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Starry Messenger

(32,342 posts)
Mon May 6, 2013, 09:27 AM May 2013

ALEC has a "most wanted" list of critics--scary.

What creeps, they assembled a list of names and headshots of their persons of interest to block access to their event.

http://www.prwatch.org/news/2013/05/12096/alec-assembles-most-wanted-list-and-oklahomans-say-alec-not-ok



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Center for Media and Democracy Research Director Nick Surgey obtained press credentials at the ALEC registration desk. As he ascended the escalator towards the room where Governor Fallin was speaking, though, he was spotted by two ALEC staffers, and within minutes approached by a uniformed Oklahoma City police officer.

"I need those credentials," the officer said.

"I registered," Surgey replied.

"No you didn't," said a female ALEC staffer, who was accompanying the officer.

“I did, downstairs," he said.

“It was…you shouldn’t have been able to.”

The reason Surgey shouldn't have been allowed to register, according to the ALEC staffer, is “Because we know who you are.”

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ALEC has a "most wanted" list of critics--scary. (Original Post) Starry Messenger May 2013 OP
If ALEC has an "enemies list", I'd be honored to be on it. Scuba May 2013 #1
I had hopes also rurallib May 2013 #19
And they criticize the government for wanting to keep a gun registration file....go figure. kelliekat44 May 2013 #36
Letter to Alec ashling May 2013 #39
"enemies list?" Nixon would be proud... Blue_Tires May 2013 #2
Exactly right. Starry Messenger May 2013 #3
... and Hitler. Ian_rd May 2013 #12
ALEC is a genuine conspiracy. Newest Reality May 2013 #4
Great link, thank you. Starry Messenger May 2013 #6
Great! Newest Reality May 2013 #8
yes, it is. proving once again that conspiracy is human sop. ALEC has been around since 1973, HiPointDem May 2013 #15
Have to give Fresh Air credit for doing a broadcast on ALEC Patiod May 2013 #43
This is one creepy organization sunwyn May 2013 #5
Sounds like a facism party Iliyah May 2013 #7
ALEC is the wire brush JEB May 2013 #9
Now there's a definiition for ya! ;-) ReRe May 2013 #13
I prefer to say ALEC is the hot poker meow2u3 May 2013 #20
Lol, great description of ALEC. The more people who are aware of what was apparently quite sabrina 1 May 2013 #22
Seriously, ALEC and kindred organizations are out to get us. JEB May 2013 #26
Good for you for not playing the game. I hope more people will begin to realize the threat sabrina 1 May 2013 #30
kr HiPointDem May 2013 #10
Kick - I just put that ALEC Exposed website in my favorites LeftInTX May 2013 #11
This is a short and informative video on ALEC's methods siligut May 2013 #14
ALEC is a cancer, pure and simple nadinbrzezinski May 2013 #16
Ditto for Club For Growth and Amerikkkans For Prosperity lastlib May 2013 #17
Also NFIB, JEB May 2013 #47
Well, Surgey needs a haircut. That hippy look ChairmanAgnostic May 2013 #18
K&R dmr May 2013 #21
ALEC is pure corporatist evil. nt Zorra May 2013 #23
Add Big Brother to that. Much more afraid of people paid so well to shut up people than government. freshwest May 2013 #24
Even Teacher Sabrina made Teh List. Starry Messenger May 2013 #25
I don't think they like my friends and me much either. Zorra May 2013 #48
K & R !!! WillyT May 2013 #27
No surprise Lee Fang of the Nation is in that group. octoberlib May 2013 #28
Thank you octoberlib. Starry Messenger May 2013 #29
Now we should use their own tactics against them and start a Hall of Fame for reporters on ALEC's sabrina 1 May 2013 #32
Lee Fang just did an article on the proliferation of conservative octoberlib May 2013 #33
He is a great film maker and it is a shame that there appears to be so many people with sabrina 1 May 2013 #38
I'll send the link now to the person who schedules the films for our Church Patiod May 2013 #44
How come I'm not on it? KamaAina May 2013 #31
One would think, naaman fletcher May 2013 #34
Wonder how the owners of the corporations funding ALEC feel? Comfortably numb. nt raouldukelives May 2013 #35
. blkmusclmachine May 2013 #37
Don't miss this goodie on ALEC's "forced privatization" bill coming to a state near you. hedda_foil May 2013 #40
Holy crap. Starry Messenger May 2013 #41
K&R abelenkpe May 2013 #42
Why aren't we working on presenting this group as Skidmore May 2013 #45
If I'm not on that list, please add me. Coyotl May 2013 #46

rurallib

(62,460 posts)
19. I had hopes also
Mon May 6, 2013, 12:14 PM
May 2013

I was actually introduced at a meeting as one of the people who exposed ALEC in my state

 

kelliekat44

(7,759 posts)
36. And they criticize the government for wanting to keep a gun registration file....go figure.
Tue May 7, 2013, 12:15 AM
May 2013

Do these idiots even realize what they sound like?

