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redqueen

(115,103 posts)
Thu May 23, 2013, 12:34 PM May 2013

Facebook's violently sexist pages are an opportunity for feminists

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Then there's Facebook. Facebook is a special case. On the one hand, it's a profit-driven corporation, but on the other, it's a corporation that makes its profits through provision of a platform for people's interests, beliefs and social habits. And when it stops being that platform, it stops making money. Sadly, we live in a society in which many people are interested in rape jokes, believe violence against women is funny and habitually consume cultural products that depict women as glossy sex things. And so, Facebook is full of pages and groups that graphically depict and explicitly condone violence against women.

As Tuesday's open letter to Facebook on behalf of more than 65 gender equality groups points out, Facebook routinely removes content that is violently racist, homophobic or Islamophobic. The company – quite rightly – would ban a group that showed two gay people lying unconscious at the bottom of the stairs with a caption like, "Next time, don't hold hands". While it'll approve content that condones tying women up and raping them, it certainly wouldn't tolerate an equally "humorous" page that riffed on the lynching of black people.

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The question that arises is why Facebook continues to allow this kind of content to be published. It emits unconvincing chirps about being anti-censorship, but trips itself up by moderating, as pornographic, images of women breastfeeding, or body-positive pictures of post-mastectomy female torsos. This blogpost cuts wittily to the heart of the issue. The author lifts a typical porny pic from another Facebook page, Photoshops in a smattering of pubic hair, and posts it to her own group. Result? Overnight decision – a 30-day ban.

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The #FBrape campaign holds a mirror up to a pervasive element of our culture that many either fail to acknowledge or aggressively insist that feminists laugh off. Officially, violent misogyny is not condoned, and most corporations won't endanger their brands by being associated with it. Unofficially, violent misogyny is still very much de rigueur. Facebook is a conduit between these official and unofficial attitudes to women and, as such, provides an opportunity for radical intervention. Paradoxically, as a profit-driven organisation that must reflect the values of our sexist society, Facebook offers gender activists a vital chance to confront, contest and change permissive attitudes to violence against women.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/may/23/facebook-violently-sexist-pages-twitter-fbrape?CMP=twt_gu


She is spot on. The solution isn't running away, ignoring the problem, waving a white flag, etc. It's holding that mirror up.
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Facebook's violently sexist pages are an opportunity for feminists (Original Post) redqueen May 2013 OP
Do you have, erm, geek tragedy May 2013 #1
Not sure what you mean... redqueen May 2013 #2
I meant the latter--people organizing on FB to make them change. geek tragedy May 2013 #3
This one ismnotwasm May 2013 #5
I don't have FB ismnotwasm May 2013 #4
That's the spirit! redqueen May 2013 #7
This campaign can be 'liked' on Facebook ismnotwasm May 2013 #6
K&R MadrasT May 2013 #8
Thanks! nt redqueen May 2013 #9
Kick. Luminous Animal May 2013 #10
 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
1. Do you have, erm,
Thu May 23, 2013, 01:40 PM
May 2013

links to the Facebook pages that decry this double-standard?

I agree that this is an opportunity--love it, hate it, indifferent to it, Facebook is a cultural institution at this point.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
3. I meant the latter--people organizing on FB to make them change.
Thu May 23, 2013, 01:56 PM
May 2013

Try to do as much as I can to avoid the actual pro-rape pages.

ismnotwasm

(41,992 posts)
5. This one
Thu May 23, 2013, 03:16 PM
May 2013
Open Letter to Facebook
May 21, 2013

An Open Letter to Facebook:

We, the undersigned, are writing to demand swift, comprehensive and effective action addressing the representation of rape and domestic violence on Facebook. Specifically, we call on you, Facebook, to take three actions:

Recognize speech that trivializes or glorifies violence against girls and women as hate speech and make a commitment that you will not tolerate this content.
Effectively train moderators to recognize and remove gender-based hate speech.
Effectively train moderators to understand how online harassment differently affects women and men, in part due to the real-world pandemic of violence against women.
To this end, we are calling on Facebook users to contact advertisers whose ads on Facebook appear next to content that targets women for violence, to ask these companies to withdraw from advertising on Facebook until you take the above actions to ban gender-based hate speech on your site. (We will be raising awareness and contacting advertisers on Twitter using the hashtag #FBrape.)

Specifically, we are referring to groups, pages and images that explicitly condone or encourage rape or domestic violence or suggest that they are something to laugh or boast about. Pages currently appearing on Facebook include Fly Kicking Sluts in the Uterus, Kicking your Girlfriend in the Fanny because she won’t make you a Sandwich, Violently Raping Your Friend Just for Laughs, Raping your Girlfriend and many, many more. Images appearing on Facebook include photographs of women beaten, bruised, tied up, drugged, and bleeding, with captions such as “This bitch didn’t know when to shut up” and “Next time don’t get pregnant.”


http://www.womenactionmedia.org/facebookaction/open-letter-to-facebook/

ismnotwasm

(41,992 posts)
4. I don't have FB
Thu May 23, 2013, 02:55 PM
May 2013

I keep trying to talk myself into it, my out of state daughter wants me to have it, the activism I'm interested in has FB pages, but I don't think a reason quite as quite as compelling as this-- an opportunity to be what we call a 'change agent'

I mean, I have Tango and texting and all the ways of communicating electronically I need. There is something off putting to me about FB.

Then I read something like this;

So, the censorship explanation falls flat as a beautifully tattooed post-mastectomy chest, and the question remains: why is Facebook so committed to supporting gender hate speech? One possible explanation is that its company culture has naturalised sexist norms to the point where its members truly believe, along with the creators and users of pages such as Raping Your Girlfriend, that violently misogynistic content is acceptable and funny. At base, there's little difference between classing these pages as inoffensive humour and saying: "Lighten up babe – some women can take a joke. Do you know what would sort you out? A good raping – ha ha."


And I read an article like this because something else I understand, Facebook is huge and it's not going away, and if rape culture is embedded in its little Internet soul, I have an social obligation, perhaps a human one to fight it.

ismnotwasm

(41,992 posts)
6. This campaign can be 'liked' on Facebook
Thu May 23, 2013, 04:00 PM
May 2013

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