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stockholmer

(3,751 posts)
Tue Feb 7, 2012, 06:28 PM Feb 2012

Obama’s Refi Plan Is Another Bank Bailout, Stockman Says: 140% loan to value insanity(video + story)

http://finance.yahoo.com/blogs/daily-ticker/obama-refi-plan-another-bank-bailout-stockman-says-131457764.html

(video at link)

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"This is ultimately at the end of the day a bailout for JP Morgan and Wells Fargo," and other big underwriters of second mortgages and home equity lines, Stockman says. "Those [second liens] are in great jeopardy because of homeowners way under water on primary mortgages and are likely to default or throw in the keys at some point down the road."

Furthermore, the plan would create "FHA-sponsored subprime slime" that refinances homes at up to 140% loan to value, "something even Angelo Mozilo never attempted," Stockman observes. "The White House proposed financing scheme is a lie because they will drastically underestimate the losses due to the amount of jingle mail the FHA will get from underwater borrowers who will default over the next 30 years."

Stockman isn't necessarily opposed to the government imposing fees on big banks but says it should be used for deficit reduction, not another scheme to artificially prop up the housing market. Obama's plan is "the worst kind of crony socialism," according to Stockman, who says it's time to end "government meddling" in the housing market, not to mention taxpayer-funded bailouts of the 'too big to fail' banks.

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Obama’s Refi Plan Is Another Bank Bailout, Stockman Says: 140% loan to value insanity(video + story) (Original Post) stockholmer Feb 2012 OP
Why are you posting this right-wing horseshit here? TheWraith Feb 2012 #1
who the hell is this Stockman? He sounds like an asshole after I've seen 2 of his quotes Obama3_16 Feb 2012 #2
Reagan's OMB guy. LeftyMom Feb 2012 #4
Pathetic that some here are so obsessed with bashing Obama as a "corporatist"... TheWraith Feb 2012 #8
Oh brother. Well, they can FUCK OFF!! Because if even a fraction of underwater homeowners Obama3_16 Feb 2012 #9
David Stockman, Reagan's budget guy? That David Stockman? LeftyMom Feb 2012 #3
Stockman disavowed supply-side economics around 25 years ago stockholmer Feb 2012 #12
Yeah, I know. He's still a blooming idiot. LeftyMom Feb 2012 #13
Of course a Republican would spin it SunsetDreams Feb 2012 #5
Naturally, I agree with the sentiment expressed throughout this thread. WHY????? Tarheel_Dem Feb 2012 #6
Congratulations WilliamPitt Feb 2012 #7
Well, the poster is from Stockholm...I'd cut him a little slack. Old and In the Way Feb 2012 #10
*sigh* WilliamPitt Feb 2012 #11
actually no, Stockman disavowed it back in the 80's, and an attempt to bail out the big banks and stockholmer Feb 2012 #15
Didn't he trash Bush also? Let me check it out. But some of Reagan's former cabinet sabrina 1 Feb 2012 #16
Dude. Really? You're seriously posting DevonRex Feb 2012 #14
"Obama’s Refi Plan Is Another Bank Bailout, Stockman Says: 'The Worst Kind of Crony Socialism'" ProSense Feb 2012 #17

TheWraith

(24,331 posts)
1. Why are you posting this right-wing horseshit here?
Tue Feb 7, 2012, 06:32 PM
Feb 2012

"Crony socialism" wasn't a big enough tip-off that this was asinine bullshit? Or was it the complaint about "government meddling" in the banking market?

TheWraith

(24,331 posts)
8. Pathetic that some here are so obsessed with bashing Obama as a "corporatist"...
Tue Feb 7, 2012, 06:48 PM
Feb 2012

...that they'll turn to right-wing drivel like this, drank straight from the nipple of the free-market true believers.

 

Obama3_16

(157 posts)
9. Oh brother. Well, they can FUCK OFF!! Because if even a fraction of underwater homeowners
Tue Feb 7, 2012, 06:51 PM
Feb 2012

can avoid foreclosure by using this it will be a HELL OF A LOT BETTER use of money than bonues to the fucksticks at Goldman Sachs.

