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Breaking - Susan Rice is the new National Security Advisor (Original Post) malaise Jun 2013 OP
Good choice madokie Jun 2013 #1
Watch ReTHUGs whine malaise Jun 2013 #2
You know it madokie Jun 2013 #4
You'd go for sedition; I'd go for malaise Jun 2013 #5
Both applies madokie Jun 2013 #7
Treason is defined in the Constitution. longship Jun 2013 #25
I agree with sedition. nm rhett o rick Jun 2013 #15
The most cynical Republican response to this could be: karynnj Jun 2013 #13
Potential war hawk? Not ready to judge yet... CrazyJudy Jun 2013 #3
Valid point n/t malaise Jun 2013 #6
Another April Glaspie? Roland99 Jun 2013 #16
Yes, she was, something that's always troubled me.. mountain grammy Jun 2013 #19
it is possible that she learns from mistakes. BlancheSplanchnik Jun 2013 #23
Welcome to DU my friend! hrmjustin Jun 2013 #29
I can't wait to find out his selection for UN ambassador... Firebrand Gary Jun 2013 #8
And that's my reason for welcoming the decision malaise Jun 2013 #9
Samantha Power will be UN ambassador. JaneyVee Jun 2013 #12
Yay! Another bloodthirsty neo-liberal warmonger! leftstreet Jun 2013 #31
Diplomacy is war-mongering? JaneyVee Jun 2013 #35
Good. She has earned that position. nt Pragdem Jun 2013 #10
Benghazi! Major Hogwash Jun 2013 #11
I like it! pacalo Jun 2013 #14
Did you also support the invasion of Iraq? She sure did. Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #17
k&r... karl rove is not happy, which makes me happy...fuck you karl spanone Jun 2013 #18
I note that on some occasions, Republicans being against means instant support for the issue Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #20
Lying pos karl rove calling anyone a "liar" is Cha Jun 2013 #40
Haha! And they had a problem with her being SOS. AAO Jun 2013 #21
Bravo, Bravo, Bravo!!!!! sheshe2 Jun 2013 #22
malaise Diclotican Jun 2013 #24
There's a term for this in DC: Vindication. Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2013 #26
Kick n/t politicasista Jun 2013 #27
That's a good use of her very specific expertise acquired at the U.N. during this particular time.nt patrice Jun 2013 #28
He's on live on GEM$NBComcast malaise Jun 2013 #30
She is a neoliberal warmonger. Too bad. Comrade Grumpy Jun 2013 #32
That is a problem malaise Jun 2013 #33
Just great. Time to push a new war/intervention maybe? quinnox Jun 2013 #34
This was final straw for the RWingers. DCBob Jun 2013 #36
good choice arely staircase Jun 2013 #37
We'll see how Ms. Rice's stewardship as National Security Adviser stacks up against that of indepat Jun 2013 #39
K & R Scurrilous Jun 2013 #38

madokie

(51,076 posts)
4. You know it
Wed Jun 5, 2013, 07:31 AM
Jun 2013

the republicon leadership in both houses should be brought up on sedition charges if you ask me. Its clear for all to see what their agenda is. They can't be having this very good man be seen as successful for two real reasons, One is he is a Democratic President the other is he is a Black Man. The old white mans club that has had a lock of the white house since day one is the driver for all this too. You can bet on that. They see it as if Obama is seen as a good President then it will surely usher in more people of color and heaven forbid a woman to the oval office.
IMO

malaise

(269,013 posts)
5. You'd go for sedition; I'd go for
Wed Jun 5, 2013, 07:38 AM
Jun 2013

treason.
Truth is a successful Obama destroys their carefully cultivated caricature of the black man - a stereotype that prevailed for centuries.
Sadly for them he has already torn down that wall. I detest ReTHUGs.

longship

(40,416 posts)
25. Treason is defined in the Constitution.
Wed Jun 5, 2013, 10:23 AM
Jun 2013

It's in Article III.

Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court. The Congress shall have Power to declare the Punishment of Treason, but no Attainder of Treason shall work Corruption of Blood, or Forfeiture except during the Life of the Person attainted.


In history, a charge of treason was used against political opponents. The folks who wrote the Constitution wanted to make sure that in the USA a charge of treason was not a political move. I happen to agree with that.

