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Tony_FLADEM

(3,023 posts)
Tue May 14, 2013, 11:24 AM May 2013

Rich Manhattan moms hire handicapped tour guides so kids can cut lines at Disney World

They are 1 percenters who are 100 percent despicable.

Some wealthy Manhattan moms have figured out a way to cut the long lines at Disney World — by hiring disabled people to pose as family members so they and their kids can jump to the front, The Post has learned.


The “black-market Disney guides” run $130 an hour, or $1,040 for an eight-hour day.

“My daughter waited one minute to get on ‘It’s a Small World’ — the other kids had to wait 2 1/2 hours,” crowed one mom, who hired a disabled guide through Dream Tours Florida.

“You can’t go to Disney without a tour concierge,’’ she sniffed. “This is how the 1 percent does Disney.”

The woman said she hired a Dream Tours guide to escort her, her husband and their 1-year-old son and 5-year-old daughter through the park in a motorized scooter with a “handicapped” sign on it. The group was sent straight to an auxiliary entrance at the front of each attraction.

Disney allows each guest who needs a wheelchair or motorized scooter to bring up to six guests to a “more convenient entrance.”

The Florida entertainment mecca warns that there “may be a waiting period before boarding.” But the consensus among upper-crust moms who have used the illicit handicap tactic is that the trick is well worth the cost.


http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/disney_world_srich_kid_outrage_zTBA0xrvZRkIVc1zItXGDP

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Rich Manhattan moms hire handicapped tour guides so kids can cut lines at Disney World (Original Post) Tony_FLADEM May 2013 OP
Right-wingers will probably blame Ted Kennedy for his work on ADA. bullwinkle428 May 2013 #1
If disabled people want to work, this is hardly a bad gig for them. cbdo2007 May 2013 #2
Making $100+ an hour for going on the rides at Disney does sound like a pretty sweet job. hughee99 May 2013 #4
That's what the 1%ers pay loyalsister May 2013 #30
i hoped desperately this was an Onion piece... pnwest May 2013 #3
It's not really so much a "belief", it's reality. Rules that apply to us DON'T apply to them. HughBeaumont May 2013 #6
When a grand is literally meaningless, you too can do things like this. I'm still waiting for our Egalitarian Thug May 2013 #23
Post Number 2 was already in MattBaggins May 2013 #38
For a moment there, I was afraid that I had missed some rapture-type event. Egalitarian Thug May 2013 #50
As a Disney regular, I say this is a stupid article. Nye Bevan May 2013 #5
Sorry---I live in Orlando and have been to Disney well over a hundred times. trumad May 2013 #10
That thing where they stamp your ticket with a return time is what Disney calls a "Fast Pass." n/t Ian David May 2013 #26
Disney does have fast pass Heddi May 2013 #31
Uh, you don't get your ticket stamped for a FastPass Roland99 May 2013 #36
bullshit.. snooper2 May 2013 #20
The only place in Disneyland that a GAC would help is in Fantasyland Roland99 May 2013 #37
My extended family uses Uncle John for this. He's not big on ride parks, but he goes to help. . . Journeyman May 2013 #7
I hope the disabled people triple their rates. Ilsa May 2013 #8
I'm amazed that they hire actual handicapped people Orrex May 2013 #9
How would the 1%-ers hiring the guides know the difference (or care). n/t lumberjack_jeff May 2013 #34
There's never anything quite so tacky as "rich" tacky. nt patrice May 2013 #11
“This is how the 1 percent does Disney.” - I had to check that this wasn't The Onion Matariki May 2013 #12
That jumped out at me too loyalsister May 2013 #32
Criticism from the 99% = Affirmation to the 1%. TheMadMonk May 2013 #41
That is just gross bigwillq May 2013 #13
As if we need more reasons to hate the rich. This is a new low. Initech May 2013 #14
As the parent of a child who gets the disability pass (because of an actual disability) msanthrope May 2013 #15
The majority of Disney patrons are on scooters anyway Capt. Obvious May 2013 #16
Ever notice the 1%'s are like the master of loopholes? Poll_Blind May 2013 #17
Is it rich people exploiting the rules or the disabled person??? cbdo2007 May 2013 #18
Or maybe Dream Tours is just exploiting people with disabilities loyalsister May 2013 #33
They probably pay minimum wage AND get state/federal funds for hiring disabled people. Hassin Bin Sober May 2013 #44
Or less... loyalsister May 2013 #47
Because Disabled People Have Nothing Better To Do otohara May 2013 #45
Being disabled is a full time job-- ABSOLUTELY! loyalsister May 2013 #48
Tell me again how the middle-class and poor are lazy, immoral, worthless scum. Scuba May 2013 #19
Here's a suggestion: screw Disney. Bake May 2013 #21
Where are all the capitalists? They should be defending this with their usual aplomb Egalitarian Thug May 2013 #22
How revolting! smirkymonkey May 2013 #24
This is unbelievable!!! yawnmaster May 2013 #25
Space Mountain, maybe. Small world? Not so much. Carousel of Progress? Never. n/t Ian David May 2013 #27
2.5 hours in line, 5 minute ride, and a stupid earworm that lasts the rest of the day... yawnmaster May 2013 #29
Oh come on. They are not even that evil in comic books. /nt Ash_F May 2013 #28
Well there is a way they can control this and that is make sure the person southernyankeebelle May 2013 #35
There's a name for it.. loyalsister May 2013 #39
It is pretty sad that people are disable are treated like crap. southernyankeebelle May 2013 #42
This is what mercuryblues May 2013 #40
They're going to ruin it for other disabled people... sadbear May 2013 #43
Oh, you're REALLY going to be pissed jmowreader May 2013 #46
Thanks for checking that out loyalsister May 2013 #49
Hope the tour guides take them for a ride $$$$$$ liberal N proud May 2013 #51

