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Police officers across New Jersey could be saying that to motorists at the scenes of car crashes if new legislation introduced in the state Senate becomes law.
The measure would allow cops without a warrant to thumb through a cell phone to determine if a driver was talking or texting when an accident occurred. It requires officers to have "reasonable grounds" to believe the law was broken.
Supporters say it could be an important tool for cops investigating crashes in a state where distracted driving causes lots of accidents and driving while using hand-held cell phones is illegal.
Opponents say it could touch off a contentious legal debate over whether giving officers such access violates a motorists right to privacy or protections against unreasonable search and seizure.
There were 1,840 handheld cell phone-related crashes in New Jersey in 2011, resulting in 807 injuries and six deaths, according to the state Division of Highway Traffic Safety
http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/2013/06/license_registration_and_cell.html
madville
(7,412 posts)Texting and Internet surfing drivers are probably the deadliest threat on the road today. I see people swerving and running off the road everyday, almost every one of them has a phone in their face.
Logical
(22,457 posts)madville
(7,412 posts)Eating, smoking, makeup, cell phone, reading, etc are all distracted driving and should carry a greater penalty if there is evidence.
A cell phone would happen to be the evidence in this case.
DCKit
(18,541 posts)There are enough bad drivers out there without providing them another distraction and, frankly, I'm sick of hearing about the number of new drivers who are killed within the first year of receiving their license because they were texting.
Dog knows how we all got by with only landlines... what a primitive culture we were fifteen years ago.
One_Life_To_Give
(6,036 posts)Knowing whether or not the phone was sending receiving voice/data at the time of incident is one thing. Accessing an app that reports speed, location etc. While pertinent is an overreach.
DCKit
(18,541 posts)One of the insurance companies even has a dongle you can plug into your car to track your driving habits for risk assessment and rates.
They've got us coming and going.
One_Life_To_Give
(6,036 posts)It could just as easily be ones bookmaking records on an app. What about a mistresses phone number and calling history. Is something on the phone completely unrelated still admissible as evidence against you?
DCKit
(18,541 posts)Does it count David Vitter's diaper changes?
GM cars have GPS built-in. It's called "On-Star" if you've never seen a commercial. All cars now have acceleration/deceleration capture built in.
Even if you're not using the "On-Star" service, I'll bet it's still got tracking information, so don't buy from GM.
Please don't argue with me if you don't know anything about cars.
disidoro01
(302 posts)be easy to get a warrant, A warrantless search is illegal. Could a person be prosecuted if they were not found to be texting or on the phone but found that they had set up a pot buy with a friend via text?
This would allow a police officer to have access to anything on that phone. Bank accounts, email accounts, pictures, any stored data. I feel that given all of the information on phones, this would reach the threshold of unreasonable search and seizure.
DCKit
(18,541 posts)it would make waiting for a warrant useless. Guess we'll all have to memorize our dealer's digits.
Boy-Oh, they've have a hoot interviewing all the old people and business contacts in my address book.
Niceguy1
(2,467 posts)They can get the phone records from the carrier... as is done every day.
No need to gut the 4th admendment
DCKit
(18,541 posts)I don't think so, but I don't text on the cell phone, so I don't know... my fingers are gigantic.
I half agree with you, this one is sticky, and I hate the thought of vague laws. But we've all been on the road with morans who can't drive and chew gum at the same time. Writing texts on the DC beltway is an invitation to a murder conviction.
graham4anything
(11,464 posts)even those not hand held take away from seeing the road.
NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)your contact list, browsing history, map history....
Logical
(22,457 posts)a warrant.