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Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts) Thu Jun 6, 2013, 01:47 PM Jun 2013

Verizon Customers Likely Can't Escape NSA Surveillance

Posted: 06/06/2013 12:37 pm EDT

Verizon customers outraged at the revelation that the company has been turning over their phone records to the U.S. government can do little to dodge the government surveillance program, even by switching phone carriers, telecommunications experts said.

"I think it's quite probable, given the breadth of the Verizon order, that similar orders have been granted for all major telephone companies," said Sascha Meinrath, vice president of the New America Foundation, a nonpartisan think tank. "We are likely looking at a nation-wide fishing expedition of everyone's phone records and geolocation, updated daily and covering nearly every call originating in the U.S."

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/06/verizon-nsa-surveillance_n_3395925.html

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Verizon Customers Likely Can't Escape NSA Surveillance (Original Post) Cali_Democrat Jun 2013 OP

Sad, but most likely true Sherman A1 Jun 2013 #1

Maybe for a few days arikara Jun 2013 #2

that's me too, arikara Skittles Jun 2013 #3

While I appreciate your viewpoint on the use of a cell phone Sherman A1 Jun 2013 #4

LOL Skittles Jun 2013 #6

Oh, I completely understand Sherman A1 Jun 2013 #7

go check your phone! Skittles Jun 2013 #8

"... The order ... directs a Verizon Communications subsidiary, Verizon Business Network Services, struggle4progress Jun 2013 #5

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)

1. Sad, but most likely true

Reply to Cali_Democrat (Original post)

Thu Jun 6, 2013, 01:51 PM

Jun 2013

That said, I wonder if this will have any affect on Verizon's business?

arikara

(5,562 posts)

2. Maybe for a few days

Reply to Sherman A1 (Reply #1)

Thu Jun 6, 2013, 02:21 PM

Jun 2013

but unfortunately the public has a short attention span. And nothing interferes with walking around poking at their cell phones. I think I'll stick with my $10 month pay as you go model that I never turn on.

Skittles

(153,174 posts)

3. that's me too, arikara

Reply to arikara (Reply #2)

Thu Jun 6, 2013, 02:46 PM

Jun 2013

no checking my phone 150 times a day like the average distracted IDIOT

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)

4. While I appreciate your viewpoint on the use of a cell phone

Reply to Skittles (Reply #3)

Thu Jun 6, 2013, 02:59 PM

Jun 2013

I don't really see your statement "no checking my phone 150 times a day like the average distracted IDIOT" as being very kind.

People have different uses for these devices in their lives and frankly your remark comes off as rather judgmental.

Skittles

(153,174 posts)

6. LOL

Reply to Sherman A1 (Reply #4)

Thu Jun 6, 2013, 04:23 PM

Jun 2013

oh dear - so sorry to offend those who have to check their phones 150 times a day

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)

7. Oh, I completely understand

Reply to Skittles (Reply #6)

Thu Jun 6, 2013, 04:27 PM

Jun 2013

Bye......

Skittles

(153,174 posts)

8. go check your phone!

Reply to Sherman A1 (Reply #7)

Thu Jun 6, 2013, 04:36 PM

Jun 2013

struggle4progress

(118,320 posts)

5. "... The order ... directs a Verizon Communications subsidiary, Verizon Business Network Services,

Reply to Cali_Democrat (Original post)

Thu Jun 6, 2013, 03:51 PM

Jun 2013

to turn over ... all call logs ... Verizon Business Network Services is one of the nation’s largest telecommunications and Internet providers for corporations. It is not clear whether similar orders have gone to other parts of Verizon ..."
U.S. Is Secretly Collecting Records of Verizon Calls (NYT)
By CHARLIE SAVAGE and EDWARD WYATT
Published: June 5, 2013
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/06/us/us-secretly-collecting-logs-of-business-calls.html?nl=todaysheadlines&emc=edit_th_20130606&_r=0

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