cbdo2007

(9,213 posts)
2. If disabled people want to work, this is hardly a bad gig for them.
Tue May 14, 2013, 11:30 AM
May 2013

Better than $6 an hour at McDonalds.

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
4. Making $100+ an hour for going on the rides at Disney does sound like a pretty sweet job.
Tue May 14, 2013, 11:37 AM
May 2013

I'm not exactly sure how Disney could go about stopping this either unless they're planning to make all disabled people wait in the regular line (which they won't).

pnwest

(3,266 posts)
3. i hoped desperately this was an Onion piece...
Tue May 14, 2013, 11:34 AM
May 2013

what a sad, depressing, hope-for-humanity-killing thing to read to start my day. They really do believe in their heart of hearts that the rules, ANY rules, don't apply to them. We're all just so fucked.

HughBeaumont

(24,461 posts)
6. It's not really so much a "belief", it's reality. Rules that apply to us DON'T apply to them.
Tue May 14, 2013, 11:40 AM
May 2013

Read the books Perfectly Legal & Free Lunch. This is just a TASTE of what they get and get away with, and much of it is legal.

 

Egalitarian Thug

(12,448 posts)
23. When a grand is literally meaningless, you too can do things like this. I'm still waiting for our
Tue May 14, 2013, 07:16 PM
May 2013

defenders of the Wall Street New World Order to show up and tell us all what a good thing this is.

 

Egalitarian Thug

(12,448 posts)
50. For a moment there, I was afraid that I had missed some rapture-type event.
Wed May 15, 2013, 10:55 AM
May 2013

Like, what if they had gone Galt or something?

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
5. As a Disney regular, I say this is a stupid article.
Tue May 14, 2013, 11:39 AM
May 2013

The "Small World" line is never that long. The longest I have seen it is about 30 minutes. And as someone who has used both the regular and wheelchair lines (due to a handicapped member of my party) I can say that the wheelchair line is frequently slower than the regular line, as only a certain number of the boats are equipped for wheelchairs.

By doing your homework, arriving early, and using Fastpass, you can do pretty much all of the rides with very little wait, without paying a penny to any "tour guide".

 

trumad

(41,692 posts)
10. Sorry---I live in Orlando and have been to Disney well over a hundred times.
Tue May 14, 2013, 11:48 AM
May 2013

There is no fast pass at Disney. Oh sure---you can get your ticket stamped at each ride and get a return time to get in the fast lane---but the return time varies and most of the time you can't return to the ride for a couple of hours. AND you can only do one ride at a time. Universal on the other hand let's you buy a fast pass for the day with the only restriction being that you can only use it once for each ride.

Plus---on a very busy day, all rides including its a small world are very busy.

