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Tom Tomorrow: The Five Stages of Living in a National Surveillance State (Original Post) Hissyspit Jun 2013 OP
never fails to please. thanks for posting. boston bean Jun 2013 #1
Bingo. (nt) DirkGently Jun 2013 #2
Beautiful! Solly Mack Jun 2013 #3
On DU Cirque du So-What Jun 2013 #4
Fact that! jonthebru Jun 2013 #54
Move along, nothing to see. Arctic Dave Jun 2013 #5
How dare they exploit our meek acquiescence to power! G_j Jun 2013 #6
Are we watching the Outing or the Rollout of the Panopticon... err I mean PRISM? Junkdrawer Jun 2013 #8
^^^THIS^^^ deserves its own OP. Chilling. Gobsmacked. Everyone should read this. Melinda Jun 2013 #32
Posted this Saturday... Junkdrawer Jun 2013 #33
The article and excerpts and/or video are missing? Can you edit to add, or, am I just nuts? Melinda Jun 2013 #35
Read the Panopticon article AFTER my post... Junkdrawer Jun 2013 #36
The teabaggers have just one stage BlueStreak Jun 2013 #7
He missed one- Embrace n2doc Jun 2013 #9
That is the stage where the Blue Pill is eaten. bvar22 Jun 2013 #48
Quick! Send the apologists Tom Tomorrow's e-mail address LondonReign2 Jun 2013 #10
Lots of #5 on DU today (nt) Nye Bevan Jun 2013 #11
Queen Victoria's take on the NSA spying alfredo Jun 2013 #12
excellent, and in the democratic laboratory DU is supposed to be stupidicus Jun 2013 #13
Probably a reaction to being raped by LEFTISTS! Egalitarian Thug Jun 2013 #20
lol stupidicus Jun 2013 #25
A polite request... Maedhros Jun 2013 #31
Certainly NP, but it was not a metaphor. It was a reference Egalitarian Thug Jun 2013 #34
Cartoons for thinking people. marmar Jun 2013 #14
Nailed it again... zeemike Jun 2013 #15
I have been raging against this..... AnneD Jun 2013 #16
Appropriate. It was a sad day. marions ghost Jun 2013 #17
I learned too late to follow bad bills Angelonthesidelines Jun 2013 #28
And just because... AnneD Jun 2013 #41
That is awesome. Wish I was there to savor the moment. n/t Hotler Jun 2013 #57
I was so proud of them..... AnneD Jun 2013 #58
A gulag bought and paid for by chervilant Jun 2013 #43
When the President does it, that means that it is not illegal. mahatmakanejeeves Jun 2013 #18
K&R, nailed it. (n/t) MadrasT Jun 2013 #19
i dont always agree with tom tomorrow, but markiv Jun 2013 #21
I wish I could just go ahead and move on to 5, but I seem to be stuck in 4. corkhead Jun 2013 #22
K&R! n/t whatchamacallit Jun 2013 #23
k&r for the truth, however depressing it may be. n/t Laelth Jun 2013 #24
K&R LWolf Jun 2013 #26
I'm stuck at ground zero. Buzz Clik Jun 2013 #27
Straining the ocean Angelonthesidelines Jun 2013 #29
Number five is where citizens in police states live nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #30
k&r Electric Monk Jun 2013 #37
The Prescient George Orwell colsohlibgal Jun 2013 #38
I still have my first anti-nuke pin: chervilant Jun 2013 #44
K&R! Fire Walk With Me Jun 2013 #39
We passed the fifth stage long ago. nt DissidentVoice Jun 2013 #40
Very true indeed.... humbled_opinion Jun 2013 #42
Tom Tomorrow: Truth in art. nt Zorra Jun 2013 #45
What's sooo great about Tom is he makes this situation hilarious. Coyotl Jun 2013 #46
Rec Demo_Chris Jun 2013 #47
We're all Germans now. blkmusclmachine Jun 2013 #49
How many times did the media tell us we were so scared we let this happen? Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2013 #50
K&R... midnight Jun 2013 #51
Spot on. jsr Jun 2013 #52
I dont think that's funny at all. nm rhett o rick Jun 2013 #53
When they came for the telemarketers, I remained silent; I wasn't a telemarketer. Kurovski Jun 2013 #55
Rec #200. HughBeaumont Jun 2013 #56

Melinda

(5,465 posts)
32. ^^^THIS^^^ deserves its own OP. Chilling. Gobsmacked. Everyone should read this.
Mon Jun 10, 2013, 12:49 PM
Jun 2013


And, I am encouraged that EarlG and now Skinner are sharing these OP images. It forebodes well for DU, I think.

Thanks for posting this, Junkdrawer - I may have missed it otherwise.

Melinda

(5,465 posts)
35. The article and excerpts and/or video are missing? Can you edit to add, or, am I just nuts?
Mon Jun 10, 2013, 01:18 PM
Jun 2013

Don't answer the last question, please. I'll gladly rec. Thanks again.

Junkdrawer

(27,993 posts)
36. Read the Panopticon article AFTER my post...
Mon Jun 10, 2013, 01:23 PM
Jun 2013

And I agree with Think Progress...Panopticon is more apt.

