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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhere is this country headed if the Republicans cannot separate themselves from the Tea Party??
Speaking as just a plain old American, I shudder to think of where we may be going with John Boehner and Eric Cantor at the helm. But I don't think it is a good direction?
It is the liberals that are the true conservatives. Huh? Yes, it is mostly the conservatives that want to change the status quo so as the top 1% get more and more. The liberals would like to keep the good jobs and wages and Social Security and Medicare benefits. In other words, they would like to keep the status quo, primarily, except on a few social issues.
So which most closely fits the classic definition of a "conservative"?
If we cannot agree that liberals are more conservative than so-called "conservatives", then perhaps we could agree that this present bunch of Republicans are certainly not conservatives in any sense of the word...?
(edited the last statement from a statement to a question)
AlinPA
(15,071 posts)term. The idiot-crazy teabaggers have taken over.
still_one
(92,190 posts)pinto
(106,886 posts)Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Somewhere about the time Reagan was elected things started changing, as explained "trickle down economics" was going to fix everything. He hit unions hard, trying to break the backs of hard working people, wages started sliding, ergo the trickle down. Somewhere the dixiecrats started changing to the Republican party and redefined conservatives as antiabortion and fundamental. But they also brought their dislike if anyone who was not white. The churches also changed, instead of compassionate members the hate really started showing there. Then Koch brothers got the tea party going, this group of dixiecrats saw a limb and grabbed onto it, claimed it for their own. The old Republicans only saw votes, anything to beat the Democrats and guess what the Republicans did win but this group which hang onto these outrageous ideas has control over the Republicans and the results are terrible. Again without the strength to back down the TP bunch so goes this country unless Democrats gets the vote out and turn this country around.
kentuck
(111,097 posts)The present day Democrats are closer to the moderate old Republicans than are these Tea Baggers... Both Parties have to reach agreement not to let the Tea Baggers take over. In effect, they are like a strong Third Party that has sucked in weak-kneed Republcans and are not good for this country.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)I hope one of these days the old repubs will count the numbers and with Democrats we can start governing, good post.
Bushitler Cheney
(2 posts)All those tax cuts and deregulations were to line the pockets of the oil companies. The glory days were when taxes on the rich we're 90%. The rich have done more to hurt the poor than any other force in history. All economics is bogus. Investments don't matter if families can't feed themselves. Living standards for the middle class were better in the dark ages.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Parable Arable
(126 posts)The destruction of the modern Republican party.
I also kinda hope that the modern Democratic party will become large enough to split into two parties (moderates vs progressives).
randome
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Populist_Prole
(5,364 posts)One that the right will lose due to the demographics being against them. Even if it happens in our lifetimes, they'll have done a helluva lot of damage on their way out. Then again, that's probably their intent anyway.
PennsylvaniaMatt
(966 posts)I was just talking with a neighbor who I have known for quite a while being that she is the mother of my friend, but this was the first time I had an in-depth conversation with her. When we started talking about politics, I was surprised to find out that she is a Republican and her older husband is a Democrat. She is not your stereotypical Republican. The family is your average, middle class family...not super religious or super patriotic. We talked about the direction of the Republican party and how, in recent years, it has largely become the party of either very disadvantaged white, rural families that tend to be not very education, or the party of the very wealthy.
Democrats always tend to get the majority of middle class Americans, not super wealthy, super religious, or super patriotic, and Republicans would always get a decent number of votes from that group, in addition to their base. In 2010, many middle of the road voters that voted for the Tea Party did not know what to expect. The Tea Party hurt many Republicans in local and state races in 2012 (i.e. Aiken, Murdoch, etc.), yet Romney did okay among middle class Americans. It will be interesting to see the ramifications of the Tea Party in 2016 if one of their candidates, like Rand Paul, is on the ticket.