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This homeless guy came up with an interesting religion test: (Original Post) kpete May 2013 OP
HA ! I notice the Atheist and Agnostic bowl have the most money. BlueJazz May 2013 #1
folding money too, not just a few nickles NightWatcher May 2013 #2
The Buddhist bowl mzteris May 2013 #3
We might put a little bit into each of the others... NYC_SKP May 2013 #20
the buddists do the most in this country as far as caring for the homeless pasto76 May 2013 #23
Really? Unca Jim May 2013 #29
I am a buddist. Those people you are talking about CBGLuthier May 2013 #46
I would love to read more about this Union Scribe May 2013 #32
Great picts (if real)... JackN415 May 2013 #4
What the...? Iggo May 2013 #5
:) my caveat was about not to spoil the fun... JackN415 May 2013 #8
An intersting varient is to... reACTIONary May 2013 #16
Interesting. Thanks. And there are pre-context situations that can... JackN415 May 2013 #27
Exactly Heather MC May 2013 #31
lol cui bono May 2013 #33
Brilliant! bhikkhu May 2013 #6
Brilliant! Get them fighting to donate the most. nt Demo_Chris May 2013 #7
Not gonna happen. RC May 2013 #11
yeah, because christians, muslims, jews, etc only give to their own arely staircase May 2013 #22
It is human nature to put your own group first. Those your already know. RC May 2013 #26
Going against human nature is the value of religion siligut May 2013 #37
I'm still wondering who won the debate between ThoughtCriminal May 2013 #9
Where is the bowl for American Taliban? and when will he do experiments.. JackN415 May 2013 #10
Not scientific at all. We do not know if this person has an agenda. hrmjustin May 2013 #12
Who the hell claimed it was scientific???? kestrel91316 May 2013 #15
I just wanted to remind people. hrmjustin May 2013 #18
Good catch Major Nikon May 2013 #25
Agreed treestar May 2013 #17
It's probably at least as scientific as your run-of-the-mill Gallup poll. stopbush May 2013 #19
Those darn atheists and agnostics! AllyCat May 2013 #13
We both know that it takes significant enlightenment to be JackN415 May 2013 #28
I want to know what a SPIRITAL is...anything like a SPIROGRAPH? MADem May 2013 #45
Divide and conquer. I like to tell folks that argue for "a religious ie: Christian" government TeamPooka May 2013 #14
We have a christian government ...helping with Meals on Wheels ...uhm er NOT! L0oniX May 2013 #21
They've rebooted Jesus to be FOR greed and avarice now.... nt TeamPooka May 2013 #24
Everything in the Pagan bowl probably came from a single persons pocket Zephie May 2013 #30
Bullshit test not indicative of anything. intheflow May 2013 #34
Yep cordelia May 2013 #36
You mean he could just be telling a story trying to get others to believe something? cleanhippie May 2013 #39
So you are saying that unsubstantiated, subjective claims are bullshit? cleanhippie May 2013 #38
Yep! intheflow May 2013 #42
Then we are in complete agreement! Claims like a man coming back from the dead... cleanhippie May 2013 #44
You just have to have Faith. Arugula Latte May 2013 #41
LOL! You guys are just so fucking funny. Egalitarian Thug May 2013 #47
You don't mean to say he might have some ulterior motive beyond pure scientific curiosity? Donald Ian Rankin May 2013 #48
His test is working ... JoePhilly May 2013 #35
It seems the only ones getting worked up are those that think this reflects the behavior cleanhippie May 2013 #40
Exactly ... JoePhilly May 2013 #43

mzteris

(16,232 posts)
3. The Buddhist bowl
Sun May 5, 2013, 12:02 PM
May 2013

looks like it has several bills in it, too..

Of course one doesn't know which type of Buddhist - the religious kind or the philosophy kind.

