I'll trade out an apology on their part for a bullet each between the eyes.

Also, please don't advocate violence, especially gun violence.

Preferably in the groin?

It has to be a steel toed boot.

I hate gun violence, but shoe violence (especially chanclas) are common for my family. Not my household, just my family.

That was in the past. Libruls should get over the war and quit blaming Bush ll.

yup

to skip accountability and deliver it to him. Turn the page? Sure, 'cause the next page says President Obama on it!
When he did that, many here said if we held Bushco to any account, nothing would get done. Of course nothing got done anyway.
Obama absolved the torture masters thinking he was making some unspoken deal among elites that he too would be permitted great leeway by the opposition.

That Obama is 1000000000x better a human being than the repugs can ever hope to be!

He did what he thought was best for the country, they don't give a damn and pull this partisan bullshit.

the way it was at the end of double dumb's administration, giving the country time to heal takes precedence.

I see it as him deciding that getting the economy fixed and the ACA passed was a better way of spending political capital than partaking in a bitter political battle that would only further divide the country and increase the partisanship that is already eating away at us.

The Repugs, on the other hand, only care about tearing Obama down and are willing to destroy this country in the process. This is why they go after him for pseudo-scandal after pseudo-scandal and are willing to destroy this country's economy in the process by holding the debt ceiling as a hostage in their perverse game.

Obama chooses the politics of positivity in order to heal the country and let it prosper,

the Repugs, as always, choose the politics of destruction, and whatever gets in the way be damned!!!

The more we forgive, out of convenience and forgetfulness, for things that do not deserve forgiveness.

These men and women are war criminals. Letting them go free is goddamn insane. It is truly utter madness. Justice does not require a cooling off period. It is not of secondary importance to anything else. It is always of primary importance.

To let these thugs continue living free of consequence is, in essence, to be complicit in delivering a message that the law and basic human decency does not apply to every citizen. That is a terrible stance to take.

We can choose whether to focus on the past or we can choose to focus on the future and save those who are still alive. Would it be better to waste political capital going after these men and divide the nation? Or to get the Affordable Care Act passed.

It took Obama almost all the capital he had to get the ACA passed. That will save lives.

Choosing to go after Bush would have looked partisan, possibly cost him his re-election, and probably would have not ended with them being brought to Justice as the Conservative SCotUS would have saved him as they did when the selected him.

In an ideal world we could go after them and have gotten the ACA passed. But this is not an ideal world. It is a cold dark world in which injustice reigns. This means we are faced with hard choices. Given this, I think focusing on the living should be our priority.

I hate Double Dumb's administration with a passion, but hate only leads to more hate, pain and suffering. I would rather let go of my hate and save those I can. I believe Obama made the right choice. You are free to disagree.

So your argument makes no sense.

You're making excuses for letting a bunch of murderous fascists off the hook.

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Going after Double Dumb would have divided the country and been seen as partisan as the debt crisis bullshit the repugs wasted their capital on following the mid-terms. Speaking of which, after pursuing the ACA the Repugs made gains in the house and senate. Obama was out of capital following the passage of the ACA and the repugs made gains.

So again, I feel he did as he always does, and made the best decision for the country

I doubt you and I are ever going to agree on this. So lets agree to disagree

not by a long shot

and it'll be an all out war.

I'm ready. Just one needs to go for it, the rest need to just keep it going.

but it will make some feel good I guess.

like those that unplug a fire hydrant full blast
keep it on all day and it's 100 outside

til later in the day there is a fire
and the fire hydrant is empty and the house burns down

only one who is happy is the arsonist who opened the hydrant in the first place, to watch the ashes

they want the democratic party to get down in the gutter
because they can deal with that

Reminds me of Jackie Robinson. What his enemies couldn't deal with is that they couldn't phase him, that he stared them down and remained calm and cool in the face of 100% negatism thrown at him.

Dr. King knew that too. Never stoop to their level.
They can't defeat it.

Stoop to their level and one already lost.

They can't touch President Obama, and in actuality, they are HELPING Hillary.
I predict 100 million votes for her in 2016.(the record is I think 69).

Benghazi involved deaths and 9/11 involved many more deaths but Bush was revered for it.

For god fucking sake G. W. Bush and the Cheney cabal were so asleep at the wheel it isn't even debatable.

Why the fuck did they give the Repukes a free pass? This is fucking ridiculous. I'm fucking feed up with the Refucks.

GOD DAMN IT! WHY THE FUCK DO THE DEMS GIVE THEM A FREE FUCKING PASS TO BE ASLEEP AT THE WHEEL DURING 9/11???

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I don't care for capital punishment for "civilians" but I wouldn't mind seeing any member of the previous regime hanged.

Each new administration would be focused on the previous administration rather than moving forward. Also, if we actually started executing them, who would want to be president?

Sadly that's a valid point. But this is a venting thread more than anything else, I think. People (including me) raging against their own powerlessness.

*Edit: corrected a grammatical error.