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cali

(114,904 posts)
Tue Jun 11, 2013, 05:48 AM Jun 2013

From March 2013: Spy agencies to get access to Americans’ finances

The Obama administration will grant spy agencies — the CIA and the NSA — full access to a vast database of financial data belonging to U.S. citizens and individuals who bank in this country, Reuters reported late Wednesday. Up until now only law enforcement agencies have had full access to the database, known as FinCEN (the Treasury’s Financial Crimes Enforcement Network) — spy agencies have to make case-by-case requests for information. Financial institutions the U.S. have to file regular “suspicious activity” reports to FinCen, including “all personal cash transactions exceeding $10,000, as well as suspected incidents of money laundering, loan fraud, computer hacking or counterfeiting.”

The proposal to extend access to FinCen was detailed on a March 4. Treasury document obtained by Reuters. It constitutes a furthering of efforts to centralize the broad monitoring of U.S. citizens on the grounds of counterterror and anti-crime efforts. Reuters noted that privacy advocates have reacted with concern to the proposal, which remains in its early stages:

More than 25,000 financial firms – including banks, securities dealers, casinos, and money and wire transfer agencies – routinely file “suspicious activity reports” to FinCEN. The requirements for filing are so strict that banks often over-report, so they cannot be accused of failing to disclose activity that later proves questionable. This over-reporting raises the possibility that the financial details of ordinary citizens could wind up in the hands of spy agencies.

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http://www.salon.com/2013/03/14/spy_agencies_to_get_access_to_americans_finances/

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From March 2013: Spy agencies to get access to Americans’ finances (Original Post) cali Jun 2013 OP
k&r nt bananas Jun 2013 #1
Spy agencies get access to FBI database. Snore. nt geek tragedy Jun 2013 #2
"...raises the possibility..." Hardly an emergency phrase. randome Jun 2013 #3
Once the FBI and Treasury Dept have the information, the horse is already well out of the barn nt geek tragedy Jun 2013 #4
Why aren't people ProSense Jun 2013 #5
This dates from the Bank Secrecy Act of 1970 FarCenter Jun 2013 #6
 

randome

(34,845 posts)
3. "...raises the possibility..." Hardly an emergency phrase.
Tue Jun 11, 2013, 08:41 AM
Jun 2013

Money laundering laws like this have always been the norm.

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geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
4. Once the FBI and Treasury Dept have the information, the horse is already well out of the barn nt
Tue Jun 11, 2013, 08:43 AM
Jun 2013

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
5. Why aren't people
Tue Jun 11, 2013, 08:46 AM
Jun 2013
Up until now only law enforcement agencies have had full access to the database, known as FinCEN (the Treasury’s Financial Crimes Enforcement Network) — spy agencies have to make case-by-case requests for information.

...outraged about this database? Sounds scary.

The Financial Crimes Enforcement Network (FinCEN) is a bureau of the United States Department of the Treasury that collects and analyzes information about financial transactions in order to combat money laundering, terrorist financiers, and other financial crimes.

As reflected in its name, the Financial Crimes Enforcement Network (FinCEN) is a network, a means of bringing people and information together to fight money laundering. Since its creation in 1990, FinCEN has coordinated the sharing of information with law enforcement agencies and its other partners in the regulatory and financial communities. FinCEN uses cooperation and partnerships in a network approach to combat money laundering domestically and internationally.

FinCEN was established by order of the Secretary of the Treasury (Treasury Order Numbered 105–08) on April 25, 1990. In May 1994, its mission was broadened to include regulatory responsibilities and the Treasury Department's Office of Financial Enforcement (OFE) was merged with FinCEN in October 1994. On September 26, 2002, after Title III of the Patriot Act was passed, Treasury Order 180-01[1] made it an official bureau in the Department of the Treasury.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Financial_Crimes_Enforcement_Network


Bush broke the law. President Obama followed it.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022990450


 

FarCenter

(19,429 posts)
6. This dates from the Bank Secrecy Act of 1970
Tue Jun 11, 2013, 10:20 AM
Jun 2013

It began as a requirement for banks to report large cash transactions.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bank_Secrecy_Act

If you go to your bank and withdraw $10,000 in $100s, they will report the transaction, but they are forbidden to tell you that they reported it.

It is mainly about drug money, since that is a main use of cash -- although political contributions have been known to be large.

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