You betcha. Though I'll shed no tears for this hateful opportunist.

but if there is any basis in truth to my hypothesis, that says more about Komen than Handel. I have no love for Handel but if she was used as a scapegoat, that really sucks and, honestly, is quite mean.

She said as much. She may have been a patsy when things turned sour, but I fail to see why she should earn any sympathy.

(And if you don't think Fleischer clued her into why she was potentially going to be hired, think about it a bit more)

Take politics out of it for a moment... what if you were hired with the impression you were going to spearhead something really important to you. Then you get there and this thing you were hired to do is actually an excuse to make you the bad guy.

Again, I have absolutely NO SYMPATHY for Handel, none but I will reiterate, this says more about the Komen Foundation than Handel. We all know where Handel stood in regards to choice and PP, yet the decision by Komen obviously shocked a lot of people. So much so, their brand will be forever tarnish, if not ruined. I will repeat, yet again, that says more about Komen than Handel.

I think she got screwed, otherwise she wouldn't have thrown Komen under the bus. If she knew her role, she would have been told to play along, not point out the decision was made BEFORE she came aboard. Where's the win in that for her?

She was "on board with them", so to speak. They hired Handel knowing full well what she was about. But she ended up taking all the heat and ended up getting burned, while SGKF ducked for cover. I can see why Handel would be upset about this.

You're obviously NOT from Georgia, or you would have know of this witch and her right-wing crusades. More likely, she found some strings to pull so she could elbow her way into the Komen organization, so she could push an agenda that she couldn't as Secretary of State. In her failed run for governor here, all of this was well known, and she got the usual Bachmann-Santorum contingent of religious crazies supporting her.

I think it is an insight into the executive level of the Komen foundation. They have now been shown to be true conservatives, willing to let the Christian crackpot demographic have their say. If they were liberal and concerned with helping women, her resume would have immediately hit the trash can.

so I don't think there was string-pulling going on. I think, based on the head-hunting by Fleischer and the subsequent resignation letter pointing out the decision was made BEFORE she was hired, it's easy to conclude she is a scapegoat. I wouldn't be surprised is she sues.

And no, I'm not from Georgia, I refuse to live in another red state again (nothing against Georgia, I'd love to visit Savannah at some point).

But if you moved here, it would be a little less red.

My wife's cousin used to live in Savannah and we had great times visiting him every year. I miss that guy. She has folks we love to visit near Warner Robbins too. Hell, I like some of her relatives better than mine.


I'm just waiting for the call: "Y'all come - pig's in the ground!"
and I can start to smell that BBQ before we even hit the state line...

sorry. didn't mean to sidetrack the thread - I just love visiting up there.

"The decision to update...was made before I joined..."
Ok, they decided to take a look at how and to whom they made grants.

But did they pick on PP before she was hired? She never said she was not the one who named them to be on the chopping block.
They decided to look at their process. They hired her. She said, "fuck poor women" and the rest is history...


I have a hard time believing anything she said in her resignation letter wasn't specifically designed to spin shit her way.

I think my theory can fit into OP's theory as well....at the "they hired her" part, they had to know who she was and figured she would make that move...

and I don't deny she doesn't hold low-income women in high regard. That said, if she was part of the larger picture, why throw Komen under the bus in the resignation letter? If you're a repub team player, you don't stab the team in the back on the way out.

For all we know, she could be lying because she's pissed for being made to resign but I don't see the logic in that if she was brought in specifically to make this decision. It just doesn't fit with the repub model of being a team player.

I thought I read yesterday or the day before something on that..It would be nice if whoever leaked them would send a few more out to help clarify what is being said in private vs what she says in public...


and how did the resignation letter get to the press? Is that normal? It was addresses to Brinker right? Is that automatically a press release or did someone cc the press?

She couldn't have done a damn thing without the express consent of Susan's sister, Miz Brinker, and the board of directors, though.

I think it was a match made in hell--and it didn't work out, so now everyone's pointing fingers.

Screw Komen--I would not give a flung bucket of poop if they started supporting progressive charities exclusively at this stage of the game. They only give twenty four cents of every dollar they take in to "the cause" and the rest goes to bloated salaries of mendacious, duplicitous asswipes.

They are permanently on my Shitlist!

this should be made known to people who may go back to supporting Komen now that Handel is gone.

I think there were all kinds of machinations going on in the background... I think Handel was hired specifically to be thrown under the bus if this didn't work. I think Komen is more concerned about a political agenda than breast cancer.

I just don't want people thinking that now Handel is gone, things are hunky dory.

Consider the source, typical right-wing Southern Bible thumping Republican, in other words, LIAR!

Okay.

I think she's giving us a view behind the curtain, myself. Sour grapes and all. I don't think she's lying about Komen making this decision before she was brought in... I think that's why their Dem lobbyist was fired, because she didn't agree with the decision.

When you look at their financials, they're just full of shit. They aren't helping women, they're helping THEMSELVES. I've rarely seen a charity that puts so little of their actual "take" towards the actual cause they are touting. The main "cure" they are interested in is a cure for not being a millionaire for their board of directors and leadership.

They're rip-off artists.

Send the cash to PP. More of it will go to women who need it.

and she'd be in charge of their "triumph." It didn't work out that way, thank goodness.

She may be the fall guy for implementation of a plan they all shared, but I don't see any reason to assume she was hired to be that. They hired her because she wanted to do what they wanted done. It turned out to be a bad idea, poorly implemented, and Handel and Komen are both paying the price.

She'll fall upward, though, with some other cushy right wing job.

to discredit Planned Parenthood and force it to go the way of ACORN, but they got a hoist with their own petard.

DAMN, Karen Handel makes the most satisfying "THUMP-THUMP" sound as she's thrown under the bus...

just how deep this decision goes. There's all kinds of nastiness in her resignation, that if true, really does not bode well for Komen.

Komen wasn't funding abortion services, and they damn well knew it.

PP also does screening, testing and organizes treatment for breast cancer. It's not Jiffy Lube.

Thousands of women who can't afford to go to a private doctor or hospital depend on PP for a majority of their healthcare. With our shitty, profit-driven system, alternatives are few and far between.

Not that I have any other real information at hand, it just reeks of martyr-posing.

Didn't someone at Komen resign over that decision?

She's going to become a barnacle on the MSM circuit until she wins either a governorship or a Congressional seat. Barring either of those, a permanent post at Faux and a regular on the Sunday talk shows.

Personally, I think she's such a hateful person, moderate (R)s will turn away from her in droves. With that kind of exposure, she won't be going to either the governors mansion or Congress.