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FarCenter

(19,429 posts) Mon May 27, 2013, 04:25 PM May 2013

German railways to test anti-graffiti drones

Germany's national railway company, Deutsche Bahn, plans to test small drones to try to reduce the amount of graffiti being sprayed on its property.

The idea is to use airborne infra-red cameras to collect evidence, which could then be used to prosecute vandals who deface property at night.

A company spokesman said drones would be tested at rail depots soon.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-22678580

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German railways to test anti-graffiti drones (Original Post) FarCenter May 2013 OP

I really hate this trend. HiPointDem May 2013 #1

However, in this case, they are doing surveillance of their own property FarCenter May 2013 #2

german railways are majority owned by the german government, i.e. the german public. HiPointDem May 2013 #9

Although some graffiti is not very interesting to me, ZombieHorde May 2013 #3

it's not your property being vandalized dlwickham May 2013 #6

Property is an illusion. nt ZombieHorde May 2013 #7

the german railway system is public property. HiPointDem May 2013 #10

so that makes it free game for anyone to come in and vandalize it? dlwickham May 2013 #11

that means that members of the public *are* its owners. and the issue is not whether HiPointDem May 2013 #12

the issue is vandalization dlwickham May 2013 #13

there has always been 'vandalization'. other methods were used to control it. there HiPointDem May 2013 #14

Creepy, creepy, creepy world coming... woo me with science May 2013 #4

Graffiti artists to test catapaults dipsydoodle May 2013 #5

German Railways add missiles FarCenter May 2013 #8

HiPointDem

(20,729 posts)

1. I really hate this trend.

Reply to FarCenter (Original post)

Mon May 27, 2013, 04:31 PM

May 2013

FarCenter

(19,429 posts)

2. However, in this case, they are doing surveillance of their own property

Reply to HiPointDem (Reply #1)

Mon May 27, 2013, 04:33 PM

May 2013

Not much different from the normal CCTV monitoring that has been used for years, except that they can easily move them about.

HiPointDem

(20,729 posts)

9. german railways are majority owned by the german government, i.e. the german public.

Reply to FarCenter (Reply #2)

Mon May 27, 2013, 07:39 PM

May 2013

Deutsche Bahn AG (DB AG, DBAG or DB) is the German national railway company, a private joint-stock company (AG) with the federal government being its majority shareholder[2] with its headquarters in Berlin.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deutsche_Bahn_AG

ZombieHorde

(29,047 posts)

3. Although some graffiti is not very interesting to me,

Reply to FarCenter (Original post)

Mon May 27, 2013, 04:33 PM

May 2013

a lot of graffiti is beautiful or humorous to me. They should just leave it, in my opinion.

dlwickham

(3,316 posts)

6. it's not your property being vandalized

Reply to ZombieHorde (Reply #3)

Mon May 27, 2013, 05:20 PM

May 2013

ZombieHorde

(29,047 posts)

7. Property is an illusion. nt

Reply to dlwickham (Reply #6)

Mon May 27, 2013, 05:22 PM

May 2013

HiPointDem

(20,729 posts)

10. the german railway system is public property.

Reply to dlwickham (Reply #6)

Mon May 27, 2013, 07:40 PM

May 2013

dlwickham

(3,316 posts)

11. so that makes it free game for anyone to come in and vandalize it?

Reply to HiPointDem (Reply #10)

Tue May 28, 2013, 01:38 PM

May 2013

HiPointDem

(20,729 posts)

12. that means that members of the public *are* its owners. and the issue is not whether

Reply to dlwickham (Reply #11)

Tue May 28, 2013, 03:07 PM

May 2013

it's ok to vandalize it, the issue is whether drones are an appropriate way to deal with that risk.

dlwickham

(3,316 posts)

13. the issue is vandalization

Reply to HiPointDem (Reply #12)

Tue May 28, 2013, 06:48 PM

May 2013

if it wasn't, there wouldn't be a need for the drones

HiPointDem

(20,729 posts)

14. there has always been 'vandalization'. other methods were used to control it. there

Reply to dlwickham (Reply #13)

Tue May 28, 2013, 07:11 PM

May 2013

have not always been drones.

so your statement is false.

woo me with science

(32,139 posts)

4. Creepy, creepy, creepy world coming...

Reply to FarCenter (Original post)

Mon May 27, 2013, 04:39 PM

May 2013

The bug is watching you.

The Future of Drone Surveillance: Swarms of Cyborg Insect Drones
The future of drone surveillance is coming in a swarm of bug-sized flying drones
http://www.networkworld.com/community/blog/future-drone-surveillance-swarms-cyborg-insect-drones

dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)

5. Graffiti artists to test catapaults

Reply to FarCenter (Original post)

Mon May 27, 2013, 04:40 PM

May 2013

FarCenter

(19,429 posts)

8. German Railways add missiles

Reply to dipsydoodle (Reply #5)

Mon May 27, 2013, 05:59 PM

May 2013

Besides, they fly at 150 meters altitude and are quiet. You'd need a good catapault.

And since they cost 60K euros, any success in bringing one down would result in destruction of property charges far worse than for graffitti.

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