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Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
Tue May 28, 2013, 03:00 AM May 2013

Vatican corrects infallible pope: atheists will still burn in hell

The Vatican has just announced that, despite what Pope Francis said in his homily earlier this week, atheists are still going to hell.

What a relief. For a brief moment there it was possible to imagine a brave new world of compassion, generosity and acceptance, not qualities we have come to associate with the Holy See.

Said Pope Francis this week: 'The Lord has redeemed all of us, all of us, with the Blood of Christ: all of us, not just Catholics. Everyone! ‘Father, the atheists?’ Even the atheists. Everyone!'


The Rev. Thomas Rosica, a Vatican spokesman, spelled it out for the world on Thursday. People who know about the Catholic church 'cannot be saved' if they 'refuse to enter her or remain in her,' he said.

So that's one tall order of eternal hellfire for the rest of us, then.

It makes for an interesting spectacle to see the infallible pope being corrected by his handlers, doesn't it? For a moment it was possible to recall the welcoming and indulgent style of the short lived Pope John Paul I in the unexpectedly all-embracing words of Pope Francis. But you'll recall how quickly John Paul I was replaced by the much more doctrinaire John Paul II.

There's no question that Pope Francis sees the divinity in all human beings, but that's a message that comes with caveats. God may make them all, Jew and Gentile, but unless they're Catholic they're ultimately kindling. The Vatican waited 24 hours to correct him, but they corrected him.


http://www.irishcentral.com/story/ent/manhattan_diary/vatican-corrects-infallible-pope-atheists-will-still-burn-in-hell-208987111.html

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Vatican corrects infallible pope: atheists will still burn in hell (Original Post) Ichingcarpenter May 2013 OP
Whoa! This guy is just out of control! Chemisse May 2013 #1
Ewww MNBrewer May 2013 #2
That's a relief magellan May 2013 #3
Nobody but Catholics, eh? burnodo May 2013 #4
What could have possessed him? pinboy3niner May 2013 #5
Here we go again my God is better than your Gods...... Historic NY May 2013 #6
It is what brought me to my senses madokie May 2013 #7
God Only Knows Atman May 2013 #8
What's the point of having a pope if the Vatican is going to undermine him? Apophis May 2013 #9
Fixed Atman May 2013 #10
Touché, Atman. Apophis May 2013 #11
That's one random guy injecting his opinion. What the Pope said is exactly what I was taught. onehandle May 2013 #12
Could be worse LostOne4Ever May 2013 #13
FWIW, according to Wikipedia, Rosica was not a Vatican Spokesperson at the time MannyGoldstein May 2013 #14
Whew! and here I thought I wasn't going to be damned! Javaman May 2013 #15
You can get into heaven, but you have to pay the cover charge in advance. Dash87 May 2013 #16
Oh Church Lady! napkinz May 2013 #17

Chemisse

(30,813 posts)
1. Whoa! This guy is just out of control!
Tue May 28, 2013, 05:49 AM
May 2013

Imagine saying that god would welcome all to the gates of heaven!

No, no. God is quite selective, and most eager to turn away those who don't follow one very specific religious practice.

magellan

(13,257 posts)
3. That's a relief
Tue May 28, 2013, 06:30 AM
May 2013

I was very worried about having to sort out my own inexhaustible fuel supply to keep warm after I kick off.

 

burnodo

(2,017 posts)
4. Nobody but Catholics, eh?
Tue May 28, 2013, 06:34 AM
May 2013

Religions are so funny. Each and every one of them has their own belief about their own god, their own prophets, their own afterlife. They actually believe that all the heathens are doomed and they are all saved. What a bunch of freakin' lunatics.

Historic NY

(37,449 posts)
6. Here we go again my God is better than your Gods......
Tue May 28, 2013, 07:08 AM
May 2013

my church is better than your church......its either join us or burn in Hell. Isn't that attitude the one that cause the big schisms in the first place

madokie

(51,076 posts)
7. It is what brought me to my senses
Tue May 28, 2013, 07:23 AM
May 2013

and made me realize that religion is not something I care to be a part of any longer. I was 14 yo at the time. When the baptist preachers at the church my dad started and built with his own hands started telling me that my friends and their families were going to hell cause they went to a different church down the road and didn't believe as he did sent me packing. I've never looked back and now that I'm entering my later years I'm happy to know, to believe, that I'm going to be dead when I die same as that insects carcass thats on my trucks grill is now. It was a feeling of empowerment when I realized that I don't believe this religious bull any longer.
I say to each his/her own just leave me alone and I'll leave you alone.

Atman

(31,464 posts)
8. God Only Knows
Tue May 28, 2013, 08:10 AM
May 2013
http://m.



You may say I am cynical, but I say man is flawed
He has a vague memory of before some fall
Behaving like a reptile, but talks of walking tall
If god is in his image, the almighty must be small

God only knows

Swaggart has been caught with his trousers round his knees
After damning me and you to hell for eternity
Sex and power and money is the prayer of these priests
They bribe their way past heaven's gates and steal a set of keys

God only knows

My guru has been sleeping with adepts and with sheep
While I was fucking celibate, self-righteous in belief
Yesterday he was god, now he is a creep
We fell upon each other starving for belief

God only knows

I speak in the name of god
I speak in the name of that
white haired old man in the clouds
Always a man
Dispensing lightening justice from his fingertips
Watching you every second of the day
Just waiting for you to fuck up
I speak in the name of God
I'm his intermediary
I'm a Mollah, I'm a Priest, I'm a Vicar
If you want to go to God
You have to come through me

Is heaven full, oh lord, of these babbling preachers and
God-fearing biggots
All these sef-rightious, self-appointed prophets
because if so:-
I know where I'd rather be
Away from this cacophony
Away from this cacophony
God only knows
God only knows
God only knows

onehandle

(51,122 posts)
12. That's one random guy injecting his opinion. What the Pope said is exactly what I was taught.
Tue May 28, 2013, 08:27 AM
May 2013

Francis is not just any random guy.

LostOne4Ever

(9,289 posts)
13. Could be worse
Tue May 28, 2013, 08:31 AM
May 2013

He could send us to the place where he sends all rightwing fundamentalist Christians. Talk about a fate worse than hell...

 

MannyGoldstein

(34,589 posts)
14. FWIW, according to Wikipedia, Rosica was not a Vatican Spokesperson at the time
Tue May 28, 2013, 08:36 AM
May 2013

This will all be interesting because Popes tend to not put up with dissent, but Jesuits honor dissent.

So a Jesuit Pope?

Dash87

(3,220 posts)
16. You can get into heaven, but you have to pay the cover charge in advance.
Tue May 28, 2013, 10:50 AM
May 2013

St. Peter = the world's most famous bouncer.

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