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by Christina Taylor
KWCH 12 Eyewitness News
3:08 p.m. CDT, May 24, 2013
(COFFEYVILLE, Kan.) A brand new baby was attacked by a pit bull in Coffeyville. Police say the dog severely injured the two day old girl. The pit bull belonged to her family.
She was initially taken to the Coffeyville Regional Medical Center with life threatening injuries. She was then transported to Wesley Medical Center in Wichita and is listed in stable condition.
The Coffeyville Police Chief says the attack happened Thursday near a dog pen on the family's property. He says there were five pit bulls there and two have been put dow
http://www.kwch.com/news/kwch-kah-two-day-old-baby-attacked-by-pit-bull-20130524,0,393151.story
newmember
(805 posts)unless they have direct close supervision of the baby and dogs.
Stupid parenting
RudynJack
(1,044 posts)Ugh... I've stayed out of the pit-bull fights, but this is just ridiculously bad parenting.
Two days old?! I just shake my head... poor baby.
rl6214
(8,142 posts)She is fiercely protective of the entire family.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)You NEVER trust any dog period! That's exactly how these types of accidents happen...Any dog can potentially bite. They still have animal brains...not human's. Most dogs never bite...BUT...the possibility remains under the right set of circumstances....I have had my current dog 14 yrs and I have NEVER completely trusted him.
datasuspect
(26,591 posts)your dog doesn't love you, it is incapable of human emotion, since it is a dog.
any creature is motivated by a few very basic things:
1. Food
2. Water
3. Fear
4. Sex
etc.
a person is a pack leader to their dog because you feed it: it doesn't have to hunt or scavenge carrion. that's what a dog's "love" comprises.
pnwmom
(108,995 posts)woodsprite
(11,927 posts)We love her to bits, but I still am on guard for any time she displays different behavior, even though the kids are 13 and 20. She listens to us well, passed obedience class, but she does show aggression when other dogs are around or anyone who is non-immediate family approaches our house.
I wouldn't trust ANY animal, even any of our previous 3 cats, alone with young child -- let alone a newborn. Truthfully, in our family, 2 of the darned cats would slice/dice/bite you without the slightest provocation. The other one was large enough that it was physically hard to breathe when she laid on an adult's chest.
rl6214
(8,142 posts)They will turn on you on a dime.
Arkansas Granny
(31,532 posts)I hope the baby survives.
whatchamacallit
(15,558 posts)I think 'there but for the grace of god go you, dumbass'.
roody
(10,849 posts)Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)Something tells me they are either backyard breeders or those weren't pets ehem.
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)baldguy
(36,649 posts)TheCowsCameHome
(40,169 posts)Sickening.
baldguy
(36,649 posts)TheCowsCameHome
(40,169 posts)You win.
baldguy
(36,649 posts)Don't hate me because I can predict ignorant repetitive stupidity.
Orrex
(63,225 posts)That's not why people hate you.
TheCowsCameHome
(40,169 posts)Where did you read that part? Maybe you got your PB-mauling stories mixed up.
Talk about stupidity...........
baldguy
(36,649 posts)Tell me: If the kid had been injured in a meth lab explosion, would you be blaming people with hay fever?
TheCowsCameHome
(40,169 posts)on a number of levels, not the least of which was having their baby anywhere near, and owning, five animals that were capable of trying to kill it in the blink of an eye.
rl6214
(8,142 posts)Goose/gander.
baldguy
(36,649 posts)Any dog properly treated, trained & socialized won't attack anyone. Can't do that with guns.
There are about 300 million guns in America which are responsible for about 30,000 gun deaths. There are between 10-17 million Pit Bulls in America, and 2 people were killed by Pit Bulls in 2011. That means the average person is 500 to 850 times more likely to killed by a gun than a Pit Bull.
rl6214
(8,142 posts)Boudica the Lyoness
(2,899 posts)These are the facts; the father was holding the baby, who was coming home for the first time since being born. Suddenly, one of their pit bulls jumped up and bit OFF the baby's leg.......at the shin. It didn't NIP her leg. The pit bull bit the newborn baby's leg CLEAN off.
I have to make this clear, again, I don't want to kill your dog, or anybodies dog. I would like to see every pit bull and other fighting breed dogs in the world, spayed or neutered. If I ruled the world, you could keep your pit bull till she died peacefully of old age, or attacked someone.
I LOVE dogs that are NOT bred for killing humans and their own kind. I love and own normal pet dogs.
baldguy
(36,649 posts)So, you you being a bigoted, lying sack of shit now? Or then?
It's precisely the attitudes that you support & the sensationalism that you spread that CAUSES the abuse depicted in the OP, and dog aggression in general. When you say that you love dogs, it's like Jason Voorhees saying that he loves campers.
Orrex
(63,225 posts)Typically with a ferocity greatly disproportionate to the circumstances at hand.
Hmm...
Well, I'm sure that a lot of pit bull fetishists are misidentified by the media, leading to a reputation for viciousness in pit bull fetishists that's entirely consistent with general observation but still somehow claimed to be nonrepresentative.'
Orrex
(63,225 posts)Nine
(1,741 posts)Yes, and those of us who wish to stop that breeding are opposed by people like you.
XemaSab
(60,212 posts)n/t
baldguy
(36,649 posts)But with Pit Bulls it happens with official govt sanction.
proud2BlibKansan
(96,793 posts)cpwm17
(3,829 posts)The 89-year-old woman who was attacked by her neighbor's dog Thursday spoke to Local 6 from her hospital room.
Meitzler said she tried fighting off the dog for 15 minutes before the dog's owner, Thomas Filiault, came to her rescue.
