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"Rachel Maddow spoke for a lot of progressives, as usual, when she admitted on her show Thursday night, about the rolling wave of revelations about NSAs data-dragnet: Part of me feels like screaming, part of me feels like weve known this was going on since 2006-2007.
"Its true, weve learned a lot about aspects of the vast post-9/11 surveillance state in the last 10 years, and its hard to keep track of who knew what when, and what mattered most about each revelation (including these latest). Its true that George W. Bush took both the Patriot Act and the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act and pushed them beyond the boundaries of legality and then Congress acted, not to rebuke Bush or rein him in, but to make those abuses legal."
The laws havent been secret, but the ways the administration interprets and acts on the law long have been. Sens. Jeff Merkley, Mark Udall and Ron Wyden have been trying to tell us this for a long time; they and others, like Illinois Sen. Dick Durbin, say these new revelations ought to force much more accountability on the administration. (Sen. Dianne Feinstein, by contrast, defends it all on the grounds that its kept us safe, and Lindsey Graham is proud to have Verizon sharing his phone records with the government.)
http://www.salon.com/2013/06/07/america_the_passive/
usGovOwesUs3Trillion
(2,022 posts)but not the extra scrutiny of ALL the American people, that is another thing that sticks in my crawl... thank you for sharing Rachels thoughts, I don't have teeVee so I don't get to see her show, just read about it, or sometimes snippets that are posted online about serious topics that I care about, like this one.
Thanks for sharing
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)abuses when we won so definitively in 2008. But Bush is still winning, his old war criminal friends are all over the place feeling vindicated and letting us know, as they praise this president for 'protecting the American people'. As Obama once said, to try to make some kind of point to Republicans for giving him a hard time, 'but I even alienate my own base to try to give them things they want', or words to that effect. He seemed proud of that accomplishment.
I am not alienated, I am moving on now as this is a waste of time. He has spoken today and admitted his support for these abuses, there is nothing more to say about that.
What we must do now is to begin the difficult process of finding representatives who are actually opposed to the destruction of our rights. Not people who just say so, after all Obama said so and now is saying something entirely different.
We need to focus on Congress, intensely. The WH appears to be totally under the control of the Corps or whoever they are.
But Congress CAN control the WH still, and it is more difficult for them to go after hundreds of people than to go after one.
So we know the facts now better than we ever did before, and now is the time to start acting, as we did in 2008, when we won, except we did not have the info we now have.