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
20. We might put a little bit into each of the others...
Sun May 5, 2013, 01:51 PM
May 2013

Or in those that looked most sad, for balance and harmony.

pasto76

(1,589 posts)
23. the buddists do the most in this country as far as caring for the homeless
Sun May 5, 2013, 01:56 PM
May 2013

soup kitchens and shelters and such. Recall Bush 43s "faith based charity" initiatives and how he was basically going to hand hundreds of millions to 'christian' charities....until they all realized that the buddist charities actually do the most work. Pfftb. Cant find those crazy people now can we...took alot of the wind out of those sails.

Unca Jim

(556 posts)
29. Really?
Sun May 5, 2013, 11:51 PM
May 2013

News to me.

Most homeless shelters and nutrition are based out of christian churches.

I'm sure buddists are nice people and help too, but they don't have the numbers to make a real dent.

 

JackN415

(924 posts)
4. Great picts (if real)...
Sun May 5, 2013, 12:20 PM
May 2013

not meant to spoil the fun, but wish to have the stats on the religious persuasion and the income of the population that walks by him (for a meaningful measurement of what he wants to test, which is $/(percentage of a religion*income) ).

Iggo

(47,558 posts)
5. What the...?
Sun May 5, 2013, 12:28 PM
May 2013

You mean to say this might not be a scientific poll?

Damn the homeless and their lax statistical standards!!!

 

JackN415

(924 posts)
8. :) my caveat was about not to spoil the fun...
Sun May 5, 2013, 12:43 PM
May 2013

and it specifically says "just to wish, not a criticism"

On the other hand, professional social scientists & psychologists do do this kind of research also. It is easy to count the number of people putting money in each bowl (which is the stats on religious persuasion) and if one really presses, one can have an experimenter (usually a pretty girl or a wholesome looking guy - depending on the donor gender) interview a donor afterward right around the corner about the income range.

reACTIONary

(5,770 posts)
16. An intersting varient is to...
Sun May 5, 2013, 01:41 PM
May 2013

...hang two different slogans over the sink in a public place and measure the amount of soap used. "Washing your hands will keep YOU healthy" vs. "Washing your hands will keep EVERYONE healthy".

This was done in hospital wash stations with the result that the altruistic slogan induced more vigorous hand washing, as measured by use of soap.

 

JackN415

(924 posts)
27. Interesting. Thanks. And there are pre-context situations that can...
Sun May 5, 2013, 04:51 PM
May 2013

increase of decrease the sense of altruism.

 

Heather MC

(8,084 posts)
31. Exactly
Mon May 6, 2013, 12:24 AM
May 2013

He needs to travel around, get some neighborhood statistics, make a pie chart. And power point presentation.

And I don't think plastic bowls is a good choice, perhaps fine bone china bowls would do better in harsh weather.

And he needs to add some political options for dems reps and other.

You know what let's just schedule another meeting on this for say 3 months from now and see where we are in the planning process of this experiment. You know, before we actually implement it.

 

RC

(25,592 posts)
11. Not gonna happen.
Sun May 5, 2013, 12:48 PM
May 2013

He is obviously not one of "them", so why should they help him? They would say, 'if he would only believe, he would be rewarded in Heaven'.
Either way, the religious can see no point in actually helping anyone in the here and now, not of their own church.



"The notion that faith in Christ is to be rewarded by an eternity of bliss, while a dependence upon reason, observation and experience merits everlasting pain, is too absurd for refutation, and can be relieved only by that unhappy mixture of insanity and ignorance, called "faith." "
-- Robert Green Ingersoll, The Gods

arely staircase

(12,482 posts)
22. yeah, because christians, muslims, jews, etc only give to their own
Sun May 5, 2013, 01:55 PM
May 2013

of course I am being sarcastic. you don't seem to be.

 

RC

(25,592 posts)
26. It is human nature to put your own group first. Those your already know.
Sun May 5, 2013, 04:18 PM
May 2013

'Others', those you don't know, or don't know as well, to a lesser extent.

siligut

(12,272 posts)
37. Going against human nature is the value of religion
Mon May 6, 2013, 10:34 AM
May 2013

The higher power that Jesus, Buddha, Muhammad and the other prophets communed with sought to unify mankind.

