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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsOh shite Martin Bashir went there
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with Issa's car theft, the firearm and the fire following the increase in insurance.
Oh My this is getting delish!!!
Go Martin!
Go Ari!!
http://video.msnbc.msn.com/martin-bashir/51909398#51909398
randome
(34,845 posts)[hr]
[font color="blue"][center]Stop looking for heroes. BE one.[/center][/font]
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Cha
(297,574 posts)Stardust
(3,894 posts)spanone
(135,862 posts)hate that fucker.
malaise
(269,157 posts)The ReTHUG inversion of reality continues with tasteless haste.
spanone
(135,862 posts)maddiemom
(5,106 posts)attention since Senator McCarthy (was HIS background as shady as Issa's?)
calimary
(81,441 posts)But if ANYBODY deserves to have his own underwear drawer and bellybutton lint closely inspected by government investigators and prosecutors, it's him.
Cha
(297,574 posts)malaise
(269,157 posts)spanone
(135,862 posts)it was a thing of beauty....
Cha
(297,574 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)I never tire of this:
Jump ahead to 1:20, the sniffling and snuffling sum that thieving crybaby up completely.
I'm no fan of Ahhhnuld, but I'm glad he ate Issa's million dollar lunch!
PatSeg
(47,573 posts)Pathetic.
MADem
(135,425 posts)could run for governor--the stupid shit (and this goes to his complete lack of judgment) thought that, since he paid for the party, that everyone in politics would step back and say, "Oh, apres vous, Governor Issa!"
Instead, Ahhnuld comes in and (as the tape is titled) "bigfoots" his ass. Ahhnuld, who could afford to spend a million here and a million there, is nonetheless sufficiently astute that he let the car thief spend HIS money...and then he hopped in and took the prize!
Like I said, I don't care much for Ahhnuld at all, but every person, in every life, likely does One Good Thing. I think that causing Darrell the Arsonist to cry like a child, thereby giving so many people in the world a moment of utter hilarity, was Ahhnuld's One Good Thing!
PatSeg
(47,573 posts)but I applaud him for that one.
I was new to California when all this was taking place, so I wasn't familiar with all the players. I didn't even know who Issa was at the time. There is a certain similarity between the two though. I think they both sought public office to give themselves a certain aura of respectability. For Arnold, evidently marrying a Kennedy just wasn't quite enough. Issa came from humble beginnings, was a high school drop out, and a small time crook, so I imagine he spent a good chunk of his life running from his past. He kind of reminds me of Don Draper in Mad Men, only more ruthless and less attractive.
I wonder if Issa thought that the governorship was a stepping stone to the White House. He certainly has an ego big enough for it.
MADem
(135,425 posts)footsteps, probably (another guy from humble origins).
In the Arab world and parts of southwest Asia, "Issa" or "Isa" is the word for "Jesus" (rather like "Allah" is the word for "God" but some folks think that "those heathens" are talking about a different guy).
PatSeg
(47,573 posts)and the "Daddy Issues" guys (Bush and Romney), it is really scary when they achieve any kind of power. Even scarier if their name is synonymous with Jesus. If there were such a persons as the Antichrist, I think he'd look like Issa.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)malaise
(269,157 posts)whathehell
(29,090 posts)SemperEadem
(8,053 posts)October
(3,363 posts)I remember when he appeared on Bill Maher's show -- disguising himself has moderate or normal. <gag>
Remember how he cried when he couldn't be governor of California?
babylonsister
(171,079 posts)malaise
(269,157 posts)<snip>
...I wanted to know about the troubles in his past: the gun conviction, the three allegations of car theft, the arson allegation, the allegation that he dismissed an employee while brandishing a gun, and the mysteries about his finances. These are matters he avoids discussing at length with the press, and, as we got into the details, he joked that it might be less painful if I would just twiddle the toes.
Issa seemed tired of defending himself from these old stories...
...A few days after we met in Las Vegas, Issa called me. He was concerned about all my questions regarding his early life and didnt see why they were newsworthy. The conversation was awkward. I told him that there was one more question I wanted him to answer: Where did you get the money for your start in business? The issue had stumped the insurance investigators, and William had, somewhat mysteriously, told me that his brother would lend people money and get money back that way when he was in the service. He would buy and sell cars sometimes. He would get cars at a very good price, keep them, and sell them.
There was a pause on the phone. Thats sort of an amazing one to ask, Issa said. He took a deep breath, and then carefully and patiently explained that, before he started at Quantum, he sold a BMW motorcycle and two carshis Mercedes and his wifes 1967 Volkswagen Bug. We liquidated everything we could to raise money, he said. He added that he also borrowed fifty thousand dollars from family members to make the first loan to Adkins. Issa seemed frustrated and exhausted. Everyone, he said, has a past.
