'cause I'm thinking I missed something.

See, the weather, the storm comes in and the storm goes out, Ms. CatWoman. It always comes in, and always goes out. You can't explain that...

It's hard!

Climate change, which Inhofe denies, spawning tornadoes that can do this.

the picture and the caption seemed so random at first. Verily, it was odd.

Don't think it has anything to do with Sen. Inhofe, but it is a cool pic

comment because I'm mesmerized.

How much force does it take to make wood (that's what it looks like) pierce concrete?

a simple strike from a hammer.

and it was so fierce drove straw needles into a fence.

...by a tornado. You can't drive a nail into an old hedgepost--but a tornado was able to do that. I've also seen wood 2x4s turned into pretzels wrapped around trees. Not broken--wrapped--as if it was string.

curb/gutter are frequently poured concrete. The texture and color looks all wrong for asphalt.

Sharp projectiles can and often will penetrate weak structures and can injure of kill any living being that they strike inside the structure.

"BTW, Why are we asking Inhofe to explain in the 1st place? "

...he and his spawn are morons?

Inhofe’s Grandchildren Build Igloo To Mock Killer Snow Storm: ‘Al Gore’s New Home’
http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2010/02/09/81411/inhofe-family-gore-mockery/

I want to think the best of everyone ... but in this context. it gives the impression that you are trying to insinuate that global climate change isn't occurring ....? I hope I have misunderstood the intent of your post. I would hate to think you were a science "denier" ("science denier" implies extreme ignorance)

I really don't care how Inhofe "explains" anything. I don't consider him to be an authority on anything.

I'm merely pointing out that humans have long been aware of the incredible power of nature's storms and since the advent of film and video have been documenting it.

I would hate to think you were a History "denier" because "History denier" implies extreme ignorance.

Your post is similar to those that deny climate change ... ie posting an example of some historical storm as some sort of evidence that there is no climate change.

Your post was alerted on and I served on the jury for it. I wanted to ask you to explain what the intent of your post was.

Historically, climate change deniers have used examples such as yours in feeble attempts to "prove" their point (on DU) and elsewhere.

Inafoe is an example of a "science denier" in high places. He has directed those of his ilk to historical storms, and they smugly accept this as proof of the absence of global climate change

That post was alerted on? What am I missing here? Perhaps the post strayed from the OP's reference to the Oklahoma moron's climate denying nonsense (which admittedly was the primary theme of the OP), but posting a pic of a piece of wood driven through a tire by a tornado in response to an OP with a pic of a piece of wood driven through a curb by a tornado just doesn't strike me as violating community standards. Especially someone new to the community. Especially when the poster specifically asked what the Inhof reference related to. I really see nothing more than a newbie's cautious attempt to participate in the discussion.

Odd to say the least. Can you offer more context to the alert and what the "alerter" was focused on?

don't know if we are supposed to post alerts (shades of Meta)... had this poster intended it as proof that climate change doesn't exist I would agree with the "troll" statement. I read it somewhat the way the alerter did


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ALERTER'S COMMENTS:

Troll

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Wed May 22, 2013, 09:03 PM, and the Jury voted 2-4 to LEAVE IT.

Maybe a troll, but I think the evidence was pretty circumstantial, and I appreciate your effort to get to the bottom of it.

Moreover, even if he is a closeted climate change denier, my approach to jury duty has always been one firmly embracing a policy of free speech. I don't approve of personal attacks and outright rudeness, but I've never had a problem with someone disagreeing with me on any issue. I might find their position to be silly and not grounded in reality (and denying climate change is actually willful ignorance at this point), but seldom worthy of punitive measures unless its clearly over the top.

I don't even think they are a climate change denier (following their response). I would not have alerted, but I did read the post the same way the alerter did. I am not fond of those that deny science and refuse to accept it as an alternate view (understanding you see it as willful ignorance) and I will vote to hide .... BUT, I don't think that was what the poster was doing either (though, I did interpret it that way, I was mistaken)

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Obviously.

He is asking everyone to take cuts to programs. But who specifically? What programs? I have been wondering. He seems to be playing politics with the welfare of the citizens of his state who are suffering and probably grateful for any help they can get. Why would he put such nasty conditions on accepting aid?

He doesn't sound too smart if you ask me. Just meanspirited.

Inhofe just wants us to understand that his vote against helping people on the East coast is different from wanting help for his state.

Republicans don't think they should fix it yet they are the government.

flying at 250mph impacting a concrete curb.

.. in Vaughn I think or somewhere south of Dallas or maybe in the Panhandle,
where a tornado drove a toothpick into a telephone pole.

There was also a story of a tornado which destroyed a farmer's house, killed him and everyone in it, but left a paper check on the dresser.

Tornadoes .. are .. weird.

took up the "piece of straw embedded in a telephone pole" myth and BUSTED it. They said it's physically impossible

Who claim to have witnessed such things first hand. They seem very credible.

I often get the impression from Myth Busters that they want a busted "myth" more than the truth.

It's clear that The Almighty has sent the tornado to punish the people from Oklahoma for electing a couple of climate change deniers to Washington. Obviously, He's not pleased we're destroying His Creation with our reckless and incessant carbon belching.

Hey, my theory makes more sense than any similar spew that comes from Pat Robertson's gob.

I think he's funny that with this particular disaster, he's all about it being totally random, not 'caused' by God or anything like that. But of course, had the very same tornado swept through, say, San Francisco ... we ALLLLLLL know he'd have said it was obviously an Act of God, vengeance for the people there accepting Teh Gay.