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Savannahmann

(3,891 posts)
Tue May 7, 2013, 11:01 PM May 2013

Gerrymandering, and what it means

Lots of cheerleaders here will tell us often, and loudly, about how we will take the House. As was evidenced by the election in South Carolina, the task is not just difficult. It is nearly impossible. Traditionally gerrymandering has been done to dilute the opponents power, but this time it wasn't. This time they maximized an opponents power within a few select districts, and set up stronger, safer districts for themselves. We saw Sanford win in a district that Romney carried +17. Look at the win ratios. We are winning by huge margins in our districts, while Republicans are winning bu good or fair margins in their districts. They did not dilute themselves to a little advantage to gain more seats, instead they went for a majority of safe seats.

We were up against the worst candidate in the world. When PolySci students are sitting around dreaming of future campaigns, they fantasize about going against an exposed adulterer who misused taxpayer funds to visit his mistress and lied about it. We did that and we lost. If we can't win this, there is so little hope to take the House it might as well be none.

We have to start dealing in reality, and recognizing the fact that the Republicans are not so dumb as we wish. They came up with a brilliant plan, and herded all of us into D+50 districts. Yeah we win there, we could run a decayed corpse and win there.

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Gerrymandering, and what it means (Original Post) Savannahmann May 2013 OP
Progressives should join the Republican Party in droves! Vinnie From Indy May 2013 #1
Yep, fool'em LeftInTX May 2013 #2
We can't bring any change, if we don't face reality. Savannahmann May 2013 #3
Why do we have to wait until the next census? Tom Delay didn't {redistricted in 2003} BlueCaliDem May 2013 #4
The Democrats would have to hold the state house Savannahmann May 2013 #5

Vinnie From Indy

(10,820 posts)
1. Progressives should join the Republican Party in droves!
Tue May 7, 2013, 11:49 PM
May 2013

If ya can't beat 'em, join 'em and then beat 'em!

Cheers!

 

Savannahmann

(3,891 posts)
3. We can't bring any change, if we don't face reality.
Wed May 8, 2013, 12:44 AM
May 2013

The reality is this. Until the next Census, and the redrawing of lines, there is little chance of affecting the outcome. In that case, we need to have the majority of the state house seats, so we can redraw the lines.

That means we have to win local elections at the state level. That is barely more possible that retaking the House under the current situation.

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
4. Why do we have to wait until the next census? Tom Delay didn't {redistricted in 2003}
Wed May 8, 2013, 01:02 AM
May 2013

and the courts up to the SCOTUS upheld the right to redistrict in an off-census year as constitutional.

Democrats in Democratic strongholds should counter the Republican gerrymandering with gerrymandering of their own. But, of course, they won't, and that's why the Democratic Party will never win from the Republicans in the House.

 

Savannahmann

(3,891 posts)
5. The Democrats would have to hold the state house
Wed May 8, 2013, 01:08 AM
May 2013

They don't in a majority of the states. That limits what we can do, and what we can hope to accomplish. If we start now, we have a chance to set up for 2020. If we continue deluding ourselves that next time we'll win because people really like us. We're going to be in the same situation for another decade.

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