and it will just show the "independents" what a bunch of far right wingers the teabaggers actually are.

He spent millions upon millions and it was easy to see through his veneer and we are getting better at fighting election fraud. But I know what you mean!

Reagan was an actor and knew how to look good in front of a camera. Chimpy had his whole phony "good ol' boy" routine going for him. Cruz, on the other hand, is just a bullying, obnoxious asshole. Even members of his own party think he's an enormous douche. He has no appeal outside of the nutjobs who elected him.

he reminds me very much of Sen. Joe McCarthy. Anybody else see the resemblance?

The media pundits were almost unanimous in saying of Reagan, "Too conservative to be nominated, and if nominated too conservative to be elected."

He can't open his mouth without something stupid coming out.

They really aren't comparable to Reagan and W in terms of how far outside the mainstream they are.

He doesn't hold back at all and shows his colors and ass all the time.

[q]"Ted Cruz is lots weirder than ole stick mitt.

He doesn't hold back at all and shows his colors and ass all the time."[/q]

I really don't see how that is even remotely possible. Do you remember Mitt Romney's European Vacation? He managed to insult our allies and in one fell swoop insulted Palestinians and Mexicans at the same time, talking about Israeli and US values is why both countries are prosperous and the others are not.

Seriously Mitt is the biggest train wreck I have ever seen in my entire life. But, if Ted Cruz is worse or even comes close I say let the eedgit run.

He'll do the same thing that Santorum did. He'll force the "electable" candidates to take indefensible positions. Of course, if they are smart they will tell him to take a hike.

The more clowns in the clown car, the better.

Okay, here's another example of just how dumb our politics can be in this country.

I awoke today with stories abounding about tea party Senator (from Texas) Ted Cruz's potential run for President of the United States in 2016. Everything I saw, heard and read seemed to promote the fact that the mainstream media is actually taking this very seriously and is doing extensive reporting on the possibility. But I have one question... WTH?

In all of the reporting of this story that I have seen, not one article or report has even attempted to probe and really question the fact that... Ted Cruz was not born in the United States!

Ted Cruz was born in Calgary, Alberta, Canada in 1970. His family moved to the U.S. when he was four years old. Now how conservatives believe Cruz to be a legitimate candidate for president while many on the right still believe that Barack Obama is illegitimate is beyond me, but many seem to be taking him seriously and some in the media are even conducting polls on his chances.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dee-evans/ted-cruz-president-canada_b_3195112.html

our Teapublican (R - Hypocrisy is our middle name) friends?
After all he wasn't born in 'Ukeyna becki becki becki stan'. He's a Christen just like us, not some 'Muslin'. What's more important is he's wh... ,er..., I mean he's not bla..., er..., I mean he's just like us!

Oh, the upcoming Teapublican clown car demolition derby might be worth the price of admission, even if Jeb Bush has the poll position.

buy it and support him big time. A chance to put another crack in the constitution and an opportunity to call for a constitution convention and gut the Bill off Rights, except the 2nd, in favor of the religious right.

He needs a dose of reality!

Then again, I wanted Bachman to get the nomination for the same reason. To make it crystal clear to the indy's what the GOP has become.

Bat shit crazy is what their standard.

birthers on the left. Yes he was born in Canada but his mother was born in the states and so it makes him a US citizen. We don't want to be like those of the right.

He is not a natural born citizen.

He'll be the one to "rescue" the GOP from the Teabaggers.

Until then, Cruz and whatever other nutjob what pass for politicians will be held up high to demonstrate and relentlessly reinforce the "principled conservative cause" mantra. Cruz also serves to deflect any fallout from "failed government programs" and the bad kharma directed toward Washington until the arrival of the savior, the outsider, the appointed next BFEE turd to hold the Oval Office.

IMHO.

and frankly, I think having a fit over where he was born is as silly and petty as the other side. His mother was a U.S. citizen.

And Romney sure as shit was not from Mexico.

I find this flavor of hypocrisy amusing.

I think the OP meant George Romney (Mitt's father) not Mitt. George Romney was actually born in Mexico.

Pretty much agree with your sentiment, though

Romney-Dad was a candidate once. but his birthplace was not an issue since he was a non-viable candidate from the get-go...they humored him..

The Court has never pronounced on what the Constitution's "natural born" clause means; perhaps a Cruz candidacy would give them a chance to do so. But the most common understanding is NOT "born on American soil"; the most common understanding is "an American citizen from birth," which Cruz was under the U.S. laws governing transmission of citizenship to children born abroad to American citizen parents. (Indeed, the same would apply to Obama even if he HAD been born in Kenya.) So nothing to see here. Now, please, please, let's get back to encouraging a Cruz candidacy!

Instead of "can become President" it should be "is technically eligible to run" since it would be a JOKE OF THE UNIVERSE if this a-hole ever became it.


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[font size=5]Yes, Ted Cruz Can Be Born in Canada and Still Become President of the U.S.[/font]

.... Helpfully, the Congressional Research Service gathered all of the information relevant to Cruz's case a few years ago, at the height (nadir?) of Obama birtherism. In short, the Constitution says that the president must be a natural-born citizen. "The weight of scholarly legal and historical opinion appears to support the notion that 'natural born Citizen' means one who is entitled under the Constitution or laws of the United States to U.S. citizenship 'at birth' or 'by birth,' including any child born 'in' the United States, the children of United States citizens born abroad, and those born abroad of one citizen parents who has met U.S. residency requirements," the CRS's Jack Maskell wrote. So in short: Cruz is a citizen; Cruz is not naturalized; therefore Cruz is a natural-born citizen, and in any case his mother is a citizen. You can read the CRS memo at bottom; here's a much longer and more detailed 2011 version. ....