But clearly we're on the same wavelength. And now that more has come out about Snowden, well, let's just say Rollout is looking better and better.

I hesitate because I could be wrong and help to smear a true patriot.

 

BlueStreak

(8,377 posts)
7. The teabaggers have just one stage
Mon Jun 10, 2013, 10:10 AM
Jun 2013

1) Insanity: "Give me my gun and I'll stood the damn terrorists dead."

n2doc

(47,953 posts)
9. He missed one- Embrace
Mon Jun 10, 2013, 10:13 AM
Jun 2013

As in "I am really happy My President is keeping me safe from the Bad Guys! Best President Ever!"


bvar22

(39,909 posts)
48. That is the stage where the Blue Pill is eaten.
Mon Jun 10, 2013, 06:32 PM
Jun 2013
[font size=3]"This is your last chance. After this, there is no turning back. You take the blue pill - the story ends, you wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the red pill - you stay in Wonderland, and I show you how deep the rabbit hole goes. Remember, all I'm offering is the truth - nothing more." [/font]

 

stupidicus

(2,570 posts)
13. excellent, and in the democratic laboratory DU is supposed to be
Mon Jun 10, 2013, 10:33 AM
Jun 2013

we can witness first hand the lack of difficulty some of the lab rats it appears, have in jumping straight to acceptance

AnneD

(15,774 posts)
16. I have been raging against this.....
Mon Jun 10, 2013, 10:58 AM
Jun 2013

Last edited Mon Jun 10, 2013, 05:02 PM - Edit history (1)

since the Patriot Act.

I use to have a display on my wall of the Declaration of Independence, the Gettysburg Address, my military photo and my Discharge certificate on the wall. The day they passed the the Patriot Act....I took them off the wall. America isn't my America anymore. It is nothing more than a Gulag.

 
28. I learned too late to follow bad bills
Mon Jun 10, 2013, 12:18 PM
Jun 2013

And learned posthumously what the PATRIOT Act meant.

I also learned names of bills in the sausage mill mean opposite to what they sound like.

AnneD

(15,774 posts)
41. And just because...
Mon Jun 10, 2013, 05:01 PM
Jun 2013

it is a democrat telling it to you with a smile, doesn't make it any better than a republican yelling it at you.

For my daughter's open house in middle school, they read the Patriot Act aloud, like a Greek Chorus. Everyone sat in stunned silence, jaws dropped. It was all we talked about after the performance, and people applauded the director and students. I lodged a complaint to my Representative but I am a liberal in Texas...that's like being a voice in the wilderness. I am in the blue oasis of Houston but Jesus, Mary and Joseph.......

AnneD

(15,774 posts)
58. I was so proud of them.....
Tue Jun 11, 2013, 09:48 AM
Jun 2013

I remember helping her rehearse the lines but she wouldn't tell me what it was.

We are going down an ugly road and their are voices all around telling us to go back-but many, especially are leaders, are not listening.

chervilant

(8,267 posts)
43. A gulag bought and paid for by
Mon Jun 10, 2013, 05:26 PM
Jun 2013

the corporate megalomaniacs who've usurped our media, our politics AND our global economy.

Too few of our politicians and an appallingly SMALL number of our citizenry have a clue...

 
29. Straining the ocean
Mon Jun 10, 2013, 12:24 PM
Jun 2013

Need not include us.

We volunteer to every aspect of this surveillance by signing that phone contract. We must register ourselves to email facebook and every other electronic pathway Prism has to our lives.

I have acquaintances who eschew banks, debit/credit cards, phones, television, and every other blinking light beeping device we take for granted.

I find these people to be among the happiest I personally know.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
30. Number five is where citizens in police states live
Mon Jun 10, 2013, 12:26 PM
Jun 2013

With withdrawal into their own close circle, and not trusting anybody.

colsohlibgal

(5,275 posts)
38. The Prescient George Orwell
Mon Jun 10, 2013, 03:24 PM
Jun 2013

That guy really saw this coming. As did old Ben Franklin from further back with his famous thought - "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety".

I can't remember ever not agreeing with Tom Tomorrow either.

It's all about making us so scared we're willing to surrender our personal rights. I'm troubled by so many saying they're Ok because it has to go through a FISA judge because that's pretty much been a rubber stamp.

Nukes scare me the most, because as long as they are around someone is at some point going to vaporize a city or cities, it's going to happen unless we get serious about getting rid of them no matter how much they want to get all up into our stuff here.




























humbled_opinion

(4,423 posts)
42. Very true indeed....
Mon Jun 10, 2013, 05:20 PM
Jun 2013

THe rightwing has always skipped directly to the acceptance stage but I used to have faith that Democrats would hold it all together but now I have lost faith in everything and become a cynical person that sees no hope in fixing this ever...

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
46. What's sooo great about Tom is he makes this situation hilarious.
Mon Jun 10, 2013, 06:05 PM
Jun 2013

Of course, he should have drawn this back in 2007!!

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
50. How many times did the media tell us we were so scared we let this happen?
Mon Jun 10, 2013, 09:40 PM
Jun 2013

I wasn't scared,...but then,...I'm not a Republican.

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