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BainsBane

(53,056 posts)
Wed May 15, 2013, 10:14 PM May 2013

Boxer: 50k men being treated by the VA for sexual assault

Barbara Boxer and Kristen Gillbrand are sponsoring a bill to remove decisions to proceed with rape charges out of the military chain of command to military judicial officers. http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/05/15/18256635-us-military-faces-historic-tipping-point-on-rape-epidemic?lite

Three bills were introduced in Congress last week, which would variously give victims of military sexual assault their own military lawyers, require an inspector general investigation of retaliation claims and strip commanders of the authority to dismiss court-martial convictions in major cases, among other changes.
http://www.stripes.com/news/congress-looks-to-force-change-in-military-on-sexual-assault-1.220879


Rapists know they can get away with sexual assault in the military. Boxer, on the Rachel Maddow show, said felons are walking around with nothing happening to them. Then she finished by saying the VA has reported it is currently treated 50,000 MEN for sexual assault. Women in the military face twice the rate of sexual assault that they do in civilian life, with as many of 1/3 being raped at some point in their service.

This is a serious problem that affects both women and men in our armed forces. We all need to support the proposed legislation. Those who serve in our armed forces deserve better.
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Boxer: 50k men being treated by the VA for sexual assault (Original Post) BainsBane May 2013 OP
Sick, sick, sick. Brickbat May 2013 #1
50,000 out of 1.4 million?!? Dawson Leery May 2013 #2
What is your point? BainsBane May 2013 #3
That is a large percentage. Dawson Leery May 2013 #6
I apologize then BainsBane May 2013 #7
imagine if all assaults were included BainsBane May 2013 #10
'Treated by VA' indicates they are veterans, not part of the number currently serving pinboy3niner May 2013 #15
Gillibrand, McCaskill, Ayote grill military brass over arrest of sexual assault officer (3 videos) Tx4obama May 2013 #4
Thanks for the link BainsBane May 2013 #5
The people in the service deserve while in uniform, out of uniform, and so do the civilians that freshwest May 2013 #8
I agree 100% BainsBane May 2013 #9
"In the military, you report it to your commanding officer..." NaturalHigh May 2013 #12
but that's what this legislation seeks to address BainsBane May 2013 #18
The volunteer arny isn't working out too well, imo. And, these's a leadership vacuum among byeya May 2013 #11
Good grief. HappyMe May 2013 #13
awesome! BainsBane May 2013 #14
One of the unfortunate things about this is FreeState May 2013 #16
True BainsBane May 2013 #17
I think its more likely men wont report sexual assault as well FreeState May 2013 #19

BainsBane

(53,056 posts)
3. What is your point?
Wed May 15, 2013, 10:19 PM
May 2013

It's not important? Those rapists should not be prosecuted? Only a tiny fraction of rape victims report or even admit they were assaulted.

BainsBane

(53,056 posts)
7. I apologize then
Wed May 15, 2013, 10:59 PM
May 2013

I thought you were saying it was small. Is that number you cited the total armed forces or those being treated by the VA?

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
15. 'Treated by VA' indicates they are veterans, not part of the number currently serving
Thu May 16, 2013, 02:18 PM
May 2013

This population includes veterans of all eras.

Still, even out of that larger population, that is a STAGGERING number!

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
8. The people in the service deserve while in uniform, out of uniform, and so do the civilians that
Thu May 16, 2013, 01:20 AM
May 2013

they come into contact with here and abroad. The world must change regarding assaults of all persons, men, women, children.

BainsBane

(53,056 posts)
9. I agree 100%
Thu May 16, 2013, 01:22 AM
May 2013

However there is an extra hurdle in the military. In civilian life, one reports a crime to police. In the military, you report it to your commanding officer, who is sometimes the rapist. He makes the decision whether charges should be pursued.

NaturalHigh

(12,778 posts)
12. "In the military, you report it to your commanding officer..."
Thu May 16, 2013, 01:19 PM
May 2013

Not necessarily. It can be reported directly to the military police. I don't know if that works out any better or not. It's been about 17 years since I got out.

BainsBane

(53,056 posts)
18. but that's what this legislation seeks to address
Thu May 16, 2013, 02:47 PM
May 2013

I have no personal experience in the matter, but there is legislation seeking to remove decisions from the chain of the command.

 

byeya

(2,842 posts)
11. The volunteer arny isn't working out too well, imo. And, these's a leadership vacuum among
Thu May 16, 2013, 01:08 PM
May 2013

the officer corps, that over privileged sump of waste.

HappyMe

(20,277 posts)
13. Good grief.
Thu May 16, 2013, 01:40 PM
May 2013

Just fucking awful and shameful. I can't imagine how high it would be if all assaults were reported by male and female victims.

I will contact the congress critter.

FreeState

(10,577 posts)
16. One of the unfortunate things about this is
Thu May 16, 2013, 02:28 PM
May 2013

that Boxer and other politicians are having to point out that men are indeed victims of sexual assault in order to get people to pay attention and hopefully do something. Boxer could have used the statistics of women, which is a much much higher percentage, but in our sexist society it may not have had enough influence to get peoples attention.

BainsBane

(53,056 posts)
17. True
Thu May 16, 2013, 02:38 PM
May 2013

And frankly that's why I wrote the title as I did. I'm well aware of the way that women are devalued and how many dismiss sexual assault for that reason. However, in the survey recently released of unreported assaults, men actually comprised about 53% of victims. That has to do with the fact there are so many more men than women in the military. A military woman's chances of being assaulted, however, are exponentially higher than a man's. A much higher percentage of women are assaulted than men, even those the raw numbers of assaults of males is slightly higher.

FreeState

(10,577 posts)
19. I think its more likely men wont report sexual assault as well
Thu May 16, 2013, 02:53 PM
May 2013

I dont have the statistics on hand, but when I worked for a domestic violence center there was a large amount of men who never reported being assaulted because of the cultural taboo of men admitting abuse. I hope thats changes a lot (its been a while).

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