Filiault's pit bull/lab mix, "Kira," has been taken by Seminole County Animal Services, and it's not the first time. Last month, the county took the dog after it attacked Meitzler's daughter.
"She's got scars all over her arms and chest, from when he attacked her," said Meitzler. "She'll carry those for the rest of her life."
Big surprise: it was a pit bull.
haele
(12,681 posts)I see the owner also didn't come to the woman's rescue for a good 15 minutes, so it wasn't like the dog was under control.
I got bit by a Cocker Spaniel and a Irish Setter (four stitches and a scar on my upper arm I still carry). The family St. Bernard's sire got loose for two days, fell in with a pack of other loose family dogs (a Dalmatian and a lab or retriever) that ended up killing two cats, seriously mauling a smaller dog and a four year old and threatening others before he was caught - and put down.
Six years ago, my Very Stupid Dog bounded up to a pregnant woman in a off-leash dog park and her pit-mix attacked mine - my fault for not controlling my dog properly. The dog latched on her collar, but everyone got separated within a minute because we were both there watching our dogs and could take care of the situation immediately. They offered to pay for any vet bills, but there was no damage, so no harm (but a scare to my dog)/no foul. So they found out their dog was getting over-protective so they kept her on a leash after that, and I kept a better eye on VSD.
Any dog will attack. But put the scary word "pit bull" in print, and it becomes an evil beast. Maybe it's because way too many assholes train their pit bulls as intimidators, fighting or guard dogs and don't ensure that they are the pack leaders, rather than the dog itself.
Haele
Orrex
(63,225 posts)Hmm...
99Forever
(14,524 posts)Say it ain't so.
Terra Alta
(5,158 posts)Not the dog, or the dog's breed. Dogs should not be pinned up like that. Hope the baby will be ok, and it's sad that two dogs had to be put down because of their owner's irresponsiblity.
Liberal_in_LA
(44,397 posts)Soundman
(297 posts)I find the "gun" equivocating equally appalling. I gun has no motive, no free will, no anything but the potential to do harm. A gun requires a catalyst to do anything. The pit bull on the other hand is an animal. The pitt bull not longer resembles the original AKC breed. The pit bull as it is now known is a product of breeding practices. This breeding practice has resulted in an unstable and unpredictable breed of animal. While your animal might be fine in an one owner one dog relationship, the breed in general has been proven unpredictable. In this case the statistics don't lie.
Dogs get loose, people have company over, people bring newborns into the home. It is a shame that the apologists can't come to grips with reality. You can not predict how your pit bull will act tomorrow any more than you can predict the weather on mars. Yet I am sure you will try. If only the rest of us had the prognostication powers of the average pit bull apologist, just think what we could accomplish.
shaayecanaan
(6,068 posts)Its a bit like how gun nuts like to argue that an automatic rifle is no more of a threat than a baseball bat. The way they argue that you're just as likely to be killed by your pet goldfish than you are by a pit bull terrier, it shits me to tears.
A grand total of five Americans have been killed by beagles in the history of the United States, and one of those was a child who had tied the dog's leash around her neck and choked when the dog pulled on it. Sure, you wouldn't leave a beagle with a baby, but even if you did it would probably still be alive when you got back.
Pit bulls are great pig dogs, they are absolutely fearless. I have seen a pit bull grab a wild pig by the snout and not let go even after it was gored in the belly. That is what they were bred for, and only a dim-witted idiot would try and make a suburban pet out of one.
Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)I would think that every rational person would agree there needs to be way more spaying and neutering going on (of all pets, but concentrating even more on pit bulls) because pit bulls and pit bull crosses are filling up the animal shelters. There are many, many pit bulls being euthanized every day.
How can we stop the breeders from creating more unwanted animals and encourage spaying and neutering?
I despise dog and cat breeders of all stripes. They are intentionally making more pets while umpteen thousands of wonderful animals are killed every year in shelters.
Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)Owning, buying and selling of any unfixed dogs or cats should be illegal unless you are a licensed breeder.
roody
(10,849 posts)Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)Need to change what it means to be a licences breeder and regulate them heavily to get rid of the puppy mills.
roody
(10,849 posts)Give rescuers a chance to catch up.
Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)Or five of any breed with a high pack mentality.
madmom
(9,681 posts)side of the road, the only thing separating property is trees and not in all cases. My neighbor to my left has a rottweiler, my neighbor to my right has a pit bull. They both run free. I have 3 grand daughters, the oldest being 10. They like to visit. I am very nervous and apprehensive about letting them outside to play when they are here.
Yesterday I was sitting on my deck, my cat was setting at the screen door. The pit came right up on the deck and up to the cat. So what am I supposed to do? I dare not raise my voice or act intimidating to chase him off. I have petted the dog and called him by name before, but he is fairly new to the neighborhood and does not "know" anyone.
I don't want the dog, either of them on my property but the owners say they are harmless and laugh it off.
REP
(21,691 posts)A few times picking their digs up from the pound might make it worth their while to keep them off your property.
There's a bunch of stray mixed breed dogs running loose up here that need to be kept off my land before I do something about it. They're big enough to be a problem (besides if I wanted dogshit on my land, I'd get a damned dog). Animal Control is always Step One.
PD Turk
(1,289 posts)They have a pack of dogs penned up on their property and they take their baby close enough to the pen for one of the dogs to reach it? Sheer idiocy.
And while it didn't mention it in the article, I'd be willing to bet good money that none of the dogs had been spayed/neutered.... or at least the one that did the biting. One common thread that I find in almost all the dog attacks I've read about is the attacking dog is intact.... hasn't been neutered or spayed.
Pets should be fixed. If people want to breed dogs that's another thing, breeding stock are not pets and should be handled with proper care and caution.