Party
(14,139 posts)DonViejo
(60,536 posts)a warrant for her arrest. I guess.
Common Sense Party
(14,139 posts)reported. It seems like every "news" source is making stuff up and then backtracking when it's shown to be nonsense.
But IF it's true that she's coming here, I imagine she requested some intervention first to have the charges dropped on the local crime.
SoCalDem
(103,856 posts)had he not been run over/dragged by his baby bro, he would have made it to a hospital....ALIVE
kestrel91316
(51,666 posts)BeyondGeography
(39,375 posts)Can't even visit her survivng son without getting arrested first. Tsarnaeva family values.
Mopar151
(9,989 posts)My personal beleif is that she was "radicalized" by her shoplifting arrest (with subsequent denial of citizenship), and Tam's domestic violence charge having similar consequences.
I know my scheming Russians (& otherwise), and nothing makes them snake-eyed mean like having the smallest little ploy thwarted.
Those wishing a fully domestic take on this are invited to learn the history of the Barker gang.
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)Raven
(13,895 posts)obviously didn't Mom very well, did she?
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)if *I* had done something really heinous, my mother would have some sort of extreme denial complex, and continue to defend my innocence to her dying day...Some mothers are just like that...
Jamastiene
(38,187 posts)And your "boy" was killed "really cruelly" by your OTHER "boy."
hatrack
(59,587 posts)Then have your kid brother run over you in a carjacked SUV and, well, things are not going to end well . . . .
Captain Stern
(2,201 posts)This woman has just found out that one of her sons is dead, and that the other is in the hospital with serious injuries. She's also found out that her sons are murderers.
That's a serious heap of baggage to get dumped on a person all at once, so maybe she deserves some time before we all flex our internet muscles at her and tell her what a pos she is.
Phillip McCleod
(1,837 posts)..
*nah*
arthritisR_US
(7,288 posts)she's in for a rude awakening
laundry_queen
(8,646 posts)In fact, I would wager a giant bet, that along with shoplifting as one sign, she probably never showed her sons any empathy, hence why they were unable to show any towards their victims. This is typical narcissistic parent MO. Narcissistic parents will blame anyone and everyone else for their problems and for their kids' problems. They take responsibility for nothing. They make it all about themselves and their victimization, and become attention you-know-whats. Normal human beings with empathy and a conscience will express empathy for the victims even if they don't believe their kids did it.
I grew up with narcissistic parents, and have done a lot of reading about it. My guess is that the older son was the 'favorite' which is why she's lashing out. Usually the favorite can do no wrong. Often the favorite becomes exactly like the parent - narcissistic and lacking in empathy. The family becomes dysfunctional with people in the immediate and extended family 'choosing sides' (sound familiar in this case?) around the narcissist's 'favorite'. Often, siblings are forced to admire and 'obey' the favorite or risk punishment or even banishment in the family. It completely explains this strange family's dynamic. And every time the mother opens her mouth, it further solidifies my opinion.
Edited for spelling - since when does Microsoft auto correct on message boards, wtf?
boguspotus
(286 posts)Makes a lot of sense - Thanks.
Mopar151
(9,989 posts)I've seen a narcisst or 3 go pretty much bugfuck when thwarted - and then scheme, plot, and manipulate some more. I've paid the price for thwarting a scheming Russian narcissist and his "crew" - losing the job where I dared hold them to the rules for everyone else.
OhioChick
(23,218 posts)Her "angel" ran over and killed the other. This after both monsters killed several and maimed over 170 innocent people.
Raven
(13,895 posts)boy and caused it to detonate. I would call that a cruel death. It might be a good idea if you shut your mouth and gave some substantial thought and prayer to the reasons why one of your sons would do that and what part you may have had in raising such a person.
octothorpe
(962 posts)cold hearted lady. Either way, it doesn't serve any purpose to pay her any attention.
ProudToBeBlueInRhody
(16,399 posts)You raised a great kid there, mommy.
MichiganVote
(21,086 posts)rightsideout
(978 posts)You apparently weren't around to give your younger son driving lessons.
I agree. If she wants to see cruelty she should go to the hospital to see the carnage her sons left behind.
customerserviceguy
(25,183 posts)this whole family is batshit crazy, no wonder they produced these two asshats.
Can the media finally decide that their fifteen minutes of fame is up, and go back to ignoring their rants?