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Gay Marriage debate on Now with Alex Wagner. Dan Choi, Michael Steele, John Heliemann.
Choi asked Steele point blank if, after returning from Military service, he didn't have the "right" to marry the person he loved.
Steele said "I'm not going to get into how you define your 'love'..."
Then went off on a tangent about "community standards" and not accepting the concept of gay marriage.
Then John Heilemann brought the hammer down and asked Steele "OK, what about a community where the 'standards' don;t accept a black man with a white woman?"
Steele fucking flipped OUT, said it was completely inappropriate to compare the two scenarios, and was CLEARLY offended.
Heilemann said it was the "perfect analogy."
Steele said "It's not perfect to ME."
Aerows
(39,961 posts)They'll invalidate another.
bullwinkle428
(20,629 posts)xxqqqzme
(14,887 posts)'Community standards' is YOUR argument Mikey!
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)After all, you're arguing "community standards" and such. It certainly once was the case that mixed race marriages were very much against not just community, but legal standards. In some parts of the country (I refer here to the geography of some exceedingly small minds), it's still not very well accepted, though it is indisputably legal.
What's the difference? Why isn't the analogy appropriate? Should we hold our breath waiting for a coherent answer?
benld74
(9,904 posts)madinmaryland
(64,933 posts)Amerigo Vespucci
(30,885 posts)His primary justification for the gay/straight, black/white comparison not being "appropriate" was "I can LOOK at you and tell if you're black or white, but I can't LOOK at you and tell you're gay, so unless you TELL me or I FIGURE IT OUT later, I can't possibly discriminate against you because I don't know you're gay."
In other words, if Steele's gaydar is functioning properly, he can make an informed decision about whether or not someone should have equal rights, based on "community standards." If not, the person would have to tell him or do something gay so he would know.