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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsUntil this country is ready to acknowledge the damage being on a permanent war footing does
we're not going to change things.
DU is a reflection, in this way at least, of the larger society as a whole. We tend to ignore this issue. If I posted that today in Iraq dozens were killed by car bombs and that hundreds have been killed by bombings in the last week, it would sink like a stone. We like to think of Iraq as a success, but that's not true. It was an insanely expensive war that accomplished nothing for the U.S., except to enrich corporations.
If I were to post that that in Afghanistan, over a dozen U.S. troops have been killed in the month of May, that would be met with indifference. Afghanistan has been a huge expensive failure.
We target people with drones virtually everyday. All that does is enrage people around the world, and yep you guessed it, benefit the military industrial complex.
We maintain hundreds of bases around the world while we have the most expensive least effective health care system in the developed world.
We have an astounding 16 national security agencies with enormous bloated budgets. We can't really know how enormous. The intelligence budget is a secret. Meanwhile we cut food stamps and home heating funding.
Unless we include these facts in any national discussion about domestic policy, we're holding a pointless discussion.
marmar
(77,080 posts)Bannakaffalatta
(94 posts)Think of all the physically and psychologically scarred veterans.
The irreparable harm already done and still being done to the constitution, to civil liberties and judicial procedure.
The environmental degradation cause by the manufacture, transport, deployment and disposal of ordnance.
The entrenched hatred and bitterness that will take decades to ease.
And my deepest concern: the crazy-making contradiction between what America is supposed to be and what it actually does, inflicted on two generations of young people. I'm not sure they'll recover.
cali
(114,904 posts)Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)Sad to see that enthusiasm for peace wane so rapidly.
What a difference a letter makes.
cali
(114,904 posts)I guess I shouldn't be but I am surprised by the difference that letter makes in the minds of so many
Initech
(100,076 posts)Obscene profit gains for the defense contractors that make up the military industrial complex. Bill Maher had a great new rule a couple weeks ago about how we as a country are addicted to war and until we change that we're not going to change anything else.
cali
(114,904 posts)but it's just not something that people want to recognize. And if that's true here, it's even more true in the broader society.
it's not gonna happen of course.
It won't happen in Congress.
It won't happen in the media.
It won't even happen here.
We are fucked until it happens.
Bonobo
(29,257 posts)The last 5 years taught me a level of cynicism and, frankly, woke me to the fact that all was not the evil work of a rogue little chimp named Bush.
I wanted to believe that what the US was under Bush was not the true US. But a pitcher of water was thrown in my face when we all pulled together and did the incredible by electing Obama. It seemed like such a victory, such a slap back at Bush. As if we were repudiating all that he had done.
And then... I woke up.
Sometimes I wonder if the problem isn't so deeply rooted in institutions that who has become essentially irrelevant.
HiPointDem
(20,729 posts)randome
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HiPointDem
(20,729 posts)funny you posting this after savaging me because i dared criticize angelina jolie, when she's an agent of our disasterous foreign policy.
cali
(114,904 posts)I spell it out. That you are so wrapped up in your wee self that you think it's of any import that you and a few other people on DU acknowledge it, is irrelevant, except to make clear a certain narcissism.
And your bizarre focus on Angelina Jolie is, uh, disturbing and creepy as hell- to say the least.
Ugh.
go away.
HiPointDem
(20,729 posts)maybe in another 10 years you might actually understand my point about the jolie-pitts, just as it took you years to comprehend the point you post as if it were revelatory here.