Newest Reality

(12,712 posts)
4. ALEC is a genuine conspiracy.
Mon May 6, 2013, 09:55 AM
May 2013

That is, unless you consider "behind closed doors" efforts to give major corporations. (and the people who run them) a normal part of your system and rightfully conducting business this way.

It even took a while for this tentacle of the Koch Political Toolbox (tm) to be seen on the radar.

Now it is becoming clear that they are making greater efforts to keep as much of their actions as private or exclusive as possible and that's not a good sign.

ALEC Exposed is an interesting watchdog and their summation is:

Through the corporate-funded American Legislative Exchange Council, global corporations and state politicians vote behind closed doors to try to rewrite state laws that govern your rights. These so-called "model bills" reach into almost every area of American life and often directly benefit huge corporations.

In ALEC's own words, corporations have "a VOICE and a VOTE" on specific changes to the law that are then proposed in your state. DO YOU? Numerous resources to help us expose ALEC are provided below. We have also created links to detailed discussions of key issues, which are available on the left.


http://www.alecexposed.org/wiki/ALEC_Exposed

They are by no means the only source on this topic. If you are concerned about just how many tentacles of contrivance have reached into your government, local or national, this is an important subject. There are far more things going on out of view than we can imagine.

Starry Messenger

(32,342 posts)
6. Great link, thank you.
Mon May 6, 2013, 10:09 AM
May 2013

I was just talking to an older activist last weekend who hadn't heard of ALEC. Although we talk about them here on DU all the time, I didn't really have anything distilled down to describe it to him.

Newest Reality

(12,712 posts)
8. Great!
Mon May 6, 2013, 10:24 AM
May 2013

Thanks for letting me know you were not aware of it. That's the kicker, ey?

We are busy here talking party this vs. party that, "voting" and many are watching a corporate media show of celebration and "values" while a insidious cabal works to undermine what is left of our notions of liberty and justice. I am not being sensationalistic or exaggerating when I say that.

And, as I said, this is the more obvious aspect of the Junta whose revolution started a long time ago and is in full gear now. The new method seems to be a covert, (yet seemingly legitimate) way of subverting and influencing our body politic while still maintaining a beleivable facade of "democracy" or "representation".

It is rather overwhelming, but keep in mind that putting the spotlight on it is a part of the solution. A flashlight sure helps when you have rats in your basement. As we can see by ALEC's devastating impact on certain states, this is one conspiracy that needs to be exposed, and reckoned with or deal with the consequences of what can be considered a neo-Fascist threat. It comes in various styles and flavors.

ALEC is a corporate bill mill. It is not just a lobby or a front group; it is much more powerful than that. Through ALEC, corporations hand state legislators their wishlists to benefit their bottom line. Corporations fund almost all of ALEC's operations. They pay for a seat on ALEC task forces where corporate lobbyists and special interest reps vote with elected officials to approve “model” bills.
 

HiPointDem

(20,729 posts)
15. yes, it is. proving once again that conspiracy is human sop. ALEC has been around since 1973,
Mon May 6, 2013, 11:17 AM
May 2013

part of the 'excess of democracy' counter-revolution from the right and the neoliberal 'left'.

Patiod

(11,816 posts)
43. Have to give Fresh Air credit for doing a broadcast on ALEC
Tue May 7, 2013, 09:00 AM
May 2013

Last summer. The interview with the US Representative who was a member who was willing to come on and defend his membership was as damning as the interview with the people who are working to expose the group.

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
13. Now there's a definiition for ya! ;-)
Mon May 6, 2013, 11:08 AM
May 2013

... dayam that sounds very very very painful. ALEC is no one's friend.

meow2u3

(24,774 posts)
20. I prefer to say ALEC is the hot poker
Mon May 6, 2013, 12:46 PM
May 2013

corporations use to ram their fascist agenda up our asses.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
22. Lol, great description of ALEC. The more people who are aware of what was apparently quite
Mon May 6, 2013, 02:28 PM
May 2013

an 'underground' movement, the less power they will have.

For over 30 years they were able to do their dirty work virtually undetected before they were finally exposed to the light of day. Apparently, like kochroaches, they cannot stand the light.

 

JEB

(4,748 posts)
26. Seriously, ALEC and kindred organizations are out to get us.
Mon May 6, 2013, 04:26 PM
May 2013

Years ago, when I first stated my little Junque Shop the NFIB came around and said they lobbied for small businesses like mine, so I ponied up the dues. Over the course of the year, I saw that they were not lobbying in my best interests. When the guy came around to see why I had not renewed my membership, I explained that he was lobbying the exact opposite on nearly all issues. He became quite angry and stormed out. Now, whenever I see the NFIB sticker in a small shop or business, I always say something about how they really do not represent the interests of small business.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
30. Good for you for not playing the game. I hope more people will begin to realize the threat
Mon May 6, 2013, 05:17 PM
May 2013

organizations like ALEC are to this nation. But it's really up to us, as the media certainly won't do it.

siligut

(12,272 posts)
14. This is a short and informative video on ALEC's methods
Mon May 6, 2013, 11:15 AM
May 2013

Pulitzer Prize winning cartoonist Mark Fiore
shows how a bill becomes a law ALEC style.

lastlib

(23,316 posts)
17. Ditto for Club For Growth and Amerikkkans For Prosperity
Mon May 6, 2013, 12:09 PM
May 2013

to me, these organizations and the right-wing "think-tanks" are the main reason that corporations and billionaires need to be taxed into oblivion.

