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alp227

(32,060 posts)
Wed May 8, 2013, 12:08 PM May 2013

Latest stupid "zero tolerance" story: Boy who held pencil like gun suspended

A Suffolk school suspended a second grader for pointing a pencil at another student and making gun noises.

Seven-year-old Christopher Marshall says he was playing with another student in class Friday, when the teacher at Driver Elementary asked them to stop pointing pencils at each other.

"When I asked him about it, he said, 'Well I was being a Marine and the other guy was being a bad guy,'" said Paul Marshall, the boy's father. "It's as simple as that."

Christopher's father was a Marine for many years. He thinks school leaders overreacted.

"A pencil is a weapon when it is pointed at someone in a threatening way and gun noises are made," said Bethanne Bradshaw, a spokesperson for Suffolk Public Schools.

full: http://www.wavy.com/dpp/news/local_news/suffolk/boy-who-held-pencil-like-gun-suspended

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Latest stupid "zero tolerance" story: Boy who held pencil like gun suspended (Original Post) alp227 May 2013 OP
Oy nadinbrzezinski May 2013 #1
But once home, there can be real guns, loaded, in the house treestar May 2013 #2
And yet, open carry loons terrorize the local J.C. Penney. onehandle May 2013 #3
this is stupid samsingh May 2013 #4
Sometimes a pencil is just a pencil. OnyxCollie May 2013 #5

treestar

(82,383 posts)
2. But once home, there can be real guns, loaded, in the house
Wed May 8, 2013, 12:14 PM
May 2013

And if he accidentally picks one up and kills a sibling or himself, it's just an accident.

 

OnyxCollie

(9,958 posts)
5. Sometimes a pencil is just a pencil.
Wed May 8, 2013, 12:18 PM
May 2013

This would be one of those times.

Now a pen, on the other hand, can clearly do some damage.

Detained in the U.S.: Filmmaker Laura Poitras Held, Questioned Some 40 Times at U.S. Airports
http://www.democracynow.org/2012/4/20/detained_in_the_us_filmmaker_laura

LAURA POITRAS: Yeah. So I was met by two agents at Newark. One of them is Agent Wassum. And I—when they met me, I took out my pen and paper to note their names and the time and—because I’ve always taken notes, so I have a record of the questions that I’m asked and how long I’m detained for, what’s the focus of the interrogation, what they are doing to me. And on this occasion, I took out my pen, and I was ordered to put away my pen. And I didn’t, and I continued to take notes. And I was ordered again to put away the pen, and I didn’t. And then he threatened to handcuff me for not putting away my pen. And at that point, I put away my pen and then walked to Immigration and took out my pen again to take notes, was ordered again to put away my pen, and then was taken into secondary screening. And I asked to speak to a supervisor, explained I was a journalist, explained that legal counsel has told me that I should be taking notes of my detention and interrogation. And then I was told that I couldn’t take notes, that I was free to take notes after I was finished being questioned. And then—

JUAN GONZALEZ: Under the theory that what? The pen was a weapon?

LAURA POITRAS: Oh, yeah, that’s right. They said that my pen was a dangerous weapon. So that’s what—that’s Agent Wassum who said that, that my pen was a threat to them. And, you know, I mean, in terms of the context, you have to understand that I’m surrounded by border agents who are all carrying guns, and I’m taking out, you know, a pen that they find threatening. And so, this was, you know, profoundly upsetting. And then I was taken into—I was taken directly into an interrogation room and questioned. I took out my pen again. I was ordered by another agent to put it away. And this went on for quite some time. And I was told during this interrogation—I mean, I’m always asserting my rights as a journalist to not reveal my work, my sources.

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