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I'm I the only one who finds it curious snowden ran to Hong Kong? (Original Post) Faux pas Jun 2013 OP
Just being over dramatic. asjr Jun 2013 #1
Right. Because no one has ever sold state secrets to China or Russia. n/t pnwmom Jun 2013 #14
if his intent was to sell state secrets, why the hell disclose the information cali Jun 2013 #21
Because he's a grandiose narcissist who craves attention? pnwmom Jun 2013 #32
I know, huh? Faux pas Jun 2013 #25
Him or me? Faux pas Jun 2013 #24
more difficult to drone-murder people in a crowded city nt msongs Jun 2013 #2
If they could they would newmember Jun 2013 #7
I understand he had visited Hong Kong in the past Brother Buzz Jun 2013 #3
Hong Kong's the enemy? sibelian Jun 2013 #4
Yeah, I do find it odd. HappyMe Jun 2013 #5
Thank you Faux pas Jun 2013 #16
One might surmise it had to do with extradition treaties KansDem Jun 2013 #6
I just thought for all the places that don't have Faux pas Jun 2013 #18
He donated to Ron Paul. That alone shows that he doesn't think things through. nt onehandle Jun 2013 #8
Good answer. Faux pas Jun 2013 #19
He and his girlfriend visited there, and it likely has happy associations. PDJane Jun 2013 #9
Or he took her there while he was checking it out as a place to land. n/t pnwmom Jun 2013 #15
You mean Ed "I Have Nothing To Hide" Snowden? randome Jun 2013 #10
Damn that is really hanging you up, lol. morningfog Jun 2013 #17
"Hong Kong Eddie" captures the spirit but not the accuracy. randome Jun 2013 #28
it's hilarious, this thing has really got some people pissed off Puzzledtraveller Jun 2013 #31
Bizarre works too. Faux pas Jun 2013 #20
I was thinking more or less the same thing. CBHagman Jun 2013 #11
china has plenty of nukes and are a proud people? Monkie Jun 2013 #30
very fine extradition treaty.... mike_c Jun 2013 #12
I imagine that the Chinese Faux pas Jun 2013 #23
He said... get this... EC Jun 2013 #13
Guess not. I don't think he's Faux pas Jun 2013 #22
Our beloved "US-based" transnationals sell more secrets to the Chinese than this guy ever could. reformist2 Jun 2013 #26
No plenty here are more interested in his personal life bobduca Jun 2013 #27
I also find it "bizarre" that he began talking to Greenwald in January....but... VanillaRhapsody Jun 2013 #29
 

cali

(114,904 posts)
21. if his intent was to sell state secrets, why the hell disclose the information
Wed Jun 12, 2013, 11:09 AM
Jun 2013

he's disclosed? Why not just do it without creating world wide scrutiny?

KansDem

(28,498 posts)
6. One might surmise it had to do with extradition treaties
Tue Jun 11, 2013, 02:49 PM
Jun 2013

From Wikipedia--

Countries with diplomatic relations but no extradition treaty[edit]

The United States maintains diplomatic relations, but does not have extradition treaties with the following countries: Afghanistan, Algeria, Andorra, Angola, Armenia, Bahrain, Bangladesh, Belarus, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Brunei, Burkina Faso, Burma, Burundi, Cambodia, Cameroon, Cape Verde, the Central African Republic, Chad, China, Comoros, Congo (Kinshasa), Congo (Brazzaville), Djibouti, Equatorial Guinea, Eritrea, Ethiopia, Gabon, Guinea, Guinea-Bissau, Indonesia, Ivory Coast, Kazakhstan, Kosovo, Kuwait, Laos, Lebanon, Libya, Macedonia, Madagascar, Maldives, Mali, Marshall Islands, Mauritania, Micronesia, Moldova, Mongolia, Montenegro, Morocco, Mozambique, Namibia, Nepal, Niger, Oman, Qatar, Russia, Rwanda, Samoa, São Tomé & Príncipe, Saudi Arabia, Senegal, Serbia, Somalia, Sudan, Syria, Togo, Tunisia, Uganda, Ukraine, United Arab Emirates, Uzbekistan, Vanuatu, Vatican, Vietnam and Yemen.[citation needed]

The United States is negotiating an extradition treaty with Taiwan.[7][8]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extradition_law_in_the_United_States


However, it appears Hong Kong has an extradition treaty with us, so why go there?

Personally, I would prefer a place like the Maldives:



Ahhh, a peaceful island paradise...at least until global climate change covers it with water...

Faux pas

(14,695 posts)
18. I just thought for all the places that don't have
Wed Jun 12, 2013, 11:06 AM
Jun 2013

extradition treaties with us, it seemed like a really weird choice.

PDJane

(10,103 posts)
9. He and his girlfriend visited there, and it likely has happy associations.
Tue Jun 11, 2013, 02:54 PM
Jun 2013

I don't think he was thinking about extradition or selling secrets, frankly.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
10. You mean Ed "I Have Nothing To Hide" Snowden?
Tue Jun 11, 2013, 02:55 PM
Jun 2013

I think 'bizarre' is a more appropriate word.

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randome

(34,845 posts)
28. "Hong Kong Eddie" captures the spirit but not the accuracy.
Wed Jun 12, 2013, 11:23 AM
Jun 2013

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Puzzledtraveller

(5,937 posts)
31. it's hilarious, this thing has really got some people pissed off
Wed Jun 12, 2013, 12:42 PM
Jun 2013

Why? They feel their idol, er, I mean their president is being besmirched?

Most peoples objection I have seen DU does not single out the president or even place the blame on him, it is the entire culture of secrecy and intrusion that we are fed up with.

CBHagman

(16,989 posts)
11. I was thinking more or less the same thing.
Tue Jun 11, 2013, 03:02 PM
Jun 2013

However, I don't really know enough about the current situation in Hong Kong, or what advantages, if any, it might present to him.

 

Monkie

(1,301 posts)
30. china has plenty of nukes and are a proud people?
Wed Jun 12, 2013, 12:38 PM
Jun 2013

that and the fact that HK is a mayor transit hub with direct flights to around 300 destinations.

mike_c

(36,281 posts)
12. very fine extradition treaty....
Tue Jun 11, 2013, 03:33 PM
Jun 2013

Even if extradited-- a process that is likely to take years in HK-- he can still tie it up with lengthy appeals. Making it difficult to turn him over to the U.S. too quickly for Plan B.

Faux pas

(14,695 posts)
23. I imagine that the Chinese
Wed Jun 12, 2013, 11:17 AM
Jun 2013

already have him in custody and are grilling him on all the 'secrets' he knows.

EC

(12,287 posts)
13. He said... get this...
Tue Jun 11, 2013, 04:09 PM
Jun 2013

that China is more acceptable to free speech...Must not have heard of theTiananmen Square protests.

bobduca

(1,763 posts)
27. No plenty here are more interested in his personal life
Wed Jun 12, 2013, 11:21 AM
Jun 2013

than the revelations, and in my opinion those people's posts really make this place suck.

 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
29. I also find it "bizarre" that he began talking to Greenwald in January....but...
Wed Jun 12, 2013, 12:11 PM
Jun 2013

only worked for Booz Allen three mos...and they JUST fired him...SO it stands to reason that he went to work at Booz Allen after first speaking to Greenwald...


curiouser and curiouser!

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