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pokerfan

(27,677 posts)
Wed Jun 5, 2013, 01:35 PM Jun 2013

What to expect tomorrow at the hearings in the Zimmerman case

This should be interesting. O’Mara reminds me of Jim Carrey in Liar Liar:

Fletcher: Your honor, I object!
Judge: Why?
Fletcher: Because it's devastating to my case!
Judge: Overruled.
Fletcher: Good call!


It looks like tomorrow is not going to go well for Team Z...

I think the defendant’s objections go to weight rather than admissibility, since the technology used is not novel or new. Therefore, I am predicting that Judge Nelson will deny the defense motion to exclude testimony by the defense audiologists, including Dr. Reich.

The other motion scheduled for tomorrow is the defense motion for sanctions and a judicial review of alleged prosecution discovery violations. This will involve a continuation of the hearing that began last Tuesday with Wesley West on the stand. West, the former Nassau County prosecutor who resigned due to differences of opinion with State Attorney Angela Corey last December, represents whistleblower Ben Kruidbos, the Fourth Circuit Director of Information Technology who is going to testify that Bernie de la Rionda had photographs and video from Trayvon Martin’s cell phone that he did not disclose to the defense.

As I have said before, “Who cares?” BDLR turned over the BIN file to the defense back in January, but the defense did not hire anyone to extract it or purchase the software to do it themselves. In addition, the information on the phone is not relevant, admissible or exculpatory and, in light of Mark O’Mara’s lie about a video supposedly depicting Travon laughing as his buddies beat up a homeless person, O’Mara should have the decency to withdraw the motion and apologize for filing it. He will not do that, of course.

I would deny his frivolous motion and fine him, if not jail him for contempt, but Judge Nelson is nicer than I am, so she will just deny it or hold off on issuing a ruling until after the trial, which is what she did with the last defense motion for sanctions. The testimony from the audiologists should be interesting and worth listening to. After they are finished testifying, I think O’Mara will deeply regret having asked for a Frye hearing. This is a golden opportunity for BDLR to inform the jury panel, the nation and the world on the eve of trial that Trayvon uttered the death shriek.

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What to expect tomorrow at the hearings in the Zimmerman case (Original Post) pokerfan Jun 2013 OP
I expect another delay so the Defense can release some more inadmissable info. n/t Sheepshank Jun 2013 #1
Unbelievable that they've been able to get away with that (nt) pokerfan Jun 2013 #2
voice analysis is a joke(in this case) grok Jun 2013 #3
 

grok

(550 posts)
3. voice analysis is a joke(in this case)
Wed Jun 5, 2013, 08:29 PM
Jun 2013

The reality is there is far more opinion than clear data. frankly, i would rather trust Martin's dad who initially thought it wasn't his son and then changed his mind when he realized how relevant his statement was. If he could make such a "mistake" with his OWN SON, that's not something I'd rely on

There is so much noise, you can't really do anything like a spectrum analysis. to even hear the voice clearly you would have to filter out so much of the high's and lows you would destroy anything identifiable to a specific human being like a micro tremor.

As for the voice being a man or a boy, that really is hard to say. I have heard people's tone completely change when yelling, in fear or anger or even singing. MY own dads voice went falsetto (though i wouldn't say he sounds like a boy, more like a woman) whenever i outraged him as a kid.

One think to keep in mind which i am surprised i never see discussed is how this could actually HELP GZ in his defense. Keep in mind Trayvon is no longer with us to reproduce the screaming. And GZ is! He has had almost a year to practice sounding like that tape in a yell.

So you will probably wind up with is a LOT of conflicting opinion followed by GZ sounding EXACTLY like the yelling on the tape.

The prosecution will be helpless to do anything about it.






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