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if he wins the nomination than he has a real shot at being president.

If you are born to an U.S. citizen then you are a natural born citizen of the U.S. no matter what country you are in. There have been other presidential candidates born outside of U.S. Chester Arthur was born in Canada. Barry Goldwater was born in Arizona which was not a state at the time. George Romney was born in Mexico. There are no legal authorities that support your position.

He will be defeated because he is a hothead idiot.

Don't make us look like idiots.

Thnx

and the courts have always interpreted those situations in favor of the child being given "natural-born" citizenship status anyway.

It's a slippery slope grey area. Goldwater was born in Arizona, but it was US territory, like someone born in PR would be iffy. McCain had a somewhat better argument. Both his parents were US citizens, and he was born on a US military base in Panama.

It's all up to the SC. The way I interpret it is McCain would be allowed to be President, as would Goldwater. Cruz would not. Then there's Rubio. Born to two non-citizens at the time of birth. I believe at least one parent must be a citizen at time of birth, so he's ineligible too.

or administratively, the decisions come down in favor of "natural born" citizenship status for the child. And you're wrong on Rubio. Rubio can run, as he was born in the US. It doesn't matter if neither of his parents were citizens or not. He was born here. See 14th Amendment to the US Constitution.

the person is a "natural born" citizen, regardless of where he came out of the womb. The opposite of natural born citizen is naturalized citizen. If his mother, father, or both were citizens when he was born, then he was born a citizen--i.e., natural born as a citizen, not "naturalized" later as a citizen. This rule protects the children of American citizens born while their parents are out of the country. Many, like military members or diplomats, have their families with them when serving the US abroad, so it would create a huge mess if their children were thrown off the citizenship rolls just because of their parents' service to the country!

Of course teabaggers are being inconsistent, but the fact is that even if Obama had not been born in Hawaii or some other US state, he'd still be a natural born citizen, because his mother was a citizen when she gave birth to him.

the doctor joked that he hoped the kid did not grow up to have presidential aspirations.. He's always had Panamanian citizenship as an option..and had no interest in the US presidency..

I guess it's a bit like the 2nd amendment and the Bible.. until SCOTUS rules definitively, there may be controversy.

I do not think that Cruz is an acceptable candidate , but the way the media howled about the bogus "issue" of Obama's citizenship (which was iron-clad), it annoys the hell out of me the was they seem to completely accept the issue of Cruz' eligibility as if it's no issue at all..

Being a citizen by birth place of parent is not the issue with him.. If that were so "widely accepted", no matter where Obama was born HE would have also qualified, but the media then seemed to think his citizenship deserved questioning...It's the double standard that irritates the hell out of me..and the casual way media is treating the issue with a republican, when they pull every little thread when a democrat is concerned.

for the sake of their corporate masters who want those repukes to vote.. and raising ratings by discussing another nutjob who offers entertainment value.

One of the panels on CNN did discuss this and concluded "nice guy but too soon for him to run" TOO SOON??! No, he's insane

for all the crazy never gonna be nominated people, Jeb stands above them as sane(to the republican party who will nominate him.)

And the birther story is passe'.

I think the repubs first hit on it to shield McCain and attempt to get McCain in, and it grew from there.

Much like I always thought Quayle was placed so as to later have nobody care that W wasn't drafted and was AWOL.

Cruz' mother was an American, therefore Cruz is an American.

Besides, Hillary will beat any and all including Jeb.
Most others could beat Cruz and the others, but not Jeb.

McCain is like me . . . Child of a military officer with an American spouse born stationed abroad.

the cons play a long game

of Natural Born Citizen is probably not correct.


The constitution doesn't define it, the Supreme Court has never ruled on it, and the history of rulings and actions contradicts your definition.

Educate yourself, do some reading.

Christ, I would pay all of my political contributions right now to get that asswipe nominated.

to see whether the Birthers will ever harass Cruz like how they have Obama, considering Cruz was born outside the U.S. I'm not holding my breath, though, because they didn't have a problem with Romney, even though just like Obama's father, Romney's father was also born outside the country. That was one of the main reasons why they were all in Obama's face.
It's all about politics with these people.

(Exact words from one Teabagger at another message board)

"He's a Canuck Spic."

The Tea Party is determined to drag the GOP into their mudhole, no matter how badly it hurts the party.

and pummeled vigorously about the head and shoulders. Live, on C-SPAN.

The only people who seem to like The Cruzer are the idiots who voted for him, and THEY only did it because he had an (R) next to his name...

...Although it would fit in with Canada's nefarious plan to take over the globe. Why else would an Egg McMuffin have CANADIAN bacon on it instead of good ol' patriotic AMERICAN bacon, eh?

The most hated senator in the senate would not have a chance.

Especially when he tries to claim citizenship through a parent and the birthers would be forced to eat every argument they ever threw at Obama....that would be fun to watch actually