Something new?
Something a partner doesn't like to do?
No partner?
Excitement?
No strings?
etc...

some sicko's out there and a lot of desperate women out there.

Works both ways.

how many johns are found beaten and ripped up or stashed in mass graves compared to prostitutes?

getting peed on.

Each and everyone with a unique tale.

Men go to prostitutes for sex. I would think that's the reason for 95% of them, anyways.

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I am guessing.

into consideration the needs, desires, or well-being of the other person.

Shorter answer: because they're pigs.

Prostitution is capitalist exploitation at its very worst.

for the girls.

Otherwise the brothel wouldnt stay in business if they didn't, wouldn't be able to keep the girls.

As you say it's Capitalism.

whether a business stays in business.

Ask Wal-Mart or the women buried in rubble in Bangladesh.

The girls are free agents in Nevada they dont like how their treated they can go to other brothels or complain.

Or frequent sex clubs or swingers parties where no money is exchanged?

Do you have a problem with that too?

People who are both doing it for the sex or whatever, go for it.

When one person is doing it to control the situation, and the other person is doing it so they don't die of starvation or homelessness, that's where the problem lies.

It's the ejection seat for any would-be relationship, something no one wants to brag about nor give up as an option when things don't work out. Further, it blows a mighty hole in the economic-determinist argument. One might pay $2,000 for sex with a beautiful woman, but the beer-gutted lout who fouls the sheets with someone at the bar at least did it for SOMETHING other than money.

"You gotta lot of talent, but you fail to see.
You paid for yours, got mine for free."

-- Jungle Bros.

they don't need or want to get paid for it.

Apparently under certain conditions, it's okay?

....men in general are roundly accused and ripped 'round these parts of "just looking for something to stick their dick into" when engaging in casual sex whereas people respond "Meh" to the notion a woman might do similar.

There are also women who use sex in their relationships as a reward/punishment thing. A control issue.

Power to use a human as an object.

Some want plain ol' sex. Some want plain ol' sex with no commitments. Some want companionship and contact with another person. Some want things their partner won't do or isn't comfortable with. Some want control. People vary.

Your second question: Hollywood makes its living from presenting fantasy. Our society is at the same time saturated with the idea of sex and prudish about the reality of sex. So Hollywood makes fantasies about sex, prostitution included. That theme makes money, and that's the long and short of it. "Sex" as a keyword on IMDB gives 72,926 results. Just FYI.

Some want sex with no strings...
Some want sex without having to lie...
Some are paying for her discretion...
Some are paying her to leave afterwards...
Some are trapped in a sexless marriage...
Some aren't capable of romantic involvement...
Some are just in a foreign country and want to sample the local flavor...
Some just want excitement...
Some are willing to pay for things their wife/partner won't do (The Elliot Spitzer effect)...

Those are understandable I suppose. The problem is there are other groups that combine to make to large a group. Most of them want to abuse a woman for whatever reason, and know a prostitute doesn't have much hope of legal recourse.

And I specifically used the word 'something' for a reason.

Like ex-smokers or something.

Please tell us your version of the sob story for the man who rents a woman's body.

And from what they have told me, they spend more time just talking to their clients than actual sex.
I think some guys are just lonely, some feel they can't talk to their wives about certain things, and some just have a hard time initiating a conversation with a woman.
Legalize it.
As George Carlin said "Sex is legal and selling is legal...why isn't selling sex legal?" and "there are worse things you can do to a person than give them an orgasm."

Men desperate enough that they feel they need to pay a woman to spend time with them, in some way, couldn't be looking for connection. It has to be about total power and control over women, because, men have it all, and it's men paying women.

I have heard about more than one client who was shaking because they were so nervous.
Sure, I suppose some guys crave power, but one of the escorts I know was a dominatrix and the men that came to her were very powerful and wanted someone else to take charge.
I don't completely understand it, but I think it can't ALL be about total power and control over women.
I think the real issues are more complex...

And I still do.

I read that wrong.

I was ignoring that haunting line from The Boxer: "I declare, sometimes I was so lonesome I took some comfort there."

I'm thinking of the miners in the gold fields, too.

whose lives don't provide them with many opportunities for affection.

It's really not that complicated. This simplistic seventh grade interpretation of popular psychology about it being all about power and control ignores the basic reality that male humans especially during a certain age period of their lives are frequently confronted with a strong biological urge for sex while access to sex or at least uncomplicated sex with someone they actually feel attracted to can be very limited.

