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xchrom

(108,903 posts)
Wed May 8, 2013, 06:14 AM May 2013

It's All Too Easy to Get Fired in America: In 49 of 50 States, You Can Be Fired for Any Reason

http://www.alternet.org/economy/its-all-too-easy-get-fired-america-49-50-states-you-can-be-fired-any-reason




Don’t get too comfy at your desk, your job might not be as secure as you think. Anecdotal reports from labor lawyers and a few polls show that most Americans believe their bosses must have a good reason to kick them to the curb. We labor under the illusion of what Harvard labor economist Richard Freeman calls, “there’s-got-to-be-a-law syndrome.” We don’t want to believe someone can be fired because her boss finds her sexually irresistible. In every other industrialized democracy, that couldn’t legally happen, but in 49 of the 50 states there is no law requiring a just or reasonable cause for employee termination.

Most Americans can be legally fired for almost any reason. Private sector workplace relationships tend to operate under the standard of employment-at-will, which means you can be fired for the color of your shirt, your political views, supporting your favorite sports team or for refusing to fetch your boss a cup of coffee. The Bill of Rights does not apply to your office.

The protections in place are limited. Title VII of the Civil Rights Act prohibits “employment discrimination based on race, color, religion, sex and national origin.” (But not sexual orientation: while 21 states have anti-discrimination laws on their books, it is legal under federal law to be fired for your sexual preferences or gender identity.) The National Labor Relations Act theoretically protects workers trying to form a union or engage in “other concerted activities for the purpose of…mutual aid or protection,” but the law is notoriously weak and its sanctions rarely deter employers. Any union contract worthy of the name will include a just-cause clause, protecting workers from arbitrary termination while leaving room for management to act in case of economic necessity or poor job performance. But 93.4 percent of private sector workers don’t have a union, and serve at the whim of their employers.

Unless they live in Montana.
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byeya

(2,842 posts)
1. The "at will" concept works 100% to the advantage of management. Got to keep the proles and serfs
Wed May 8, 2013, 08:14 AM
May 2013

in a state of fear at all times.
Once there was a strong movement for workplace democracy but a succession of Repugs and Demicons in the WH
have helped put a stop to that kind of thinking.

Newest Reality

(12,712 posts)
2. Yes. Insecurity induces
Wed May 8, 2013, 08:24 AM
May 2013

fear and fear is a powerful and profitable tool.

The United Fear of America: "It's Ubiquitous!"

Sell us something to relieve it, please. Ah, can I charge that?

marmar

(77,091 posts)
3. Yep. The company I work for has employment policies that are deliberately oblique.
Wed May 8, 2013, 08:29 AM
May 2013

Workers' rights are sooo 20th century.


 

RevStPatrick

(2,208 posts)
5. I've never had a job that I wasn't ready to walk away from at a moment's notice.
Wed May 8, 2013, 09:09 AM
May 2013

Except for that very first job as a teenager, in one of those tee-shirt shops in the 70's with the big iron.
I loved that place, and was shocked when I went into work one day and it was just gone.
It taught me not to get too attached to a job.

I've probably had 12 jobs since then over the past 30 years.
And I've worked at some of them for 5, 7 and 8 years.
I got laid off once, and I got fired once, and quit all the others except for the current job.
If I had to leave my current job, I could be out of there in about 30 seconds.
I've got maybe 3 personal items in my desk, and I could easily live without any of them.

I've always found it sad and amusing, people who practically move into where ever they work.
Tons of personal items, and the sense that the job is a huge part of their identities.
And... I've seen way too many people like who lose the job, and then freak the fuck out!
I'll never allow that to happen to me again.
I'm a very hard worker and an honest and loyal human, but I don't really expect to have any "rights" when I'm on someone else's turf.

There is NO job security, unless you own the business.
And then there's THAT whole set of stresses.

Hotler

(11,445 posts)
7. The company I work for is an at will company and....
Wed May 8, 2013, 09:52 AM
May 2013

can fire me for any reason and at any time. I am an at will employee and can quit for any reason and at any time.

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