Ian David

(69,059 posts)
26. That thing where they stamp your ticket with a return time is what Disney calls a "Fast Pass." n/t
Tue May 14, 2013, 07:48 PM
May 2013

Heddi

(18,312 posts)
31. Disney does have fast pass
Tue May 14, 2013, 08:00 PM
May 2013

(lived in St Pete and had the Fl resident cheapo off season ticket combo). You can FastPass more than 1 ride at a time (I think it's 3 but definitely more than 1).

FastPass wasn't always a "few hours". Some rides had lines so short you didn't need to fast pass. Others had return times of 30 or 45 minutes. Space Mountain was the longest, and that was an hour and a half. In May. At Disney. In Orlando.

And you can use FastPass more than once each ride at Disney

Roland99

(53,342 posts)
36. Uh, you don't get your ticket stamped for a FastPass
Tue May 14, 2013, 08:40 PM
May 2013

You put your ticket into a FastPass machine and it prints out a FastPass ticket for that ride for later in the day.

Actually, today, they started a pilot program for the new RFID-based FastPass+ (100 resort guests per day will partake)

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
20. bullshit..
Tue May 14, 2013, 12:20 PM
May 2013

I saw it all over Disney land when we were there..

At one point I saw the kids "switch" who got to play handicapped knee and arm braces and all---

They were between 10-14, thought it was cute-



Here are where spy drones would come in handy. Catch people doing the handicapped scam and kick them out of the park for life.

Roland99

(53,342 posts)
37. The only place in Disneyland that a GAC would help is in Fantasyland
Tue May 14, 2013, 08:43 PM
May 2013

Most of the other rides, and pretty much all of California Adventure, have those in wheelchairs or scooters or special needs go thru the entire line until it branches off usually near the end.

Journeyman

(15,038 posts)
7. My extended family uses Uncle John for this. He's not big on ride parks, but he goes to help. . .
Tue May 14, 2013, 11:42 AM
May 2013

He enjoys helping his nieces and nephews to enjoy their day at Disneyland and the like, gets to spend time with everyone and get out and about, and all it costs is an extra ticket and his lunch.

If people with money wanted to rent him for "work" like this (such as it is), he wouldn't turn them down. Where else would he (or the majority of the country) make $130 an hour and get to spend a day having fun.

Ilsa

(61,697 posts)
8. I hope the disabled people triple their rates.
Tue May 14, 2013, 11:45 AM
May 2013

God knows, life is hard enough on physically and mentally disabled people. I hope they make a small fortune having fun at Disney.

Orrex

(63,220 posts)
9. I'm amazed that they hire actual handicapped people
Tue May 14, 2013, 11:46 AM
May 2013

I'd have thought that they'd hire able-bodied actors to pretend they're disabled.

Matariki

(18,775 posts)
12. “This is how the 1 percent does Disney.” - I had to check that this wasn't The Onion
Tue May 14, 2013, 11:51 AM
May 2013

Doesn't this dingbat know that the term "the 1 percent" is meant as a criticism? Who the hell talks like that?

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
32. That jumped out at me too
Tue May 14, 2013, 08:03 PM
May 2013

“You can’t go to Disney without a tour concierge,’’ she sniffed. “This is how the 1 percent does Disney.”

sniffed... Self pity or a coke problem?

 

TheMadMonk

(6,187 posts)
41. Criticism from the 99% = Affirmation to the 1%.
Tue May 14, 2013, 09:24 PM
May 2013

Not being criticised, is an indicator that there's room for deeper gouging.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
15. As the parent of a child who gets the disability pass (because of an actual disability)
Tue May 14, 2013, 12:00 PM
May 2013

I can only wish that these parents never have to need one.

Poll_Blind

(23,864 posts)
17. Ever notice the 1%'s are like the master of loopholes?
Tue May 14, 2013, 12:02 PM
May 2013

My brain just doesn't work like that. I'm maybe not saying it's good or bad but I just don't think like that.

PB

cbdo2007

(9,213 posts)
18. Is it rich people exploiting the rules or the disabled person???
Tue May 14, 2013, 12:16 PM
May 2013

Sounds like some disabled entrepreneurs came up with a good idea to take advantage of rich people by exploiting Disney's rule that they can have 5 other people ride the rides with them and go through the handicap line.

