anybody can sit though that crap in the morning.

ok, just kidding...

I can't wait til the great women that Chris Hayes has on his weekend show get on this and tear Joe a new one...

Yesterday I blasted a few tweets to MJ over the same issue. I noticed that all day yesterday GOP candidates were using Scarborough's talking points.

Preaching to the choir, Scarborough is still an arrogant jerk.

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During the 2007-2008 cycle, I concluded that MJ is the place the TPs are rolled out each day. Mostly the Repub ones, but often the establishment Dem ones, too.

By 7:15, if not before, you have almost everything that will be "news" that day, short of a disaster or other event preempting politics.

But the average Catholic, particularly the women, haven't had a chance to speak out yet. Don't worry, they will.

Joe is just still soreheaded over the Komen/PP outcome...he was hoping for a different one...

(Besides the fact they don't waste time with cooking segments, fashion tips, and exploitative human interest stuff like the broadcast network shows do.)
It's almost comical how obvious it is and Joe's been especially hamhanded with selling this one.

And I thank the kind souls who sent me hearts and PP the money!

And yes, Scarborough really did his arrogant jerk style well today! Keep going, Joe. You'll get a pissed off majority all right. But it won't be the one you want!

the tired old meme about "the Democratic party alienating church-going people", and how dreadfully unstrategic it was to this in an election year! GASP!! THE HORROR!!

I don't even think Mitt Romney has enough money to buy a clue for most of the "journalists" in the MSM these days.

K&R.

I stopped listening to their roadshow long ago...

Her voice is strident and annoying. It tells me that she is very opinionated and not all that interested in investigating new ideas and opinions.

You may think I am crazy, but I judge people a lot by their voices. To a certain extent, the sound of a person's voice depends on their physiology. But the voice is a product of breathing, less or more tension in the throat, vocal placement (high pitch - annoying, impatient, angry - or low - considerate of others, maybe on the negative, a little domineering), the use of muscles in the mouth and lips and all that depends on the attitudes and feelings of the person singing or speaking. Voices can express the warmth or coolness of a personality. Think of the warm voice of Ella Fitzgerald and the cool voice of Maria Callas. Two rather extreme examples.

I find that the way you produce your voice says a lot about who you are and what you think of yourself. If you listen carefully to the voices of different people, you will hear what I am talking about.

By the way, President Obama has a great voice. Listen to Newt Gingrich's voice and you will hear an angry, impatient man. Listen to Mitt Romney's voice and you will hear an insecure imposter. That's my opinion anyway.

As for Scarborough. I hear a petty, sniveling, impatient man. He sounds like someone who flies off the handle a lot.

Mika has a very nasal tone in her voice. Sounds like she is sort of sniffing her words up her nose. I suspect that Mika has felt the aim of his temper tantrums more than once and just holds in there because it is a job and she is paid well. It probably takes a lot of courage for Mika to express the few independent opinions that she dares to utter.

I would love to see Joe try to debate Rachel Maddow on this.

the floor with him. She was strong on this topic on MTP Sunday...

Occasionally, the hosts will cross over to sit at the MJ table..
Chris Matthews is a usual suspect,
But Rachel?
I will wager Joe Scar is afraid of her...

He knows he's out of their league but he would probably say he just doesn't think they have anything worthwhile to say. I still say Joey's still mad about that poster that went viral with Krugman's head photoshopped on George Clooney's body in that movie poster! Joe was downright depressed about that!

Ever since Mika's dad pronounced some statement Scar made about the Middle EAst as "stunningly superficial" Joey has been deferential when dad comes on the show, as if often the case recently (Zbig is promoting his book). He knows better now not to screw around with Mr. Zbig...

There is a segment of supposedly liberal Dem pundits like E.J. Dionne & Mark Sheilds who are so used to showing obsequious deference to the Catholic Bishops that they easily side with the heirarchy - a heirarchy that many, if not most, Catholics are fully aware of of placing the safety and well-being of women and children at the bottom of the barrel. We all know they cared much more about protecting the "Church" over the predatory priests they moved around & let continue to prey on the most vulnerable.

The degree to which the Church has ALWAYS placed WOMEN at the very lowest rung of the ladder is well known. I remember the first time my Mom pointed this out to me when I was a kid & it shocked me at 10 or 12 (I'm not sure how old I was). She said, in a quite disgusted & bitter way, that the Church would always choose the baby - even one already gone * over the mother - even if the mother had 5 little kids at home completely dependent on her for everything.





