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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe Himalayas and nearby peaks have lost no ice in past 10 years, study shows
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2012/feb/08/glaciers-mountainsThe world's greatest snow-capped peaks, which run in a chain from the Himalayas to Tian Shan on the border of China and Kyrgyzstan, have lost no ice over the last decade, new research shows. The discovery has stunned scientists, who had believed that around 50bn tonnes of meltwater were being shed each year and not being replaced by new snowfall.
The melting of Himalayan glaciers caused controversy in 2009 when a report from the UN's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change mistakenly stated that they would disappear by 2035, instead of 2350. However, the scientist who led the new work is clear that while greater uncertainty has been discovered in Asia's highest mountains, the melting of ice caps and glaciers around the world remains a serious concern.
"Our results and those of everyone else show we are losing a huge amount of water into the oceans every year," said Prof John Wahr of the University of Colorado. "People should be just as worried about the melting of the world's ice as they were before."
The scientists are careful to point out that lower-altitude glaciers in the Asian mountain ranges sometimes dubbed the "third pole" are definitely melting. Satellite images and reports confirm this. But over the study period from 2003-10 enough ice was added to the peaks to compensate.
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demosincebirth
(12,541 posts)RC
(25,592 posts)Neue Regel
(221 posts)But, even though they were wrong, they're still right.
renie408
(9,854 posts)The Himalayas are not losing ice, so global warming isn't happening.
Right.
bongbong
(5,436 posts)Thanks for letting us know what "misleading headline" means.
Neue Regel
(221 posts)Did the Himalayas and nearby peaks actually lose ice?
Are you saying a headline can't be misleading if it is from the Guardian?
It is misleading because the article itself says "The scientists are careful to point out that lower-altitude glaciers in the Asian mountain ranges". The headline does not match that statement.
Critical thinking is a must in a world where corporate (i.e, anti-people) interests control 99% of the media.
renie408
(9,854 posts)Did I miss the 'post a random article' memo? Is there a point here? Want to expound...cause if you think the point here is obvious, I am not getting it. Of course, it's 3:30 am where I am and I can't sleep, so maybe it will be clear to me in the morning.
cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)Denier.
renie408
(9,854 posts)Seriously. I must be tired.
Neue Regel
(221 posts)Generall speaking, in any large group if one does not parrot established truthisms, large numbers of people get upset at you because you're rocking the boat. Why can't everyone just go along to get along? Don't shake up the status quo!
I have to say, though, that it stands to reason if the earth has been warming as much as we have been told wouldn't we see some ice loss in this region? Even just a little?
renie408
(9,854 posts)No, don't answer that. Just forget that.
I think you think that you are unpopular because you are this lone voice of reason trying to swim against a tide of brainwashed zombies washing downstream. I am really mixing my nautical metaphors there, but you get the idea. I don't think this post is complete bullshit because everybody else thinks it is complete bullshit. I think it is complete bullshit because the fact that the ice is still the same thickness now on the top of the highest mountain peaks in the world as it was ten years ago does ZERO to refute global warming. How about the ice just a little bit further down? Is it just as thick as ten years ago? Where does the ice level change? Has that line been gradually moving up the mountains implying that given enough time, there WILL be a change in the ice at the top of the Himalayas?
I believe in global warming because the globe is getting warmer. That seems pretty straight forward to me. Now, I know that in your head I just joined the ranks of the brainwashed zombies. And that's whatever.
you do not understand Global Climate Change. See my post #14.
Your statement does not apply to scientific discovery. See Einstein, Bohr, Watson & Crick, Alvarez et al.
obamanut2012
(26,099 posts)Do you not believe in climate change?
trumad
(41,692 posts)Could you not be more obvious?
Hey look---it's snowing very hard ---so---chuckle---chuckle---chuckle---where is Global Warming?
Bandit
(21,475 posts)will vary.. Some will become more dry, some more wet, some cooler some warmer, but as a whole the earth will get warmer and lose more ice than it builds...During this last decade it would appear that the mountains in this area are not loosing ice. They aren't gaining ice either.. Other mountain ranges such as the Andes are losing ice in large degree. I don't believe there are ANY scientist anywhere that doubt the earth is warming....The reasons are what is being debated..
Electric Monk
(13,869 posts)nt
RC
(25,592 posts)Just because the ice at very high altitudes is not disappearing? It still is at lower altitudes.
"Global Warming" can and does cause cooling in some areas. That in itself is not proof global warming in not happening.
edhopper
(33,606 posts)Global Climate CHANGE! And some areas, like the interior of Antarctica will recieve more snow, while it's coastal areas melt. This does not change the model.
As a matter of fact the ocean levels fell last year by a very small amount. This was because the extra water from the rising temps fell as rain inland and flooded place like Autstralia. The amount of liquid water, not frozen, continued to increase.
trumad
(41,692 posts)You've already had a thread hidden with your Denial shit...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002240573
You going for two?