I'm still not finding a way to get upset about this. Disney makes the rules, the disabled person makes $100 to have fun, and we dont' have to wait in line with the rich person's bratty kid. Sounds like a win/win/win.

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
33. Or maybe Dream Tours is just exploiting people with disabilities
Tue May 14, 2013, 08:05 PM
May 2013

You can bet they take a cut of the $150+ per hour.

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,335 posts)
44. They probably pay minimum wage AND get state/federal funds for hiring disabled people.
Tue May 14, 2013, 11:10 PM
May 2013

THAT'S the way it's done!

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
47. Or less...
Tue May 14, 2013, 11:46 PM
May 2013

Individuals whose earning or productive capacity is impaired by a physical or mental disability, including those related to age or injury may be paid sub-minimum wages pursuant to a certificate issued by the Secretary of Labor. The sub-minimum wages are commensurate with wages paid to workers without disabilities. Employment at less than the minimum wage is authorized to prevent curtailment of opportunities for employment for workers with disabilities.

http://www.dol.gov/elaws/esa/flsa/docs/sec14.asp

 

otohara

(24,135 posts)
45. Because Disabled People Have Nothing Better To Do
Tue May 14, 2013, 11:20 PM
May 2013

The last thing I would do for an extra $100 is schlep around Disneyland with rich folks. Being disabled is a full time job.

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
48. Being disabled is a full time job-- ABSOLUTELY!
Tue May 14, 2013, 11:50 PM
May 2013

For many of us coordinating and planning to create a weeks schedule is exhausting. It's one of the few things that people can appreciate only when they have to do it.

Bake

(21,977 posts)
21. Here's a suggestion: screw Disney.
Tue May 14, 2013, 02:00 PM
May 2013

The Mouse is GREEDY. Just skip it. Go to a beach. Or a museum. Or anywhere else.

Bake

 

Egalitarian Thug

(12,448 posts)
22. Where are all the capitalists? They should be defending this with their usual aplomb
Tue May 14, 2013, 02:11 PM
May 2013

and short-sighted tunnel vision. These people are simply exercising their purchasing power in a free, market based society.

yawnmaster

(2,812 posts)
29. 2.5 hours in line, 5 minute ride, and a stupid earworm that lasts the rest of the day...
Tue May 14, 2013, 07:56 PM
May 2013

no thanks!
The 1% can have that ride!!!

 

southernyankeebelle

(11,304 posts)
35. Well there is a way they can control this and that is make sure the person
Tue May 14, 2013, 08:31 PM
May 2013

has identification to show he is related to these 1%. I have mixed feelings on this. One hand the handicapped person can make some real good money. But yet it isn't fair to others they cut the line. I have never been to any of the Disney places. My family enjoy going to Kings Dominion in VA. Not far from DC. It's also alittle cheaper am sure. My grandkids love going there.

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
39. There's a name for it..
Tue May 14, 2013, 08:44 PM
May 2013

Tolerant utilization
People with disabilities are still marginalized, but allowed to participate to the extent that they have the ability to fulfill certain roles and duties designated by the nondisabled majority as necessary.

sadbear

(4,340 posts)
43. They're going to ruin it for other disabled people...
Tue May 14, 2013, 10:56 PM
May 2013

if Disney decided that it's not worth the bad PR. Soon, the disabled may keep their entrances, but they'll have to wait just like everyone else.

jmowreader

(50,562 posts)
46. Oh, you're REALLY going to be pissed
Tue May 14, 2013, 11:43 PM
May 2013

I did some research into this...the company Dream Tours Florida is a tour company set up to do special-needs tours of the Disney parks in Florida and Disney Cruise Lines. What the fuss is about is their "VIP Tours," which were as the article states. (My bet is they were giving the special needs person a cut, keeping some for "overhead" (okay, profit) and using the rest to help defray the cost of the special-needs tours, which have got to be really expensive.)

Dream Tours' website has this huffy little note on the "VIP Tours" page that says they're not doing them right now due to slanderous press allegations...which breaks down to "we got busted."

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
49. Thanks for checking that out
Tue May 14, 2013, 11:56 PM
May 2013

If it was a group of people independently giving tours, I don't think it would be so offensive as they would be getting paid an agreed upon amount without a middleman. It seems that this dream tour group operates like a pimp.

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