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kentuck

(111,110 posts)
Mon Jun 10, 2013, 09:36 AM Jun 2013

We live in a dangerous world.

Sometimes planes fly into buildings and kill thousands of people. Sometimes nuts walk into classrooms and kill dozens of kids. Sometimes tons of ammonium nitrate blow up in a plant and looks like a small nuclear explosion. We cannot escape every danger in the world.

For example, over 3,000 people were killed on September 11, 2001 when terrorists flew planes into the WTC and the Pentagon. However, since that date, over 300,000 people have been killed by guns. Which is the most dangerous and which is the most likely to happen to you?

Why didn't we create a Homeland Security to protect us from the guns and violence that is all around us? Why should we fear the "terrorists" more than the guy with a sick mind and an automatic weapon?

Everyone wants to live in safety. They are willing to surrender their constitutional rights for the promise of safety. They have been sold an illusion, based on fear and propaganda.

There is no doubt but that there are people in this world that hate us and would like to do us harm. Maybe they are in Syria? Maybe they are in Iraq? Maybe they are in Iran? Maybe they are in North Korea? Maybe they are in Pakistan? Our silence and lack of knowledge allows our country to create more and more enemies everyday. Then they want you to be fearful of these enemies.

But the bottom line is that the more rights you surrender, the less safe you will be. You will never be safe. Also, you will never be free. And when you check into your hotel room, you will wonder whether there is a secret camera somewhere? But you should not be concerned about your privacy. After all, if you have done nothing wrong, you have nothing to hide.

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We live in a dangerous world. (Original Post) kentuck Jun 2013 OP
++Good! Newest Reality Jun 2013 #1
Complete security is a dangerous illusion. Laelth Jun 2013 #2
well said kentuck Jun 2013 #4
Consider this ... Eddie Haskell Jun 2013 #3
The wisest words spoken after 9/11 were by Richard Gephardt of Missouri when he said.... world wide wally Jun 2013 #5
Sinister little plot damnedifIknow Jun 2013 #6
A "dangerous world"? Life expectancy continues to rise. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2013 #7
I fear a nut with a gun in a public place than I fear any so called terrorist group. Initech Jun 2013 #8

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
2. Complete security is a dangerous illusion.
Mon Jun 10, 2013, 09:45 AM
Jun 2013

You make that point nicely. What we're discussing now is precisely how dangerous our desire for security and safety can prove to be.

-Laelth

Eddie Haskell

(1,628 posts)
3. Consider this ...
Mon Jun 10, 2013, 10:23 AM
Jun 2013

Since 911 the TSA has spent billions to protect (harass) us from terrorism. Yet, you are much more likely to die from a flight related blood clot than an act of terror; and since 911, the airlines have decreased passenger seating space.

This isn't about our safety or our comfort. It's about our control.

world wide wally

(21,755 posts)
5. The wisest words spoken after 9/11 were by Richard Gephardt of Missouri when he said....
Mon Jun 10, 2013, 12:10 PM
Jun 2013

"Freedom is not our vulnerability,... Freedom is our strength."

I was never a big fan of Gephardt because I thought he gave in far to much to Bush after that election, but I sure wish more people had paid attention to his words on this matter. It seems like we have become a nation of sniveling cowards willing to give up any and all freedom just to make sure we are as safe as mommy made us feel when we were little children.
Is this really the "home of the BRAVE"? ... Now that is something i would like to see more of.

And NO... guns do NOT make us safer.

damnedifIknow

(3,183 posts)
6. Sinister little plot
Mon Jun 10, 2013, 12:40 PM
Jun 2013

Let's go out and create enemies and in return we will snatch rights away from the people in the name of safety. It's foolproof.

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
7. A "dangerous world"? Life expectancy continues to rise.
Mon Jun 10, 2013, 12:49 PM
Jun 2013

It was a hell of a lot more dangerous a century ago when plagues and famines and colonialism were slaughtering millions.

It's still a dangerous world in 3rd world countries and among the poor. Far, far, more dangerous than it is for us who quail before "terrorism" and give up our liberties to "protect" ourselves.

Initech

(100,104 posts)
8. I fear a nut with a gun in a public place than I fear any so called terrorist group.
Mon Jun 10, 2013, 01:05 PM
Jun 2013

This gun fetish in this country has got to go away permanently. These things have killed far more Americans than al Qaeda ever could. A shooting happens like Sandy Hook. You know what the public reaction is? Retailers can't keep guns and ammo on the shelves! And then we wonder why we read stories like "4 year old shoots six year old sister". I guess Ben Franklin was right - those that trade freedom for security don't deserve either.

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