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busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
Sat May 4, 2013, 02:04 PM May 2013

For all the Jews who have found themselves drawn into right wing

conservative philosophy....This is a forewarning....

The only reason the extreme right wing in our country supports Israel is because of their
interest in securing their Holy Land for the impending apocalypse !!

As far as the religious right is concerned the Jews who don’t convert during this period will be destined to a life in hell..

This event in Hungry is a good reminder what right wing xenophobic religious nationalists around the world feel about Jews when Israel isn’t a part of their agenda.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-22413301

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For all the Jews who have found themselves drawn into right wing (Original Post) busterbrown May 2013 OP
You got no idea how many times I have had that talk nadinbrzezinski May 2013 #1
Theres a reason American Jews vote overwhelmingly Democratic. No Netanyahu. JaneyVee May 2013 #2
uh, you do realize that American Jews are one of the most loyal dem cali May 2013 #3
I agree... Does the name Sheldon Adelson ring a bell? busterbrown May 2013 #5
And he is but one person. Behind the Aegis May 2013 #6
This guy potentially could still do a lot of damage.. busterbrown May 2013 #7
Lots of people are have that potential. Behind the Aegis May 2013 #8
If your telling me that right wing Jews are few and far between...I disagree... busterbrown May 2013 #9
I didn't say they are "far and few between," but they are not as plentiful as you seem to think. Behind the Aegis May 2013 #10
“Plentiful”? When did I mention that? busterbrown May 2013 #13
When did I say "far and few between?" Behind the Aegis May 2013 #14
Never claimed you stated that... You seem to be doing all the “stating”.. busterbrown May 2013 #16
You're correct. You implied it. Behind the Aegis May 2013 #17
Like I really have other motives going on here? busterbrown May 2013 #18
Only you know your motives. Behind the Aegis May 2013 #19
You sound as though you have appointed yourself... busterbrown May 2013 #20
You sound as if you have a greater insight because of your alleged right-wing friends. Behind the Aegis May 2013 #21
When Did I mention that I had a “greater insight” about anything.? busterbrown May 2013 #24
When did you mention your greater insight? Behind the Aegis May 2013 #27
I guess I gotta do a better job on making my point.. busterbrown May 2013 #28
You should read my thread: Behind the Aegis May 2013 #30
Isn’t all about the 1% deflecting attention away from themselves.... busterbrown May 2013 #31
Sadly, it isn't just the 1%. Behind the Aegis May 2013 #33
Then they, like Sheldon Adelson, think they are making a financial calculation, not a religious one. Warren DeMontague May 2013 #22
My point is: busterbrown May 2013 #25
If that was the point of your OP, it sure didn't come across that way. Warren DeMontague May 2013 #26
uh, yeah. so what? he's hardly representative of the voting patterns of cali May 2013 #12
What? That was not the point... busterbrown May 2013 #15
Self-delete. I thot I was posting in the Religion forum. TheDebbieDee May 2013 #4
The Fundys only want Israel to exist so it can be destroyed and fulfill"prophecy" with byeya May 2013 #11
I don't think Christian conservatives are "extreme right wing" Mosby May 2013 #23
I think most Jews are aware of the right wing's rationale elias7 May 2013 #29
Quite right. nt Bonobo May 2013 #32
 

JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)
2. Theres a reason American Jews vote overwhelmingly Democratic. No Netanyahu.
Sat May 4, 2013, 02:09 PM
May 2013

American Liberal Jews believe in a 2 state solution while Israeli Rightwing Jews are just as batshit insane as our fear-mongering conservatives.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
3. uh, you do realize that American Jews are one of the most loyal dem
Sat May 4, 2013, 02:12 PM
May 2013

voting blocs there is, right? And that that hasn't changed appreciably over the last several years?

I think most Jews are aware of the racist xenophobic nature of right wingers just as most latinos and blacks are. This just ain't the right wing constituency.