What the Republicans are doing is despicable but it is clearly not treason. Calling it such comes off as hyperbole. The solution resides at the ballot box.

karynnj

(59,503 posts)
13. The most cynical Republican response to this could be:
Wed Jun 5, 2013, 09:00 AM
Jun 2013

That the President can get advise from whomever he chooses - even without a title. So, if Obama wanted Rice's opinion, he already had it. However, this is a gain because now we can get an effective diplomatic person as Secretary to the UN.

Note this implicitly gives them a strong defense as to why they were negative on the idea of her as SoS. (It also matches what seemed to be the opinion of some Democrats - and may explain why few Senators sprang to her defense.) It is insidious as it places the charge that she is not diplomatic almost as fact - and because it is not important to anyone (other than Rice), it likely would not be challenged.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
23. it is possible that she learns from mistakes.
Wed Jun 5, 2013, 10:12 AM
Jun 2013

I didn't know about this, but she doesn't appear to be a brainwashed ideologue.

I'm not up on her history, but extremist ideology seems to be the province of repukes/fundies/CONservaturds. She's none of those.

But I am totally happy to see P.O. give the pukes heart attacks. May they all keel over. Face first. Into a pile of pig shit.

Firebrand Gary

(5,044 posts)
8. I can't wait to find out his selection for UN ambassador...
Wed Jun 5, 2013, 07:51 AM
Jun 2013

I love our President, I don't understand him sometimes, but I sure do love it when he stands firmly against his adversaries. Susan Rice and the appointment of the 3 judges to the DC circuit, I'm one happy guy!

spanone

(135,838 posts)
18. k&r... karl rove is not happy, which makes me happy...fuck you karl
Wed Jun 5, 2013, 09:46 AM
Jun 2013

he called her a liar on a morning show this am....again fuck you karl

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
20. I note that on some occasions, Republicans being against means instant support for the issue
Wed Jun 5, 2013, 09:54 AM
Jun 2013

but on others, such as any rights for LGBT people we are told that our Republican partners must be pleased with what we do, many Democrats spent years and years and years in agreement with Republicans about gay people. Obama spent years agreeing with them, opposing us. Joe Biden literally shouted out that he agreed with Palin during the debates, no marriage rights.
Just odd, that when it is for millions treated unfairly, it is easy for Democrats to stand with Republicans. They will do it again this week, they just took protections for us out of the Immigration Bill to please the GOP, yet again.
So when will 'Karl opposes' become reason enough to stand with those who are not rich ladies born to power with full rights and no empathy? That's my question.
The Republicans opposed a Public Option. Many Democrats,elected and otherwise, stood with them in that, or bowed to the pressure.
Selective 'courage' makes the typical cowardice seem even more pronounced.

 

AAO

(3,300 posts)
21. Haha! And they had a problem with her being SOS.
Wed Jun 5, 2013, 09:59 AM
Jun 2013

Now just listen for the "national security" "terrorists" cries by the Traitors.

FUCK THEM ALL!!!!!

sheshe2

(83,773 posts)
22. Bravo, Bravo, Bravo!!!!!
Wed Jun 5, 2013, 10:03 AM
Jun 2013
The appointment, which Mr. Obama plans to make on Wednesday afternoon, puts Ms. Rice, 48, an outspoken diplomat and a close political ally, at the heart of the administration’s foreign-policy apparatus.

It is also a defiant gesture to Republicans who harshly criticized Ms. Rice for presenting an erroneous account of the deadly attacks on the American mission in Benghazi, Libya. The post of national security adviser, while powerful, does not require Senate confirmation.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/06/us/politics/tom-donilon-to-resign-as-national-security-adviser.html?pagewanted=all&_r=2&




annnnd Thank You Malaise!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

patrice

(47,992 posts)
28. That's a good use of her very specific expertise acquired at the U.N. during this particular time.nt
Wed Jun 5, 2013, 10:33 AM
Jun 2013

malaise

(269,013 posts)
33. That is a problem
Wed Jun 5, 2013, 02:28 PM
Jun 2013

but isn't Hillary the same and everyone is promoting her as the next Presidential candidate?

arely staircase

(12,482 posts)
37. good choice
Wed Jun 5, 2013, 06:52 PM
Jun 2013

she is a brilliant woman and knows her national security...also, it will make rw heads explode.

indepat

(20,899 posts)
39. We'll see how Ms. Rice's stewardship as National Security Adviser stacks up against that of
Wed Jun 5, 2013, 08:25 PM
Jun 2013

one of her predecessors, the other Ms. Rice.

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