But I agree with you completely, it is human nature to put ones own group first.

 

JackN415

(924 posts)
10. Where is the bowl for American Taliban? and when will he do experiments..
Sun May 5, 2013, 12:45 PM
May 2013

with political affiliation? I bet Democrat will need a 5-gallon container vs. a 5-oz bowl for you-know-who.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
17. Agreed
Sun May 5, 2013, 01:43 PM
May 2013

No way would it be representative either. Depending on where he is, too - some areas will not have a representative number of Muslims, for instance. So if he's in an average part of America, Christian and atheist should fill up fastest just due to numbers.

 

JackN415

(924 posts)
28. We both know that it takes significant enlightenment to be
Sun May 5, 2013, 04:55 PM
May 2013

atheist and agnostic, as one can devise one's own path without relying to fiction written by somebody in the name of god thousand years ago

MADem

(135,425 posts)
45. I want to know what a SPIRITAL is...anything like a SPIROGRAPH?
Fri May 10, 2013, 04:33 PM
May 2013

And why do they have a bowl that looks like a shrunken rasta hat?

TeamPooka

(24,229 posts)
14. Divide and conquer. I like to tell folks that argue for "a religious ie: Christian" government
Sun May 5, 2013, 01:35 PM
May 2013

"I'm all for it. All you have to do is have everyone agree on the "one" true correct religion to be in charge.
Which will it be I ask? Pick one, Baptist, Lutheran, Catholic etc..."
About then then give up their premise and finally understand the value of religious freedom....

Zephie

(1,363 posts)
30. Everything in the Pagan bowl probably came from a single persons pocket
Mon May 6, 2013, 12:06 AM
May 2013

There just aren't enough of us to be properly represented. The fact that there was even one of us out there to donate that crossed the mans path is impressive IMO.

intheflow

(28,479 posts)
34. Bullshit test not indicative of anything.
Mon May 6, 2013, 10:08 AM
May 2013

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What are the demographics where he's set up? How may people of each belief walked by him, how many of those people had cash on them, or cash to spare? Was he in an arts district? Outside MIT? A few feet away from a church, mosque or temple? It's only a ploy to pit people against each other.

cleanhippie

(19,705 posts)
44. Then we are in complete agreement! Claims like a man coming back from the dead...
Mon May 6, 2013, 01:36 PM
May 2013

And all claims of supernatural occurrences made by religion, all bullshit.

 

Egalitarian Thug

(12,448 posts)
47. LOL! You guys are just so fucking funny.
Fri May 10, 2013, 04:55 PM
May 2013

"How dare you display the hypocrisy and meanness of people like me!"

Donald Ian Rankin

(13,598 posts)
48. You don't mean to say he might have some ulterior motive beyond pure scientific curiosity?
Fri May 10, 2013, 06:02 PM
May 2013

Surely not! The scoundrel!

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
35. His test is working ...
Mon May 6, 2013, 10:14 AM
May 2013

Notice how even on DU, he's got folks all worked up. That's the real goal. Get a passerby worked up enough to drop some cash, doesn't matter which bowl the money goes in. He's not going to write it down and keep score or write a paper for a Journal.

But if he can get folks on DU worked up with a pic, you know folks passing by will have to do something.

cleanhippie

(19,705 posts)
40. It seems the only ones getting worked up are those that think this reflects the behavior
Mon May 6, 2013, 11:03 AM
May 2013

of those that share a particular belief system.

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
43. Exactly ...
Mon May 6, 2013, 12:17 PM
May 2013

and imagine how much more salient it is when some one actually walks past him.

We're seeing this from a safe distance ... and some are getting worked up even then ... even with distance and time to think it through ... people walking past won't have that distance. Their reactions will likely be more pronounced.

And he gets more money ... very smart.

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