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While its no news to anyone who runs into European travelers entering the second month of their time off work, the United States is pretty stingy about giving people vacation. Legally, as the Center for Economic and Policy Research reminded us last week in a reported entitled No-Vacation Nation Revisted, there is no national law requiring employers to offer holidays or vacations as there is in every other industrialized nation. We do have unpaid family leaveits even paid in a few placesbut there too the U.S. is out of step with the rest of the rich world. Individual employers, of course, can offer what they choose.
Not surprisingly, the report notes that lower-wage workers, part-timers, and those at small businesses are the least likely to have bosses who offer any vacation or paid holidays. All told, according to information gathered by the liberal-leaning think tank, 23 percent of working Americans get no paid vacation or paid holidays, and the average from those who do get some time off is less than the minimum legal standard set in the rest of the worlds rich economies excluding Japan (which guarantees only 10 paid vacation days and requires no paid holidays). Yay, American drones beat Japans fabled salarymen!
There are moves to bring the U.S. up to speed. Congressman Alan Grayson, a Democrat from Florida, just happened to introduce the Paid Vacation Act as the CEPR report was making headlines. His billI say we dub it ObamaCaresinitially offers a pretty modest one week off with pay a year for workers at concerns employing at least a hundred people. Three years after the putative law takes effect, that would rise to two weeks, and for those laboring at places with at least 50 workers the one-week-a-year provision would kick in.
Graysons bill also calls for a simultaneous study on how this mandated time off affects workplace productivity, public health, and psychological well-being.
Given the howls that accompany every effort to raise the minimum wage, including the Obama Administrations current proposal to push it to $9 an hour, and the melodrama accompanying the Affordable Care Act, I predict rough sailing for any attempt to require the private sector to offer new benefits. (Hell, we cant even hold the line on the existing ones.)
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http://www.psmag.com/culture/welcome-to-america-the-land-that-vacation-forgot-58821/
RB TexLa
(17,003 posts)LOL
TheMightyFavog
(13,770 posts)Think of all the new business...
Bake
(21,977 posts)Even with paid vacation time, some can't afford to actually GO anywhere ...
Bake
PDJane
(10,103 posts)No sick days............the list goes on.
rainbow4321
(9,974 posts)I work at a federal health care facility as a contract worker and I can tell you that the federal workers are doing just fine vacation wise.
They get 5 weeks of annual leave--which means what seems like every few months my co workers are gone on a week long vacation break from work...that is is addition to accumulating sick leave (8 hours of sick leave with every paycheck) and then on top of those things they can claim FFL which is initials for basically "my immediate family needs me for something so I can't come to work" . They can use FFL time and not have to use their annual leave or sick days.
Unfortunately, as a contract worker I don't get those benefits.
Seems wrong on every level that a government system that gives those kind of leave benefits to their own workers won't pass laws for Americans in the private sector.
Egalitarian Thug
(12,448 posts)employees you work with have nothing to do with passing laws, except insofar as they are citizens and can vote just like you?
Apparently you also failed to learn how many years of working for the government it takes to get those 5 weeks of vacation, whereas most European nations require that much time off after the first year (some are a little less, some start at 5 weeks). Horror of Horrors, they earn sick time and family leave, too? My God is there no end to the coddling of these namby-pamby leeche's offenses!?!
Your major complaint seems to be that you work for a shitty company and so are wishing that everybody else had it as bad as you, and I'll bet you wonder why this nation is so fucked up...
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)So I think the poster had it pretty well covered, it is the government system that has led to our situation these days, mostly deliberately I think.
Egalitarian Thug
(12,448 posts)benefits of working for the government, relative security and a few more days off, were the trade off for the lower pay. As far as I know the pay hasn't got better and certainly there is far less security, but employment conditions in the private sector has become far worse. The poster wasn't bitching about our elected thieves, but the everyday bureaucrats that keep the mechanism running and have nothing to do with our lack of worker's rights.
This attitude of "I'm worse off, so everybody else should suffer, too" just promotes the continual degradation. So, instead of lifting each other up, we fixate on tearing others down.
Crabs in a bucket or slowly boiling frogs, both scenarios end the same.
CrispyQ
(36,470 posts)Not sure about govt workers, but I'm certain those with 5 weeks have been with the govt for several years, at the least.
Spider Jerusalem
(21,786 posts)nope. Paid leave averages 30 days in most European countries. (That's six working weeks if you take it all at once, which most people don't.) Here in the UK the mandatory minimum holiday entitlement for persons in full-time employment is 28 days.
XemaSab
(60,212 posts)If you include taking a couple days off around holidays to go visit family and a day or so off when a friend comes to town, that's about enough time for one serious week-long trip a year.
Puzzledtraveller
(5,937 posts)it does not however equate to being able to take a "vacation" but I know some people don't even get that. As far as going on a vacation when I use vacation time? No. No money for that.