Now why would someone who is young, rich and handsome frequent prostitutes - that I don't know - except to suggest that some people want a completely no strings attached sexual liaison that satisfies a particular need. But for the person who is neither young, rich or handsome - getting laid with someone who is young and attractive is simply not that easy and may not even be probable. Prostitution makes it very probable and relatively easy

these aren't high school kids, these are men 30-70 years old.

A lot of them married.

If you think that there aren't women in that age group with some dollars that don't buy themselves some sex....you know, a power thing.

There are so many jobless young men out there looking for sugar mommas its hysterical. It's not something I could ever jump on, but I've been solicited. Besides, I don't have the disposable income to keep a young stud in my stable.

Your ideas need some expansion. It IS more complicated!
How do you explain away the perfectly functioning R or L hand?

The idea of an escort is easier to explain... it makes someone feel good to show off a good looking companion on their arm, in addition to sex.

I recommend reading Marquis De Sade "Justine".

one of the (male) actors testified that he had no qualms about paying women from a reputable outfit because he didn't have to worry as much about disease and cash-in pregnancies (something pro athletes are constantly warned about when they make the big time) which just happen to happen when some "powerless women" somehow forget to take the pill or use some other contraceptive device.

For most of history it is part of a lifetime partnership. And people don't have to be young and attractive - the unattractive and the old have each other, it's like paying for someone who is not attracted to you, because they are more attractive, is really so important? Who is going to know? And the average real life prostitute is not pretty. If she were, she'd have a better life.

I'm sure there are a bunch of reasons.

There are a lot of people in this world living very lonely lives, and humans are social creatures with a real need for contact with other humans. For many of them, seeking out a prostitute is a respite from that loneliness.

Then there's also the fact that fucking feels good. In that regard, it's no different than smoking pot, having a few beers, or even jumping out of airplanes and racing cars. People do all sorts of things for no other reason than the fact that they're ENJOYABLE. Sex pretty much ranks at the top of that list. Paying a bit of money to do something enjoyable is a pretty standard thing in our society.

IMHO, most Johns fall into one of those two categories. There are probably dozens of other reasons why men see prostitutes, but the bulk of them fall between these two.

...the saddest and perhaps most disturbing thing I'd read frequently at the text conversations used as evidence, were the ones where the women would stupilate how far they would permit a "John" to go with degredation. Such as "you can give me a golden shower, but you can't crap in my mouth".

For that reasons alone, I'd say there is a class of johns that visit a prostitute as some sort of power trip so they can humiliate another human being without repercussion.

Want to have sex with like human beings is too difficult.

Not the only factor, but yes, the #1 reason.

on another forum that men don't pay women to have sex. They pay them to leave.

For some, I'm sure this is a true statement. I love the company of a woman, all the time. I guess this is why I have never been with a prostitute.

that's what happens when you treat people like human beings

At least I've had my wife thinking so for about 23 years anyway.

yes INDEED

Sometimes they just tip the delivery boy a little something extra, but it happens all the time. I think the most common theme with prostitution, whether it's men or women, is the fulfillment of a fantasy. The sex is only part of the overall fantasy. They have these fantasies about the kind of relationships they desire and they know those fantasies can't or won't be fulfilled by average people, so they pay people to provide the fantasy.

A lot of prostitutes have fantasies, too, usually about some rich person who comes along and falls in love with them and takes them away from their sordid lives. Some prostitutes like the sense of power they have over their tricks, often because they come from a background in which they were at the mercy of other people.

Prostitution exists because people want to escape their reality, the same reason they turn to drugs, drunkenness, gambling, and other vices. People can only take so much reality before they need an escape.

--Seeking Oblivion, no matter how temporary. A very human way of decreasing stress. It's there in so many common coping mechanisms. I agree with putting this one in the dangerous category also, if it becomes something later regretted.

Go and read the john's descriptions of their "fantasy fulfillment" a few posts up.

Go and walk on certain streets after dark.

Got to the diner on those streets at about 11 in the morning and listen to the girls as they have breakfast.

Prostitution exists for exploitation.

Lets end these dumb laws. Make it SAFE & legal.

I don't care about the reasons, to be honest. If two consenting adults want to have sex and exchange money for it, it's none of my business.

It just seems so cold and mechanical. No Thanks.

however, one reason I haven't seen here is the urge to be "bad." The thrill of what is considered by society to be naughty and furtive. Hooked on the excitement. Of course this applies to men (& women) who have affairs they don't pay for also. But if none of this wasn't considered bad it wouldn't be as much fun.