Behind the Aegis

(53,961 posts)
6. And he is but one person.
Sat May 4, 2013, 04:31 PM
May 2013

You have had this "conversation" before, why the need to resurrect it?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251283887

Many favor the right not because of Israel, but because of economic issues, like the vast majority of other minorities who fall to the right.

busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
7. This guy potentially could still do a lot of damage..
Sat May 4, 2013, 04:39 PM
May 2013

I should have mentioned him in my original thread...Like I did previously.. as you reminded me..

Minorities who favor economic issues endorsed by the right in my opinion, are financially well off and think they pay too much in taxes....I have several Jewish close friends who are very well off and complain about Taxes all the time.... I’m Jewish and it makes mr sick and I tell em straight
freaking on!

Behind the Aegis

(53,961 posts)
8. Lots of people are have that potential.
Sat May 4, 2013, 04:42 PM
May 2013

So, why the concern with the mythical right-wing drift of Jews? Your friends are not indicative of Jews overall, as explained before. Also, this is not the target audience (DU).

busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
9. If your telling me that right wing Jews are few and far between...I disagree...
Sat May 4, 2013, 05:00 PM
May 2013

I’m including Jewish Republican which in my opinion is simply another term for “right wing”.

Behind the Aegis

(53,961 posts)
10. I didn't say they are "far and few between," but they are not as plentiful as you seem to think.
Sat May 4, 2013, 05:04 PM
May 2013

The graphs I provided in the other thread show there is not a plethora of right-wing Jews. Jews are one of the primary blocs of the Democratic party. We also have our share of rich ones too. It would be good to remember that anti-Semitism should be blamed on anti-Semites.

Behind the Aegis

(53,961 posts)
14. When did I say "far and few between?"
Sat May 4, 2013, 05:12 PM
May 2013

Perhaps you should be more concerned about other minorities who seem to be drifting to the right, mainly for economic reason, a few for social issues. Jews are rarely single-issue voters.

busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
16. Never claimed you stated that... You seem to be doing all the “stating”..
Sat May 4, 2013, 05:17 PM
May 2013

Don’t tell me what I should be concerned about....

Behind the Aegis

(53,961 posts)
17. You're correct. You implied it.
Sat May 4, 2013, 05:19 PM
May 2013

Your original post makes no sense. Perhaps I am unclear as to the point of the OP.

busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
18. Like I really have other motives going on here?
Sat May 4, 2013, 05:23 PM
May 2013

Your next move?? “You said it not me”...
Go bother someone else... I’m done..

Behind the Aegis

(53,961 posts)
19. Only you know your motives.
Sat May 4, 2013, 05:24 PM
May 2013

But now there are two similar threads, so what are you trying to say? If you don't want responses to your posts, stop making them.

busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
20. You sound as though you have appointed yourself...
Sat May 4, 2013, 05:31 PM
May 2013

Sheriff of Jews who might really be trolls or Jews who are self loathing Jews...
Give it up my brother your boring..

Behind the Aegis

(53,961 posts)
21. You sound as if you have a greater insight because of your alleged right-wing friends.
Sat May 4, 2013, 05:33 PM
May 2013

What is boring is your inability to articulate your point in a way that is not ambiguous. Your name-calling is a sure sign you have no point and are simply flailing.

busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
24. When Did I mention that I had a “greater insight” about anything.?
Sat May 4, 2013, 06:14 PM
May 2013

Or do you make this stuff up so someone will pay attention to you?
You’re very bright and articulate by the way. Much more than I am...
but I wonder if you have too much time on your hands today?

Behind the Aegis

(53,961 posts)
27. When did you mention your greater insight?
Sat May 4, 2013, 07:02 PM
May 2013

Probably around the time I "appointed myself Sheriff of Jews." Do you make false accusations and insinuations in order to avoid answering simple questions posed to you? Perhaps, if you could drop your personal attacks, you could make your point. What is the point of the OP?

