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The Straight Story

(48,121 posts)
Wed May 22, 2013, 09:05 PM May 2013

NYPD Accused of Enticing Bogus Crime - "Operation Lucky Bag,"

NYPD Accused of Enticing Bogus Crime

BROOKLYN (CN) - Fresh off a trial for racial profiling, the NYPD faces another class action accusing it of giving people "an unfair enticement to commit crime" by leaving valuables in public places and arresting people who pick them up.

Lead plaintiff Spiridon Argyros sued New York City, Police Officer Daniel Fody, and other unidentified members of the NYPD, in Federal Court.

He claims the NYPD, through its "Operation Lucky Bag," treats good Samaritans as criminals, giving people "an unfair enticement to commit crime," arresting them without proof they had any intent to steal.

"This is a civil rights class action that challenges the constitutionality of a widespread and ongoing New York City Police Department ('NYPD') operation known as 'Operation Lucky Bag,' which entraps its victims, presumes their guilt and results in their unlawful arrest and detention," the complaint states.

"Operation Lucky Bag is a policy and practice of the NYPD in which police officers intentionally place a bag that contains a valuable item such as a wallet or laptop in a public place, and lay in wait, often out of sight, until someone picks up the bag and/or removes or attempts to remove the valuable. The police then arrest the person, presuming s/he intends to retain the valuable, rather than to return the property to the rightful owner or turn it in to the proper authority. Though the policy and practice is purportedly intended to catch thieves and deter crime, it is overbroad and treats honest individuals acting as good Samaritans as criminals."

http://www.courthousenews.com/2013/05/22/57866.htm

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Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
1. When I find a wallet, I take it, then when I have time look in it to ID the owner
Wed May 22, 2013, 09:10 PM
May 2013

so I can return it to them directly. I don't "hand it in" to anyone because I don't trust anyone else not to steal the wallet themselves or swipe the cash.

I never realized I was risking arrest.

 

DCKit

(18,541 posts)
2. You probably wouldn't be... anywhere else. nt
Wed May 22, 2013, 09:36 PM
May 2013

Private prison corps must be kicking back a shitload of money to the NYPD.

X_Digger

(18,585 posts)
7. One word.. CompStat.
Wed May 22, 2013, 10:44 PM
May 2013

NYPD has a long history of cooking up crimes to boost their numbers (see 'stop and frisk') as well as filing serious crimes as lesser offenses (see the Village Voice's piece on the 'Schoolcraft tapes').

Why? Because of CompStat- from line officers on up, bonuses, promotions, and pay is tied to how well the numbers look.

LiberalElite

(14,691 posts)
3. I found a wallet once
Wed May 22, 2013, 10:30 PM
May 2013

I gave it in at the local precinct. I always wondered if it got back to its owner.

 

loli phabay

(5,580 posts)
4. not sure how they are doing it, but normally you have the supposed owner
Wed May 22, 2013, 10:38 PM
May 2013

Amble up put, sit for a couple of minutes mayby talk loudly on the phone and then leave the bag and go into the seven eleven etc. Then if someone takes it and goes in the other direction it pretty much obvious they are not going to return it to the owner. Its not like you place it an leave it for hours, its a very specific setup with the owner being obvious.

 

loli phabay

(5,580 posts)
6. well it pretty much negates the good samaritan problem if its done correctly
Wed May 22, 2013, 10:43 PM
May 2013

Ive seen it used mainly to catch bicycle thieves.

dsc

(52,163 posts)
9. It is AOK when it catches people committing real crimes
Wed May 22, 2013, 11:12 PM
May 2013

which that scenario would be. You don't have the right to pick up a wallet you know is person A's and then not return it to person A.

 

DCKit

(18,541 posts)
14. "Real" criminals often have real guns.
Thu May 23, 2013, 02:42 AM
May 2013

On edit:

Know any pot smokers who sit around stroking their guns? Me neither.

It would explain a lot about the incarceration rate for a victimless crime - easy money, almost zero risk.

 

datasuspect

(26,591 posts)
15. vlad tepes (the protector of Wallachia) used to do the exact same thing
Thu May 23, 2013, 02:44 AM
May 2013

except he would impale the people who picked up the valuables.

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