 

JEB

(4,748 posts)
47. Also NFIB,
Tue May 7, 2013, 12:17 PM
May 2013

National Federation of Independent Businesses. Sell themselves as lobbying for small business, but pretty much follow the Right Wing (fascist) agenda. Lots of little shop owners fall for this and pay dues to an organization that actually does them great harm.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
24. Add Big Brother to that. Much more afraid of people paid so well to shut up people than government.
Mon May 6, 2013, 03:33 PM
May 2013

Their method is solely based on private property determines who will step foot where, who will speak, who will have power. Pure fascism from the Koches.

Starry Messenger

(32,342 posts)
25. Even Teacher Sabrina made Teh List.
Mon May 6, 2013, 04:11 PM
May 2013

She tweets and blogs, she's hardly got much of a soapbox. It's creepy that they ran down any person no matter what, who said mean things about them.

octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
28. No surprise Lee Fang of the Nation is in that group.
Mon May 6, 2013, 05:01 PM
May 2013

He's done some excellent articles exposing ALEC. Another good source is the Bill Moyers' documentary The United States of ALEC. http://billmoyers.com/episode/full-show-united-states-of-alec/

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
32. Now we should use their own tactics against them and start a Hall of Fame for reporters on ALEC's
Mon May 6, 2013, 05:23 PM
May 2013

'enemies' list calling them heroes. ALEC is now on the run after 40 years of secrecy, of writing our laws, of buying our politicians, many Corps who were funding them have been shamed into dropping their membership. The pressure needs to continue and increase until they are GONE.

Color For Change has done great work on exposing Politicians affiliated with ALEC, causing some of them to drop their endorsements of the anti-Constitutional Organization.

I wonder how many more secret organizations working to subvert the Constitution and take over our Government there are? I would have thought this to be inconceivable just a couple of years ago.

Who has been minding the store here??

octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
33. Lee Fang just did an article on the proliferation of conservative
Mon May 6, 2013, 05:41 PM
May 2013

think tanks in every state. They're swimming in money.

Robert Greenwald is taking some action in conjunction with his doc.

But you have to ask: Who’s going to watch, or even hear about, Koch Brothers Exposed? The film isn't being released to theaters, since Greenwald reckoned few moviegoers would be willing to pony up $10 or more to see a no-frills documentary about a couple of oldster ideologues, however powerful or well researched. So to get the word out Brave New Films has teamed up with 40-plus progressive membership organizations and labor unions to form a far-flung anti-Koch coalition. The idea is that groups and individuals will hold screenings everywhere from their homes to bowling alleys, church basements, college campuses, and union halls. "The ultimate goal," Greenwald told Alternet, another partner, is "organize, organize — and then, organize." (Lefty activists are notoriously single-issue, but the all-enveloping reach of the Kochtopus makes opposing the brothers something all liberals can get behind: education, environment, labor rights, campaign finance, corporate malfeasance – everyone’s cause is on the line.) Available via streaming outlets and cable video-on-demand starting May 8, the film has the potential at least to reach beyond the choir into millions of American homes.



Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/national-affairs/the-koch-brothers-exposed-20120420#ixzz2SYDdWmdg
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sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
38. He is a great film maker and it is a shame that there appears to be so many people with
Tue May 7, 2013, 01:14 AM
May 2013

money who are willing to donate to those ruining this country and practically none willing to donate to someone like Greenwald.

Where are all the wealthy progressives? Surely there must be a few. There appears to be no shortage on the Right.

Thank you for the info on. I will spread the word as far as I can.

Patiod

(11,816 posts)
44. I'll send the link now to the person who schedules the films for our Church
Tue May 7, 2013, 09:04 AM
May 2013

We have a "Peace and Social Concerns" working group, and they host films at their meetings. This would be perfect.

hedda_foil

(16,375 posts)
40. Don't miss this goodie on ALEC's "forced privatization" bill coming to a state near you.
Tue May 7, 2013, 01:25 AM
May 2013


"Jane Carter, an economist at AFSCME, identified the problems with the ALEC privatization agenda, particularly the Public-Private Fair Competition Act, a "forced privatization" bill that requires public services be turned over to corporate control if private industry claims they can do the service; this bill was recently introduced in Michigan. Phillip Martin of Progress Texas described how ALEC's healthcare agenda -- particularly its adoption of the Health Care Compact, which asserts state control over health care -- could be used to thwart federal healthcare reform."

Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
45. Why aren't we working on presenting this group as
Tue May 7, 2013, 09:11 AM
May 2013

unAmerican, because its goals are certainly that. In fact, consider them to be treasonous in that they actively seek to subvert the election process and the governance of this nation.

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