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http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2011/01/24/110124fa_fact_lizza?currentPage=1
siligut
(12,272 posts)Yes, Issa, rat-out all your GOP buddies too But this is no doubt true where he comes from, politics is just organized crime with an education.
malaise
(269,157 posts)like Issa and his goons.
siligut
(12,272 posts)And saying that everyone has one. Essentially he is saying that in his world of GOP sell-outs, everyone has a criminal past. These guys go into politics to get rich.
malaise
(269,157 posts)100% correct
maddezmom
(135,060 posts)I was outside but just backed up my dvr to see it. The Issa Man Commeth!
malaise
(269,157 posts)sheshe2
(83,875 posts)Go Martin!
malaise
(269,157 posts)when he's Chairing anything connected to law and order.
ReTHUGs have set out to destroy the institutions of government. All I see is a non-stop attempted coup to destroy the legitimacy of the Obama administration
And Thanks, malaise, for your post and link up thread.
maddiemom
(5,106 posts)okaawhatever
(9,462 posts)than politics we can't let the gop hang all the blame around issa's neck. We can't let them separate the republican party from Issa when it comes time to take blame.
burnodo
(2,017 posts)But Issa is his own special brand of pudknocker.
skydive forever
(445 posts)malaise
(269,157 posts)kimsterdemster
(296 posts)Martin, he should be on prime time, Chris is sooooo boring
xxqqqzme
(14,887 posts)out here on the left coast @ 1PM. A very crappy time. Instead of repeating tweety 3 or 4 times, give one of the repeats in the late afternoon to Bashir. Left coasties will like that!
xtraxritical
(3,576 posts)ZRT2209
(1,357 posts)dreamnightwind
(4,775 posts)from http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2011/01/24/110124fa_fact_lizza?currentPage=6
Fixing Wikipedia is a full-time thing when youve got people hacking it, or editing it, in a rather slanted way.
This guy is total scum, a small-time crook and criminal who now heads perhaps the most important government oversight committee. Unbelievable. My guess is they don't get him removed because, with all of his history, he can probably be contained any time they need to.
Hopefully people will keep his Wikipedia page honest, I'd hate to see him succeed in cleansing his record.
malaise
(269,157 posts)It was posted here back then
dreamnightwind
(4,775 posts)But I was glad to read it.
I've never been a Ryan Lizza fan at all, and felt that he went strangely out of his way on several occasions to present a possible legitimate explanation for some of Issa's claims (such as the blue flame/gas pipe claim to help explain Issa's company going up in flames).
Still, the article covered a lot of ground and Lizza was willing to ask Issa himself about these issues, face to face, which is real journalism rarely seen these days.
Voice for Peace
(13,141 posts)dreamnightwind
(4,775 posts)The quote I had used in the previous post was for Page 6, which is why I linked to there. Maybe it isn't Page 6 for everyone, does it depend on how many lines fit on a screen? If so, here's the link to the whole thing as a single page, people can find it in there:
http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2011/01/24/110124fa_fact_lizza?currentPage=all
Voice for Peace
(13,141 posts)needs to be updated with more information about his criminal past...
dreamnightwind
(4,775 posts)I've never edited a wikipedia page, no expert on Issa's life anyway, but I'd bet there are people here who could provide more balance in his write-up, would love to see it.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)malaise
(269,157 posts)Issa should be in prison
freshwest
(53,661 posts)laserhaas
(7,805 posts)THX for this
malaise
(269,157 posts)flamingdem
(39,319 posts)PatSeg
(47,573 posts)This guy has so many skeletons in his closet, yet he has the hubris to go after other people.
Bluzmann57
(12,336 posts)It's obvious that issa doesn't like or respect Holder so that leads one to believe that issa is a criminal. Issa doesn't have to like him I guess, but at the least, Holder should get respect. He isn't getting any from issa.
Glad Martin Bashir brought these things up about issa's past. The noose is tightening.
malaise
(269,157 posts)ReTHUGs have no respect for official offices or institutions
warrprayer
(4,734 posts)Funny how short the medias memory is sometimes! I like Martin a lot!
malaise
(269,157 posts)Great program today
warrprayer
(4,734 posts)well prepared with the facts, and doesn't back down to the thugs. Add he's fun to watch and it's a winning package!
malaise
(269,157 posts)It was too funny. Someone should tell Ron Christie that he's pathetic
Blue_Roses
(12,894 posts)Call the sleazy bastard out.
Sekhmets Daughter
(7,515 posts)Need we know more?
malaise
(269,157 posts)Government is there for the looting
IrishAyes
(6,151 posts)Love you both.
ctsnowman
(1,903 posts)whathehell
(29,090 posts)Warpy
(111,332 posts)and putting on a nice suit and conning a bunch of dumb conservatives into electing him didn't change that.