SunsetDreams

(8,571 posts)
5. Of course a Republican would spin it
Tue Feb 7, 2012, 06:40 PM
Feb 2012
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Stockman

"Former U.S. politician and businessman, serving as a Republican U.S. Representative from the state of Michigan (1977–1981) and as the Director of the Office of Management and Budget (1981–1985)."

WOW. No agenda there.

Old and In the Way

(37,540 posts)
10. Well, the poster is from Stockholm...I'd cut him a little slack.
Tue Feb 7, 2012, 07:06 PM
Feb 2012

OT, did you get the HC newsletter today? Lead story is about Clarance Thomas...seems the school is honoring this POS.

 

stockholmer

(3,751 posts)
15. actually no, Stockman disavowed it back in the 80's, and an attempt to bail out the big banks and
Tue Feb 7, 2012, 09:50 PM
Feb 2012

re-inflate the housing bubble with such instruments as 140% to value re-fi's is utter madness. It will result in billions in fraud, and ultimately, hundreds of billions in further bailouts for the banksters, as they leverage up their new found 'gifts'.

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David Stockman Says US Has Run Out Of Runway On Debt, Compares The Treasury Market To A Roach Hotel




http://www.zerohedge.com/article/david-stockman-says-us-has-run-out-runway-when-it-comes-raising-debt-ceiling-endorses-tobin

David Stockman has become every major news organization's (and CNBC) go to critic when it comes to bashing each stupid idea currently preoccupying the DC C-grade soap opera artists. Obviously, at the current time this would mean the budget deficit and the debt ceiling. On both those issues, Stockman's position is well-known. Today, when asked by Bloomberg's Tom Keene to compare the current deficit with that of Reagan's, Stockman spares no praise: "The essential distinction is that we had a clean balance sheet then - $1 trillion of national debt. Today we have $14 trillion in national debt.

We have used up all the runway, so to speak. We have piled our national balance sheet with so much debt that the government is at the very edge of a huge solvency crisis that isn't going to be addressed unless both parties dramatically change their position, and I see no sign of it. So we're going to have a gong show." Stockman also opines on the Monetary Roach Hotel that the US debt has become: "We have not had a two-way bond market. We have had a rigged market that has been dominated by not just the Fed, but all the central banks. Today over half of the $9 trillion in publicly-held debt is in central bank vaults.

I call it the 'Monetary Roach Hotel.'" Lastly, on a proposal endorsed by Zero Hedge back in the summer of 2009, namely the introduction of a Tobin tax for Wall Street's high-frequency casino: "Wall Street needs to have a transaction tax. I know they won't like it. A tax on every trade, a small amount, would go a long way to putting money in the coffers." As usual: absolutely spot on recommendations, which have little to no chance of occurring before the final bond crash finally takes away the multiple-use heroin needle from both DC and Wall Street.

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"I think the more important thing is the annual deficit to GDP. It should be a balance over the cycle, but we have not had any balance over the cycle for decades…We were petrified in 1982 when the deficit went to 6%, the highest ever seen. Reagan, although he is known as a great tax cutter, signed a huge tax increase bill in 1982 at the bottom of the worst recession that we'd had up until then and raised taxes by the tune of 1.5% of GDP.".............................................

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
16. Didn't he trash Bush also? Let me check it out. But some of Reagan's former cabinet
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 01:17 AM
Feb 2012

members seem to have seen the light over the years. Brb!

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
17. "Obama’s Refi Plan Is Another Bank Bailout, Stockman Says: 'The Worst Kind of Crony Socialism'"
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 01:22 AM
Feb 2012

Are people really trying to push an article with this title?

Stockman isn't necessarily opposed to the government imposing fees on big banks but says it should be used for deficit reduction, not another scheme to artificially prop up the housing market. Obama's plan is "the worst kind of crony socialism," according to Stockman, who says it's time to end "government meddling" in the housing market, not to mention taxpayer-funded bailouts of the 'too big to fail' banks.


RW drivel? Really?

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