ETA: Never mind, I just saw your response to Warren. I don't think you will find many Jews who aren't aware there is anti-Semitism in this country. Also, many Jews on the right know the support for Israel is superficial in many cases. Many hide their anti-Semitism behind the support of Israel and in criticism of Israel; most Jews are well are of it.

busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
28. I guess I gotta do a better job on making my point..
Sat May 4, 2013, 08:21 PM
May 2013

The display of ant semitism in Hungry got my attention this a.m...
Have a good eve...

busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
31. Isn’t all about the 1% deflecting attention away from themselves....
Sun May 5, 2013, 01:55 AM
May 2013

when things go poorly...Amazing how so many fall for that crap...

Behind the Aegis

(53,961 posts)
33. Sadly, it isn't just the 1%.
Sun May 5, 2013, 02:03 AM
May 2013

If you read the article from my thread (and there is another in the same forum about the Ukraine), it is often anyone who is "freaking out" about the economic situation. The first groups, almost always attacked, are the Jews and immigrants. Other minority populations also get targeted, but it depends on the country. Attacks or anti-Rom behavior here would almost never occur, quite simply because many don't even know who they are, so they can't stereotype them.

Anti-Semitism is not limited to political spectrum, education, or geographical location. The rise in anti-Semitism in the former eastern Bloc countries, really isn't surprising, and I see it rising in more and more places. I believe we will see its rise in Western Europe and Latin America.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
22. Then they, like Sheldon Adelson, think they are making a financial calculation, not a religious one.
Sat May 4, 2013, 05:38 PM
May 2013

The premise of your OP is that they would give a shit what the knuckle-dragging fundies believe about Jesus and Israel if they only knew- they probably do know, but they don't care.

Which seems to be a common thread for the big money people in the GOP, regardless of affiliation; they don't actually believe the nonsense that gets the base to the polls, they just like the tax cuts.

busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
25. My point is:
Sat May 4, 2013, 06:20 PM
May 2013

If you think we are safe from antisemitism in our country..You are wrong..
Next time you get on a Libertarian Web Site start an argument about the Federal Reserve and
the banks, see how long it takes for the name Rothchilds to come up...

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
26. If that was the point of your OP, it sure didn't come across that way.
Sat May 4, 2013, 06:43 PM
May 2013

Obviously there is antisemitism. I've seen it in a lot of places.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
12. uh, yeah. so what? he's hardly representative of the voting patterns of
Sat May 4, 2013, 05:05 PM
May 2013

Jews in this country.

heard of the Koch brothers? OMG rich white people of many different religions vote for pukes. shocking, I tell you. Shocking.

busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
15. What? That was not the point...
Sat May 4, 2013, 05:14 PM
May 2013

Simply stating that if it was not for Israel,I feel there would be a lot more overt anti-semitism in this country...My father’s best friend was a high ranking official in the military and I’ll always
remember his conversations concerning this subject when I was a kid...He was Jewish by the way..

 

byeya

(2,842 posts)
11. The Fundys only want Israel to exist so it can be destroyed and fulfill"prophecy" with
Sat May 4, 2013, 05:05 PM
May 2013

the result being the second coming. All Jews will die. No ifs ands or buts. The Fundys will be wafted to heaven to sit by the right hand of God(or one of the three gods of Fundyland) and yock it up for eternity.

Mosby

(16,319 posts)
23. I don't think Christian conservatives are "extreme right wing"
Sat May 4, 2013, 05:39 PM
May 2013

Given how much involvement they want the government to have in people's personal lives they are very far away ideologically from libertarians and paleocons.

The right wing Jews in the US (who are mostly orthodox) don't care about end times theology because they know its all bullshit.

They find common cause with the Christians over issues like religious (charter) school funding and support for Israeli settlements in the west bank.

elias7

(4,007 posts)
29. I think most Jews are aware of the right wing's rationale
Sat May 4, 2013, 09:02 PM
May 2013

one of those moments of coincident interests based on differing rationales. But most Jews in this country are liberal voters.

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