An overwhelming urge to have impersonal one-night stands in weird places with rental women I would say, doesn't make one very good marriage material LOL. One day probably it will be more acceptable for people who want multiple partners to just stay out of monogamy or find others like them. The urge to have the wife and the plaything the wife knows nothing about ("oh you naughty boy&quot seems kind of narcissist and adolescent. Just a displacement activity until the SHTF.

Anyway I just wanted to add the bad boy element--very attractive to some personality types. It's not just an urge for sex--not at all. Psychological factors are more important than the physical, in this kind of sexual activity.

Others have already pointed out the many reasons men see prostitutes, so I won't repeat them here.

But I will take umbrage to your assertion that men needing sex is a "meme". It's not a meme, it's the truth. I'm utterly flabbergasted that there are still people (women, mostly, it seems) who can't get over the fact that men need sex. If we're not getting it from our wives or girlfriends, or if we don't have wives or girlfriends, we will get it however we can. Yeah, it's a spectrum and some people are asexual and everyone has a different sex drive. I get that. For the most part, what I'm saying is the truth, so deal with that.

I will also call total bullshit on your implication that men just want to control women. Bullshit, bullshit, bullshit. If anything, escorts have more power over their clients than their clients have over them.

by another human being.

A complete lie.

and also says he knows several prostitutes and that none of them do it for the money.

Pathological.

Notice, btw, that sex is something they extract from women--the women need to 'give it to them' (one way or another).

Quite a guy...

by another human being."

oh yes he neeeeeeeeds it.

I wonder if someone with this sense of entitlement has difficulty getting sex for free? Just musing.

Thank you.

Most men I know would disagree with you there.

Take your time.

To imply that a person needs something is to imply that they would not be able to survive without it. Such a claim requires some sort of scientific evidence. I am aware of none.

It's as possible to survive without sexual intimacy as it is possible to survive without family or friends.

I'll concede that there are less objective measures of the word.

Assuming we're talking about a psychological "need", I still haven't seen it established that the physical act of *sex* would even qualify as a need. Intimacy, yeah. But you can have healthy, intimate relationships without the physical act.

I see nothing to prove the claim that "men need sex". Especially not moreso than women, who I don't believe seek prostitution at the same rates.

The definition offered by most men is different from the one most women provide. Reasonable people can disagree upon the degree of difference.

Women don't seek prostitutes because male sex is ubiquitous. There is no need to purchase it, neither with money nor in exchange for commitment.

That explains nothing. That this doesn't occur to you says a great deal.

Less than zero actually, since most women can go to a lounge and get him to pay for the drinks.

The poster said men need sex, and that for some reason women don't understand that. Women also need sex, and I would wager if some of these men who feel their wives or partners feel they don't have enough sex with them were more attentive to their partners' sexual needs, they'd find her much more eager.

You've agreed that both men and women need sex.

Sex from men is abundant, plentiful and ubiquitous. No begging, cajoling, persuading or being "attentive to their partner's sexual needs" is required to trigger their willingness.

Sex is a currency and it has always been since the dawn of humanity. It should be unsurprising that this currency has an exchange rate.

The reason that I think women don't frequent them more is we can't, or don't think we can, get what we need from an escort. Women like to feel desired and cared for. A monetary exchange nullifies that. Also we're more complicated in our sex organs, which is the basis of my theory for why men feel that women don't have enough sex. Basically if men paid more attention to women's sexual needs, they'd find far more willing partners. I expect there are a few men in this forum who are particularly adept at pleasing their partners, and as a result have as much sex as they want. Expecting women to have sex without having as orgasm is not going to result in an eager partner.

and feel dissatisfied if they don't get it, but no medical chart has listed "lack of sex" as the cause of death.

But yeah, this person views sex as something that women are supposed to provide to men, or else.

and scientifically demonstrated. So if we see sex as an extension of human touch, then it is a need. When people don't have sex they tend to compensate for its absence in other ways.

My point was that viewing sexual need as particular to men is really the problem. I maintain that men who pay more attention to women's sexual needs find more willing partners.

orifices tends to lead to a more rewarding experience for all involved.

If people need touch, they can buy a pet.

caring about who they are, understanding that for women seduction is primarily mental, and frankly making good use of one's tongue.

the mind is where it's at

Not being a man, you don't understand.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/60/Maslow's_Hierarchy_of_Needs.svg/450px-Maslow's_Hierarchy_of_Needs.svg.png

Again, that would explain a lot.

However, your post is proof positive that at least one needs reading comprehension lessons.