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Tommy_Carcetti

(43,182 posts)
Thu May 23, 2013, 11:08 AM May 2013

So does anyone besides the Tea Party and political junkies actually care about the IRS "scandal"?

I just have the feeling for most Americans, the whole thing is going over with a collective yawn. As it should, because there's simply no there there.

Americans didn't care to be bothered about the Clinton/Lewinsky "scandal" either, although at least they were entertained about it.

This one is even more pathetic, because I think most Americans can't muster up much sympathy at all for the self-proclaimed "victims" here, that being a Tea Party.

I'd love just to see this whole non-story die a forgotten death.

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So does anyone besides the Tea Party and political junkies actually care about the IRS "scandal"? (Original Post) Tommy_Carcetti May 2013 OP
I miss Benghazi already tularetom May 2013 #1
I think it's 'a pox on both your houses.' Graybeard May 2013 #2
I agree. Glorfindel May 2013 #3
Hell, Sir: I Am A 'Political Junkie' And I Do Not Give The North End Of A Southbound Rat The Magistrate May 2013 #4
The republicans threw too many scandals in the wind at once liberal N proud May 2013 #5
there's a huge scandal in this _ kkkarl rove was granted 501c4 status NO tea party was denied leftyohiolib May 2013 #6
I don't believe that they even care about these scandals. It is just fundraising gist FSogol May 2013 #7
The Tea Party has long been dying. Tommy_Carcetti May 2013 #8
I personally think your assumption is wrong YarnAddict May 2013 #9
Wishful thinking. Savannahmann May 2013 #10
Everyone already hates the IRS Johonny May 2013 #11

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
1. I miss Benghazi already
Thu May 23, 2013, 11:11 AM
May 2013

It was a hell of a lot more interesting than this IRS stuff even if it was just as much as a crock of shit.

Graybeard

(6,996 posts)
2. I think it's 'a pox on both your houses.'
Thu May 23, 2013, 11:13 AM
May 2013

When Repukes had the opportunity they did the same thing. Most people hate the IRS to begin with and are convinced that all of their posturing now is hypocrisy.

Glorfindel

(9,730 posts)
3. I agree.
Thu May 23, 2013, 11:13 AM
May 2013

You said it just right. The Tea Partiers are bullies, not victims. Anyone who asks to be exempt from taxes should expect to be scrutinized.

The Magistrate

(95,247 posts)
4. Hell, Sir: I Am A 'Political Junkie' And I Do Not Give The North End Of A Southbound Rat
Thu May 23, 2013, 11:13 AM
May 2013

Nobody likes the tea-bagger troupe, and nobody cares if they were mussed a touch....

liberal N proud

(60,336 posts)
5. The republicans threw too many scandals in the wind at once
Thu May 23, 2013, 11:14 AM
May 2013

Not even the talking heads could keep up with the propaganda they were supposed to indoctrinate the people with.

I think most people are disgusted with Congress more than the IRS over this because of their obstructionist ways.

 

leftyohiolib

(5,917 posts)
6. there's a huge scandal in this _ kkkarl rove was granted 501c4 status NO tea party was denied
Thu May 23, 2013, 11:15 AM
May 2013

that's the scandal ,besides that ,the law that describes the use of these say these groups are to be exclusively social welfare and the irs legislated all on it's own that exclusively means primarily, that is one huge fucking scandal

FSogol

(45,488 posts)
7. I don't believe that they even care about these scandals. It is just fundraising gist
Thu May 23, 2013, 11:20 AM
May 2013

to fleece their rube followers. 2014 is approaching and they are filling their coffers with coins from the gullible.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,182 posts)
8. The Tea Party has long been dying.
Thu May 23, 2013, 11:23 AM
May 2013

Note, for example, how both Joe Walsh and Allen West went down to defeat in 2012.

The outrage over the "scandal" is nothing more than an attempt to defibrillate the Tea Party in time for 2014.

 

YarnAddict

(1,850 posts)
9. I personally think your assumption is wrong
Thu May 23, 2013, 01:15 PM
May 2013

because the vast majority passionately hate the IRS, and the idea of any government agency, but especially the IRS, going after people based solely on their political beliefs is chilling.

 

Savannahmann

(3,891 posts)
10. Wishful thinking.
Thu May 23, 2013, 01:44 PM
May 2013
I'd love just to see this whole non-story die a forgotten death.


With this scandal, the IRS has lost it's main defense. The defense was simple, yes they're assholes who ruin people's lives who fail to pay taxes, but they're assholes who target people just based upon facts and do a job that has to be done. This scandal destroys that image and that defense. People care. That's why even some Democrats are saying that a Special Prosecutor is needed.

This scandal is bad, but it's going to get worse. When I've talked to people, most recently at a restaurant frequented by the dock workers, who are all Union, I've found something that folks are finding hard to believe. The idea that nobody knew what was going on, and those who did know, didn't report it to their superiors. People get fired for not reporting things to their bosses. People get fired all the time for not reporting things to their bosses. Lois Lerner got promoted for not reporting to her bosses, and nobody believes that.

So this scandal isn't going away, Benghazi is one that only political junkies can grasp. But this and the AP news reporters people can get, and they don't like it. What we should have done is announced it, and then fired everyone involved publicly. Now, we're left saying that nothing is happening, and the harder the people look, the more folks are going to take the fifth, which is absolutely their right, but it shows the average person out there that there really is something going on under the surface.

Politically speaking it almost certainly won't lead to President Obama's resignation/impeachment. But it does set the Rethugs up to take more seats in the Senate, and even picking up more seats in the House. It kills any chance of a Democratic Legislative Initiative making it through Congress. It puts us on the Legislative Defensive, especially if the Republicans can parlay this into six seats in the Senate, which is highly improbable, but hardly impossible. A full court press on this scandal puts a lot of things at risk, a weaker Democratic Senate is almost guaranteed. A stronger Republican House is equally probable.

We need a smart way out of this, and we don't have one. So expect it to keep up in the front parts of the Newspapers, and the special reports to continue at least once a week.
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