*(she knew from personal experience with a stillborn where they knew the baby died & just told her they hoped she went into labor & delivered the already dead baby before it started to poison her)

during this segment. Early on he chastized Mika for interrupting him then he went on to interrupt her and 2-3 other people with his faux outrage. Then he was likening himself to Clint Eastwood, yuck.

and tell Joe he's full of it and any other man on that show who is talking about the Catholic voters going against Obama over this issue.

Love it! Your whole email was great, but that one line was killer. That can be used again and again.

Damnit, Mika, get up off your knees

when I tried to submit my statement. I think they were jammed with responses. It took 3 tries before I got thru!

Basically, that show needs to have more women on the panels, particularly on this issue. Tina Brown is a little too "chi chi" and also is a Brit, so I think it constrains her. This morning they did have wheezebag Cokie Roberts who, mercifully, didn't comment on the HHS issue, so I guess they figure that she "counts."

They need some of the smart, outspoken women that Chris Hayes is having on his show Sat. and Sun. Have a couple of them on MJ and watch them skin those male retreads alive!

have the people on his show that Chris does.

Joe's got Newt Syndrome, he's got to be the "smartest" person in the room no matter what.

old dudes, with backward thinking. Joe is getting meaner, nastier and looking like sh*t every time he opens his mouth and barks out one of his rants.

But Chris' show is indicative that the management of MSNBC thinks they can have success with a very savvy, younger population of viewers. Watching his show is positively refreshing!

Joe's show lacks that verve. Today's lineup was lame: Cokie Roberts, Carl Bernstein, gasbag Barnicle and a depressing "twofer" of interviews with Sen. Pat Toomey and Rick Santorum back to back. Mark Halperin, with his creepy grin and snarky voice, was another unappetizing serving...

I speak as an older dudette, myself. Go Chris Hayes!

I'm on the ass end of middle age myself and it seems the people he has on are geared to that audience.

Chris, since he's on only weekends, can probably get a wider range of ages.

when he returns they have dragged Tom Brokaw out of the cobwebs. He comes out and seconds everything that Joe says. Disgusting.

I was using it in a narrow sense, meaning "unmarried" which as I understand it, was the original meaning. Now I think it has been broadened to include any sexual activity (I don't know about masturbation, tho).

the implication here is that the Roman Catholic priesthood cannot understand what it means to be married and having a family to protect and support. So celibate in that sense fits.

really, really mad

An abusive relationship if I ever saw one - never, never watch that show. Gives me the willies.

He doesn't know Jack about women's health except when they find women in his office not breathing. Ask if Joe can explain DEAD WOMAN IN OFFICE, DEAD WOMEN IN OFFICE. Then we will consider him having a valid point.

Dog, that was funny....

In the last year I've tuned out near to zero, but in their early years when they p. me off regularly, I would jump out of bed to fire off e-mails to them, peppering my more rational content with epithets like "plaigiarist BARNICLE" and "Nazi BUCHANAN." At the beginning BARNICLE could be seen to flinch then they got the stuff, while they wouldn't mention it, but you could see a change of demeanor in them all. But as they settled into being accepted by the NY elite, with guests like Sarah Jessica PARKER telling them how much she loved them, they stopped being affected, "grew" into their big time status of letting the peanut gallery (us) drop shells where we may.

Along with the facts the O.P. cites that they ignore, our whole public discourse in elections is riddled with falsehoods, this cycle's being the continuing canard that Mittens "saved the Olympics." Somebody here posted a myth busting article that said Jack WELCH and some other fatcat did the labor on that and Mittens was named when it was all done to be the figurehead.

But thank Zeus BUCHANAN is gone. The HALPERIN a-hole makes me dry heave.

they must have been mobbed with emails, twitter...

I did notice that Mika Mouse was a little more assertive today but she doesn't have much latitude. I think she's getting a lot of references to her being a "token," agreeing with the boss, not standing up for women...She actually did make a reference to the all male clergy, tho, altho it was a bit tentative, as if she were asking "is it ok?"

good god, woman!

but the frat boy attitude made me sick.

I used to email them to counter the propaganda, but nothing.
I doubt they read any tweets/emails that are cogent.

I don't bother with MJ anymore, and I'm a happier person.

Oh, do they mean they are tired of getting beat up for raping little boys and covering it up... Yeah, I can see that getting to be a drag... FUCKING ass's!!!! And I am (was) Catholic myself